Wizards at the Sorcerers' Den - Endgame

[Bunnylover]

The removal of Katy is 100% done by my ability. As in the mod said so.
As least we do realize that their is another player with the ability of redirection (other then me).

[SpyreX]

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Wait, your action worked both nights AND was redirected both nights?

[Baby Spice]

Yes, both nights, and though I wont say why, I know why the mass RB wouldn't have worked on me.

[SpyreX]

This game makes my head hurt.

So, you're immune to the RB BUT get redirected?

The hell.

[gandalf5166]

Icey, what did you roleblock or was it general?

Because gandalf and now Bunny claim not to have been RB'ed.

Unvote

CHRIST

I WAS ROLEBLOCKED

I JUST FORGOT ABOUT IT

And it was yesterday, not last night, so bunny's claim doesn't conflict either.

[Baby Spice]

I wouldn't say that SpyreX, but I was immune to Icey's RB.

[SGRaaize]

Alright, gonna start working on my reads now... This is gonna be hella boring

[SGRaaize]

All these reads are subjected to change at any time:

Gandalf is obvious town, when reading him, he comes across to me as someone that believes every single thing he types and that has intentions of finding scum, his vote on Pine was the most justified of the bunch, myself included.

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Chesskid3 is a weirdo, regardless, he also comes across to me as someone that believes in what he types, as well as someone that is trying to catch scum, same applies to AGOG, his mason claims chains him with Mana_Ku, more on that later.

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Riceballtrail is confirmed town aside from bullshit conversion

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Bunnylover had a lack of commitment on his vote on Pine, as if he knew Pine was gonna flip Town and wanted him dead, but not to be too related to the BW; concentrated on bullshit votes on mod; voted obvious town CMAR; commented on the fact we hammered on RBT without letting him claim after it happened but didn't stop us from doing it; says he's scared when almost confirmed town via mason claim grabs a dagger; is the one to give us heads up about the mass redirection on the previous night; claimed inventor, but doesn't explain too much about his role; acted agressive towards almost-confirmed mason thinking he should be lynched; flips between ">:|" and "<.<" very easily; subconsciously tries to make us suspect as many people as possible (as evidenced in his post #1905, on his second quote).

As you can probably tell, I'm more than fine with lynching Bunnylover

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Iceycupcake is probably Town or Third Party that doesn't affect us, if this is a scum gambit, I've been completely outplayed, but it doesn't read like one to me.

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Dry-Fit was scummy as fuck, literally every post he made was a nice attempt at jumping at someone's throat and getting him lynched, I saw no town intentions behind his posts, only attempts at lynching whoever he wanted to. Vaya comes in and doesn't do much to change my perceptions of this slot, although, to be fair, he is gonna have to read through this thread to make proper analyses, and i do sympathize with him in that its a big bother to do so.

Tomorrow, he's fair game.

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WrathChild is obvious town, dumb-town at times but very analytical and sharp at other times. If I didn't know better, I'd say this is a hydra account.

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PeregrineV is pretty fucking scummy, hasn't said much, has been lurking quite a bit, suspected CMAR, who always was obvious town, on one hand, I get the slight feeling that, much like Dry-Fit, he's trying to just jump at whoever for a lynch, however, I also have the weird read that I think he's playing this game for himself. If it wasn't for the fact he self-healed this last night, as he claimed, I would believe he is the Serial Killer.

I'm more than fine with lynching him today.

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BabySpice is an interesting character, I can't quite put my finger on it, but I get the feeling he's scum, looking through his posts, though, I can tell he is indeed trying to scumhunt and that he believes in what he says, and I also think he has townie intentions behind what he says. I don't know what I'm saying in here exactly, but my gut says he's Scum, my brain tells me he isn't. I'll trust my brain more, but my gut will keep my eye on him.

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I had a flip-flopping read on LynchMePls, constantly changing between Town and Scum, every single read I had on him was changed by the fact he replaced out because of getting pissed at the mod for this setup, Surye isn't fair game today, much like Vaya. If we ever get to the point where every scum-read dies and I have to start picking between my previous town reads, this is where I'll start. POE is awesome.

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I can see why everyone suspects Zdenek, I really can, I know exactly what is going through each people mind, he sounds very non-commited to his votes and suspicions, and he is lurking a lot at this point, but there are a few posts made by him that I feel are particularly townie, and I really think he has townie intentions behind him and is trying to scumhunt. I might be completely wrong here, and if so, sorry, but I think he's town, even if he has some actions that I would normally consider scummy. The main thing that makes me think he's Townie is the fact that in the middle of the Beefster-Amrun warzone, he voted Amrun and gave legitimate reasons for it. And I just don't think Mafia would vote Amrun in that situation, Beefster was a far easier target. He even commented on this himself, which made me think he's town even more, WIFOM, I know.

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Mana_Ku was fucking scummy, I always said this, and I will always say this, the only reason why I think he is and was town was because of Chesskid3 saying they are Mason partners, if it wasn't for that, I would have tried to get him lynched ages ago. His tunneling on me was unbearable and it was the second most bullshit reasoning towards me, the first being LMP's and the third being Pine's.

SpyreX is fine, although he is also a bit of a weirdo. I like weirdos, but not in this stage of the game where literally no scum died.

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Regarding Inhim, he's a weirdo, I just played a game with him in the Marathon board, and he's playing pretty much here as he played there, except he's obviously talking a lot less here, honestly can't read him, but I don't like how he's voting Gandalf.

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Feysal is town, he reads as someone that is scumhunting. I remember someone said he was obviously scum because he always lurks as Mafia, so I got my eyes on him, still think he's town, though.



