Mini 1380: Tintin Game over!

[drmyshotgun]

VoteCount 4.4

Venmar - 2 (Mehdi2277, PiggyGal15) L-2
Code_X - 1 (Klick) L-3
PiggyGal15 - 2 (Code_X, Venmar) L-2

Not Voting - 1 (Super Dupondt Bros)

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.


Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-11-16 22:15:53)

Mod Notes:

[Code_X]

So Klick - are you going to make a case?

[Klick]

Actually, no. VOTE: Piggy

It's between you and her, she has more votes, and I had a town read on you at one point. Piggy's probably a better choice.

[Mehdi2277]

Bad lynch. Venmar's entire case on her is PoE. Code's reasoning is mentioned once and deals with actions she made earlier on and would have been easy to comment on at the start of the day (his reasoning focusing on her being on both town mislynches). When someone reaches L-1 with pretty lazy reasoning there's a big problem. Beyond that I will not lynch anyone not named ven or code today (ven being preferred). Piggy isn't hammering herself and SDB thinks she's town. A piggy wagon isn't ever going to be a lynch without him flipping his mind (I know mine won't).

[Code_X]

How do you feel about Klick?

[Mehdi2277]

Currently weaker town read then piggy. Wouldn't want to lynch him right now. If it's 3:2:1 I could see him as mafia fine with ven. If it's 3:1:1 don't think he's SK (since I'd expect that to have investigation immunity in a game with a cop) and doubt he's mafia so town there.

[Venmar]

It is my own belief that in a 13 player game, more often than not there's 3 scum if there's a SK. Although usually in this case the town gets a reasonable amount of power in a game where there would only be 9 of them. This town, however seems to just have a Jailkeeper and a Cop, so it's hard to say if it is meeting those standards.

If we are to believe, however, that there's 4 town, 1 scum, and 1 SK, then Piggy is probably town and the scum are Klick and Code.

Point is, I feel safer with lynching Klick because I think he's scum in either of the two situations, but that's not where the vote is so Piggy it is. If Piggy flips town, that means it was the former setup, and tomorrow we will have to lynch Klick or Code. ( 4-1-1 and 3-2-1 ).

[PiggyGal15]

So wait, let me get this straight Ven, you're more confident Klick will turn up scum, so you vote me? I am for sure not understanding your logic, and want to burn you with fire. Your scumminess is hurting my head.

And what do you mean "That's not where the vote is"? Only Code's vote is on me besides you, that's one person. There (was) one person on Code, and 2 of us on you.

Klick, I don't have more votes. Now I have more votes, but they were completely tied when you voted. Mind explaining why you chose me over Ven?

At this point, both Ven and Klick seem like good lynches.

[Klick]

No, I was the only one voting you, and Code had two others voting you.

[PiggyGal15]

Uhhhh... what? Unless that VC on the top of this page is wrong, what you're saying makes no sense.

[Klick]

Oops, mixed up. I was the only one voting Code, and two people were voting you.

Either way, you were wrong in your assumption.

[Mehdi2277]

Klick do you see 0 problem in voting someone that you suspect less because they have more votes in mylo/lylo? Or when the near confirmed town is hard defending piggy and won't vote her. And the other near confirmed town has a town read on her. Good luck lynching piggy with only three votes (mine will

never

go on her today).

[Klick]

I don't suspect her less, I suspect her equally.

However, I do see the point in not voting for someone who can't be lynched.

SDB, do you see yourself possibly voting for Piggy today, given a good case?

[Klick]

@Mod: I'm not giving this game the attention it needs. Me staying in isn't doing myself or the game any good. I also have a week V/LA coming up, which will complicate things more. I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to replace out.

Sorry guys.

[drmyshotgun]

VoteCount 4.5

Venmar - 2 (Mehdi2277, PiggyGal15) L-2
PiggyGal15 - 3 (Code_X, Venmar, Klick) L-1

Not Voting - 1 (Super Dupondt Bros)

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.


Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-11-16 22:15:53)

Mod Notes:
-Klick is getting replaced. Deadline will not run out until I find a replacement.

[Mehdi2277]

Mass Prod please?

I've been a bit busy but game wise I'm the same. That and SDB needs to make clear his position on piggy. I believe it's a town read so anyone voting piggy needs to get off her since there is no way we're lynching her.

[PiggyGal15]

Prodded... I'm trying to think of something more to add, but there really isn't anything. It's not so much that we need Klick's replacement, it's more (at least imo) that we need Super to give his current reads.

[Mehdi2277]

That and considering it's fairly obvious what his reads are (unless they flipped pretty quick) that ven, code, and klick's replacement need to be voting elsewhere. Voting someone that's impossible to lynch is wasting your vote.

[PiggyGal15]

And, not to mention, stalling this game.

[Mehdi2277]

For the person who replaces klick here's a summary of the game before you start reading.

Ratio is most likely 4:1:1 with a maybe 3:2:1 ratio. If it's the second lynching a serial killer today likely leads to a town loss. We've already mass claimed. The only living PR is a jailkeeper which is myself. Considering the set up would be unbalanced if I wasn't a town pr (we've had a cop flip and that's it when it comes to prs so far) I'm near confirmed town (and have been treated like it). I jailkept SDB last night and considering both kills appeared he's near confirmed town. Which leaves piggy, yourself, venmar and code for likely scum. While I think the set up is 4:1:1 for now I'm treating it like 3:2:1 in case it's the worst situation (along with having a strong mafia read on a player). You are currently voting piggy. I will not vote her. SDB has a town read on her. She is extremely unlikely to be lynched today (it'd require sdb to flip reads on her). Vote elsewhere. Venmar's interactions with bit early on I find suspicious. I wrote my reasons more on the vote a page or two ago along with a vote count analysis.

That summarizes game state. Recommend read day 1 and look at bit's interactions with other players (he's the only flipped mafia).

[Code_X]

Unvote

Promise to read Venmar/Klick back.

[drmyshotgun]

VoteCount 4.5

Venmar - 2 (Mehdi2277, PiggyGal15) L-2
PiggyGal15 - 2 (Venmar, Klick) L-2

Not Voting - 1 (Super Dupondt Bros, Code_X)

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.


Deadline is in: (expired on 2012-11-16 22:15:53)

Mod Notes:
-Klick has been replaced.

[drmyshotgun]

Klick has been replaced. Please welcome Benbarksley to the game!

[Venmar]

Not really much to say, just don't lynch me and the towns odds will increase.

[Mehdi2277]

Still voting piggy is a pretty important thing to mention. Either magically make sdb flip reads or vote someone who has a chance of being lynched.