STEVEN UNIVERSE 2 - GAME OVER

[Skybird]

It could be Skybird's double vote.

I'm reading through and not caught up yet, but did want to explain my limitations on the double vote. I can only vote for the same person twice. Since my vote is currently on NC, the blank vote on Snarky is not mine. If I try to vote two different people, only the second vote will count. To have the second vote count, I would have to vote the second person again.

[Firebringer]

"Terrible Justifications for Forced Reads, Insults at townreads, answering for others, self-meta"
All of that is standard town creature awkwardness/quirkiness

Haven't you only played one game with him?

I think I've played 2
So? Point is ive seen enough to know this is a superficial scum read

Superficial scumread? I went through and highlighted how every single post of his did NOTHING for town until he temporarily voted Cakey and it's a superficial read?

I think what she is trying to say was that you were scumreading him based of his playstyle, not by his motivations to undermine the town. You know not everyone acts to do stuff for town.

[Firebringer]

I think what she is trying to say was that you were scumreading him based of his playstyle, not by motivations to undermine the town. You know not everyone acts to do stuff for town.

Fixed

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

"Terrible Justifications for Forced Reads, Insults at townreads, answering for others, self-meta"
All of that is standard town creature awkwardness/quirkiness

Haven't you only played one game with him?

I think I've played 2
So? Point is ive seen enough to know this is a superficial scum read

Superficial scumread? I went through and highlighted how every single post of his did NOTHING for town until he temporarily voted Cakey and it's a superficial read?

I think what she is trying to say was that you were scumreading him based of his playstyle, not by his motivations to undermine the town. You know not everyone acts to do stuff for town.

Yeah, and if they aren't doing stuff for town, they are scum unless proven otherwise. There's wrong but trying, and then there's doing nothing for town. Creature is the later.

[Firebringer]

Yeah, and if they aren't doing stuff for town, they are scum unless proven otherwise. There's wrong but trying, and then there's doing nothing for town. Creature is the later.

Isn't it more appropriate to say if they aren't doing anything that they aren't town till proven town? Not that they are scum?

I mean theres a huge different between actively trying to achieve scum goals, and completely not doing anything. Not saying your wrong, of course I could be wrong its not a super strong read. I also don't understand why your read on that is so strong. Nor why Kraska is.

Its more "leaning' town for me.

Like the case you made looked more a case for him to be Null than scum.

[farside22]

Not like ull listen to me anyway so wtv

I read it.

I have creature as a town lean.
The only Questionable on the rr wagon to me is dgb.

get out of my mind.

Stay away from the light
It burns!!!!

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Yeah, and if they aren't doing stuff for town, they are scum unless proven otherwise. There's wrong but trying, and then there's doing nothing for town. Creature is the later.

Isn't it more appropriate to say if they aren't doing anything that they aren't town till proven town? Not that they are scum?

I mean theres a huge different between actively trying to achieve scum goals, and completely not doing anything. Not saying your wrong, of course I could be wrong its not a super strong read. I also don't understand why your read on that is so strong. Nor why Kraska is.

Its more "leaning' town for me.

Like the case you made looked more a case for him to be Null than scum.

Not doing anything is a scum goal. Getting chainsawed by scum is a scum suggestion (not tell).

The absence of town, is scum indicative.

That's the closest thing anyone has said about RR at all anyway.

Then there's NC that blatantly contradicts themselves.
Cakey who does nothing and chainsaws me on behalf of NC.

But yet, you want to lynch RR... for reasons not even stated.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Oh and for the record, I HATE fucking nullreads with a passion.

[Firebringer]

Okay, wouldn't you really just say he is a scum lean not outright the same level as someone like Klingoncelt who is obviously faking reads?

[Firebringer]

Like I am willing to go on a Klingoncelt lynch right now with you Titus.
To "compromise" here.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

I'm down with that. You vote first.

Klingon isn't faking reads, because she hasn't stated any. (Which is still pretty much a scumclaim from Klingon.)

[Firebringer]

Klingon isn't faking reads, because she hasn't stated any. (Which is still pretty much a scumclaim from Klingon.)

Kling has stated reads though.....


VOTE: Klingoncelt

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

VOTE: Klingoncelt

[Firebringer]

Spoiler: Klingoncelt Reads

Anyone supports a scum!grapes?

I do.

OK, Yume is widely town read. WHY? Is it bc Mastina said so and people are assuming that's got to be based on INFO rather than a normal read? Or is it bc Yume confirmed Mastina as Town?? And if the latter, what would YOU have done were you scum and got invited to a hood where it says "X is Town"?? Would you have even thought of keeping it to yourself, IF YOU WERE SCUM?

Maybe my mind is skewed, but I'm thinking in reverse. I'd keep it to myself for the time being as TOWN and see how people are treating the one I know to be conf!Town. I'd go out and air it as SCUM for Town!Cred and -maybe- as a means to pass some message to my peers.

But to each their own, and I'm inclined to treat this one issue as NAI, which brings me back to the original question: WHY has Yume become semi-confirmed after Mastina put her at the top of her reads??

Unless the Mod says so, no one is "c" to any degree.

"Obv", on the other hand, is acceptable.

Anyway, most of us were Townreading Mastin. Obv.

Mastin has an above-average accuracy at reading other players.

She puts Yume at the top of her Town list.

Yume is therefore ObvTown.

So far my scummish pile is foxbird/shiro/klingon. They all feel like they're coasting and I haven't seen much from them that gives me any reason to think that they're trying solve the game at all.

Klingon is the worst because she's made the most posts and they've all been noise outside of a few bad questions and a forced SR on fire which doesn't feel like something she believes in.