The lynches I'm fine with for today, in order of priority:
-> Bunnylover
-> PeregrineV

Unvote

Vote: Bunnylover

[Vaya]

Think I'm having a change of heart about SGR being town. His last post doesn't leave a good impression on me, voting Bunnylover is especially bad.

Unvote

VOTE: SGRaaize

(FTR, I had already read through the thread last night, like I said I would.)

[SGRaaize]

Interesting, gut-read or something more specific?

[Vaya]

Your last post in general doesn't really impress me or give me any feeling of you being town, you can just call that gut.

Bunnylover seems pretty obviously town, scum wouldn't be so forward about causing the mass redirect, even if for the purpose of looking town. It would be much more to the scum's benefit to keep quiet about it and cause confusion of night actions, investigations, etc. I don't believe town would see this behavior (you even note claiming the redirect specifically) and really believe she were scum for it. I think you are scum who just sees bunny as mislynch bait.

Also, lesser point, but why the change in attitude between when you last voted me, and saying I should be given a day to catch up?

[SGRaaize]

Your last post in general doesn't really impress me or give me any feeling of you being town, you can just call that gut.

Fair enough, I am pretty scummy and unpredictable, in fact, you can check that just by ISO'ing me this game and seeing my constant change of personalities.

Bunnylover seems pretty obviously town

Nope

scum wouldn't be so forward about causing the mass redirect, even if for the purpose of looking town. It would be much more to the scum's benefit to keep quiet about it and cause confusion of night actions, investigations, etc. I don't believe town would see this behavior (you even note claiming the redirect specifically) and really believe she were scum for it.

Hmmmmmmm, I love me this post, its WIFOM-a-licious.

I think you are scum who just sees bunny as mislynch bait.

Ok

Also, lesser point, but why the change in attitude between when you last voted me, and saying I should be given a day to catch up

I changed my mind *shrug*, I don't feel like lynching you today anymore

[GreyICE]

Continue to not understand the SGR wagon.

[SGRaaize]

Thanks for making this game, Juls, you making another?

[SGRaaize]

Thanks for making this game, Juls, you making another?

^
Ignore

[SpyreX]

I can't even get Faraday and Chess involved here.

This is ridiculous.

PICK A DIRECTION, GO GO.

[SGRaaize]

Vote: Bunnylover

Vote: Bunnylover

Vote: Bunnylover[/b

[Zdenek]

Then there is Surye and the Amished tell, which really sticks out like a sore thumb.

You are referring to this, I guess?

I know that's asking a lot, but I am trying to get to the point of a productive player in this slot

For me it is scummy because LMP was fairly productive, and I think Suyre was just blathering, but I don't see why it should be a standard tell.

I'm hunting someone. I wont say who, beacaue I don't want to warn them, but given fluff, I believe the person I'm hunting is anti-town.

What do you mean by, "given fluff . . ."

Bunnylover seems pretty obviously town, scum wouldn't be so forward about causing the mass redirect, even if for the purpose of looking town. It would be much more to the scum's benefit to keep quiet about it and cause confusion of night actions, investigations, etc. I don't believe town would see this behavior (you even note claiming the redirect specifically) and really believe she were scum for it. I think you are scum who just sees bunny as mislynch bait.

Scum would happily claim to have caused the redirect so that people would think they were town - the benefit of doing that is a lot greater than causing day two confusion about actions, especially when no one is claiming an investigation result.

Unvote
Vote: Vaya

There's been little from the slot on the whole, and from Vaya we have this convenient change of heart based on a gut read from a single post:

No idea why the masons are voting SGR. The guy seems pretty town to me, there are better targets than him right now.

Think I'm having a change of heart about SGR being town. His last post doesn't leave a good impression on me, voting Bunnylover is especially bad.

[SGRaaize]

All these reads are subjected to change at any time

Two 180 shifts in one day

[inHimshallibe]

lol at anyone who continues to vote SGR after all that jazz.



I've been worthless past D1, an unsettling habit that I need to work on...

unvote
vote: IceyCupcake

[SGRaaize]

You have a knack for voting obvious non-threats, don't you, Inhim?

[WrathChild]

OK, returning to my lynch list:
-BabySpice
-Surye
-Zdenek
-inHimshallibe
-SGRaaize
-Feysal

[WrathChild]

Feysal, not undead (At least how I would catagorise undead) but not alive either.

I'm hunting someone. I wont say who, beacaue I don't want to warn them, but given fluff, I believe the person I'm hunting is anti-town.
I can investigate to find that person.

N1, my investigation got redirected to Mana-Ku. This was specified in the result. (I tried to target Beefster)
N2 my investigation was redirected to Katy. This again was specified in the result. (I tried to target SGR)
Twilight1 and T2 investigations went though on the targets I tried for. This again was specified. (Neither Feysal nor Inhim were the person I am looking for. imo this has no bearing on their roles/alignments)


N2 we got mass redirected again. (Sorry Icey, it turns out that I'm immune to your roleblock, hence my questions
Plus side though, Icey goes into the town pile.)


Which makes me think that Katy wore two night actions that were directed at other people. An insta kill and the removal.


Why do this? Must admit to spending a bit of time thinking about. I think the sorcerors need to know that the redirect happened. (Besides, if they keep dieing like this, I'm worried the game will end before I find my target)

I also like how this UN-Varifies Gaggle's Confirmedness.

[WrathChild]

Baby Spice feels like she's setting up a fake-claim here.

[inHimshallibe]

You have a knack for voting obvious non-threats, don't you, Inhim?

:roll:

Just helping out the Icey one.

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