NY 142: Rolling in the Deep, WAIT WAT? PARTY OVER?!


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Post Post #1825 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:18 pm

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In post 1824, Pine wrote:Results of poll (current up to 1823):
Slandaar-3.5*
Revenus-3
Vijay-2
Shattered Viewpoint-2
Hiraki-2
theamateur-1
Soda/Replacement-1
Funkybike-1
Zdenek-1
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ThAd-1
Pops-1
ScreamingHawk-1
Pine-.5*

*.5 from Hiraki's dichotomy of Slandaar/Pine

Fixed.

Input from everyone would be appreciated. Considering that most people seem to agree that this poll is an idea that doesn't outright suck, boycotting it only prevents your opinions from being heard.
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Post Post #1826 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:18 pm

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What's the point of this poll?
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Post Post #1827 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:23 pm

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As has already been stated, the point is to get a feel for who the group at large is willing to consider, and thus narrow down our topics of discussion as deadline looms. For example, the initial results indicate that despite some fanatic minority opinions, there are likely only 5-6 candidates that 12 of us could agree upon by deadline. It will help us focus our objectives by determining what is a good topic to shelve until Day Two and what we ought to be pressing. Normally, simply voting would accomplish this, but I don't think a wagon has built over four or five all game, so we have to sift through peoples' secondary and tertiary suspects for an acceptable compromise. A compromise lynch is far preferable to a no lynch, as a flip of any sort will give us solid information to work with.
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Post Post #1828 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:26 pm

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Ok, I've seen this suggested once before, interesting enough we lynched scum, what's more interesting was it was his scum buddy who suggested it. lol
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Post Post #1829 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:28 pm

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A more specific example is this - at no point do I recall ever having voted for Vijay. And yet, he is my third choice for a lynch. In a game this size, with a scumteam likely numbering five or six, third picks are quite reasonable. However, we tend not to push hard on anyone but our top one or two. So a poll gives a more in-depth survey of where common ground can be found. I didn't realize so many really thought Hiraki a viable lynch, for example (add one to his tally, I missed Theam's statement in 1814 last count), and I thought the group supported a SV lynch more.

PE: I've never seen this done before, because I've never been in a game quite like this one. Why don't you give us your list?
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Post Post #1830 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:31 pm

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Slandaar
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Vijay/hiraki
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Post Post #1831 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:27 pm

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toxic8e8op replaces SodaSpirit17.

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Post Post #1832 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:31 pm

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In post 1821, ThAdmiral wrote:

@ mod: any chance of an extension. There's still a lot of activity and we're just getting round to selection of lynch target now. I think even just a few more days would help.


I would not consider granting a deadline extension solely on these grounds, as I believe that it would be unfair to any anti-town players.

However, depending on when a replacement for sword_of_omens is found, the deadline may be modified in order to accommodate the player replacing in.
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Post Post #1833 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:42 pm

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hihi \o

im gonna(try to) burn through our thread tonight to try and get generally caught up. ive never before played as large a match; ill try to post how i feel on everyone every 15-20 pages.
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Post Post #1834 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:51 pm

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P.S., pine, your idea for a poll gives me an off feeling. cant put my finger on why, but meh w/e.
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Post Post #1835 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:00 pm

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it helps scum narrow down who town is thinking of lynching; the "poll" helps scum direct shots more than it helps town direct lynches
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Post Post #1836 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:15 pm

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It has generated positive discussion, forced some people to commit to reads, has directed the Town's focus, drawn out some of the quieter players, and has significantly reduced the inanities of the current trend of idiots whining. I suppose some of the focusing benefits that Town is experiencing would also apply to scum, but I'm really not thinking in that vein. All I see is the deadline looming a few days away and the Town still wallowing in wagons a third of the size necessary. The net gain is noticeably pro-Town.
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Post Post #1837 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:04 pm

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I'm fine with lynching anyone but me. Add 1 point to everyone in the game for that poll.
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Post Post #1838 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:05 pm

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Hey folks, I'm back. May take me a couple of days to get caught up on this beast, though.

Thanks again to Faraday for filling in.
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Post Post #1839 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:06 pm

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thad wrote:Can you explain why you have a strong scum read on [sodaspirit]?


It's not a
strong
read. His ISO is just scummy.

He does very little in the way of giving reads. He just hops onto popular wagons and goes back to lurking. The only thing that makes me hesitant to outright call him scum is that he just doesn't have enough posts to make a proper judgment and I can
maybe
see it from the perspective he's town.

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Anyway, I lost interest in how this day turns out a long time ago. I just want it to end in a flip ASAP.
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Post Post #1840 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:45 pm

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In post 1839, ZeL1nK wrote:
Anyway, I lost interest in how this day turns out a long time ago. I just want it to end in a flip ASAP.

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Post Post #1841 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:50 pm

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In post 1840, vijay2vasandani wrote:
In post 1839, ZeL1nK wrote:
Anyway, I lost interest in how this day turns out a long time ago. I just want it to end in a flip ASAP.

+1
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Post Post #1842 (ISO) » Sun Oct 30, 2011 11:29 pm

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In post 1770, Beck wrote:
if SV is so scummy, why has he not voted him at all? or even an FOS or something?

This is the problem huh? why didn't you take issue with pops for doing the same thing?

Becks scum, its ridiculous, he wont get lynched but he is.

Pops/Beck/ThAd/Pine

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Post Post #1843 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:09 am

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So you're not ok with an sv lynch again?
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Post Post #1844 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:18 am

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In post 1842, Slandaar wrote:
In post 1770, Beck wrote:
if SV is so scummy, why has he not voted him at all? or even an FOS or something?

This is the problem huh? why didn't you take issue with pops for doing the same thing?

Becks scum, its ridiculous, he wont get lynched but he is.

Pops/Beck/ThAd/Pine

they are the only good lynches today.

Nice deflection. Instead of throwing random names around, why not defend your actions?

Why did I not accuse pops? Maybe because I haven't really noticed pops as much as other players. I will re-read his iso to see if he is doing the same thing.
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Post Post #1845 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:23 am

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Who is pops saying we should lynch but isn't voting? I want to see if u are telling the truth
2nd question, if pops is doing it, why have you ignored it?
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Post Post #1846 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:33 am

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In post 1843, ThAdmiral wrote:So you're not ok with an sv lynch again?

This again?

there are about 8-9 people who are ok to lynch, that does not make them good lynches.
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Post Post #1847 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:35 am

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In post 1844, Beck wrote:
Nice deflection. Instead of throwing random names around, why not defend your actions?

Why did I not accuse pops? Maybe because I haven't really noticed pops as much as other players. I will re-read his iso to see if he is doing the same thing.

I did, you don't read my posts though.

Im not reading yours anymore, you clearly don't read mine.
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Post Post #1848 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:37 am

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In post 1845, Beck wrote:
2nd question, if pops is doing it, why have you ignored it?


Becks scum

WHO AM I VOTING???

RIGHT NOW???

Beck = scum, guaranteed.
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Post Post #1849 (ISO) » Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:38 am

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In post 1846, Slandaar wrote:
In post 1843, ThAdmiral wrote:So you're not ok with an sv lynch again?

This again?

there are about 8-9 people who are ok to lynch, that does not make them good lynches.

Who are the 8-9 peoole that are ok to lynch, than indicate which people are good lynches and why
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