VOTE: Grapes

Your white-knighting for Firebringer is noted.

And he is a Scumread.

Hey, Townies, my vote on Grapes is sheep-worthy.

Like here she makes a few reads.
Didn't go through her whole ISO, it was pretty empty of anything.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Saying conftown is conftown is not a read.

Supoorting a scumgrapes =/= having grapes as a scumread. Maybe there's a read in the last post. I got lost in pronouns.

But yeah, there's a dearth of information. We agree on the important things regarding Klingon, namely that they are avoiding the central conflicts.

Still want that neighborhood?

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Beeboy hasn't been here all day... so?

[Firebringer]

Saying conftown is conftown is not a read.

Supoorting a scumgrapes =/= having grapes as a scumread. Maybe there's a read in the last post. I got lost in pronouns.

But yeah, there's a dearth of information. We agree on the important things regarding Klingon, namely that they are avoiding the central conflicts.

Still want that neighborhood?

Okay......
So none of her reads are real. You said she didn't have a read. I think thats a bit different.......................

Are you just disagreeing to disagree?

And no, I don't want to neighbor with you anymore.

[SirCakez]

Catchin' up now

[Creature]

Anyone else thought about a "policy lynch"?

[farside22]

Anyone else thought about a "policy lynch"?

Xkfyu would be down for in a heartbrat.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

@Fire, Fine by me.

@McMenno, you down to align still?

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Saying conftown is conftown is not a read.

Supoorting a scumgrapes =/= having grapes as a scumread. Maybe there's a read in the last post. I got lost in pronouns.

But yeah, there's a dearth of information. We agree on the important things regarding Klingon, namely that they are avoiding the central conflicts.

Still want that neighborhood?

Okay......
So none of her reads are real. You said she didn't have a read. I think thats a bit different.......................

Are you just disagreeing to disagree?

And no, I don't want to neighbor with you anymore.

It's not. Like I said, we agree on the important things on Klingon.

[SirCakez]

Sir Cakez, can you explain your town read on NC? Or point me to the post where you explained it? What do you think about NC outing Grapes' role?

p-edit: I'll be back this evening.

I have been over this more then once, please read my ISO. Currently I'm townreading her because her reaction to being pushed looked town and Titus is pushing her, and I know Titus doesn't like bussing

Well, I was gonna try and remain calm, but 1582 triggers me, given how many times I was frustrated at being mislynched and wasn't town read for it, yet he gets a pass due to that very same frustration?

I don't understand how this applies to me? I think you're town.

I asked him what his reads were and he threw a bunch of naked ones at me.
I told him I'd look into his obi push, realized his iso was a labryth and asked him to summarize why he they were scum in a few sentences.
He drops an entire case in there with bulletpoints.

And at that point. Between all the "can't wait to talk tonight" and "ill be around for a while" stuff.

It just wasn't a good vibe.

Asked him if he'd be willing to claim. He was townreading me but it was hard to get a sense of how strong.
Said he doesn't trust me. That's fine.

But of the questions I asked. My questions about obi seemed to illicit the most reaction. Which makes sense being his top scumread.
Titus towned up a fuck of a lot from day start and that was one of the things I noticed so figured I'd ask about it.
And I remember not resonating with his push at all. Like the things he was bringing up felt more like small forgivable slight inconsistancies that I'd make pushes for as scum. Particularly people like titus who isn't always easy to understand anyway.

My judgment call was. Yes, this push is omgus and malicious and not genuine. At that point I disengaged from the hood and put full focus in the thread on pushing my scumreads.

Later he says "you know for someone who claims to sort in hoods you sure aren't sorting me"

This is posturing.

Later finally he brings up that he didn't gain any alliance bonuses and asked me if it could have anything to do with me.

Before I can respond, he votes me in thread for concluding that my role is more likely to be a scum role.

So where from day start until then did the realization happen that he didn't get alliance bonuses because of me?

When it was the most convenient for him.

Ok having read through this and NC's view of it, to me it just sounds like you two both developed scumreads on each other at around the same time and are now both being biased about what happened in the hood. Both of your claims of the events in the hood are the same, just with different spins on it.
I think it's highly likely this is a T v T.

@SirCakez - I'm sorry, I meant unassailable with anything true. Kinda figured that was evident.

<.<
I'm going to drop this because it's going nowhere.

Me allying with Grapes is a stupid idea.
Almost50 can confirm this.

Reminder:

Please do NOT refer to anything we talk about in the hood in public unless it's ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
"Me allying with Grapes is a stupid idea." would have sufficed in this case.

I was trying to make sure grapes didn't think I was just full of shit and making something up.

Scum are bussing.

Except for Titus, yeah it looks like it.

I am at NC Creature Cakez klingon CoolDog X, add DGB/Fire if wrong?

You telling me I put 2 (and a half) scum in my event?? Am I THAT bad??

No, Titus's reads are from scum and bad.

how about...

I ally with mastin? and then we'll see what happens

do we have a deal here ladies and gents

on the condition that I am not lynched, of course

Why would you even ask this unless you have a really good reason to ally with conftown?

Why is Mcmenno being Wagoned?

RTFT, this should be incredibly obvious

Got about 4 pages left

[SirCakez]

Cakey who does nothing and chainsaws me on behalf of NC.

More and more misrep

I'm developing some new scumreads, but I wanna talk them over in the alliance PTs first.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Cakey who does nothing and chainsaws me on behalf of NC.

More and more misrep

I'm developing some new scumreads, but I wanna talk them over in the alliance PTs first.

For shits and giggles, try answering as if I'm town for a change, because you'll have to soon enough.