Mafia 85 - Murder at the Bus Stop (game over)

[BlakAdder]

Anybody?

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Official Votecount:
RestFermata (1): BlakAdder

Not voting (5): ThAdmiral, Zazier, RestFermata, Riceballtail, Surye

With 6 alive it's 4 to lynch.

[ThAdmiral]

sorry, I know I am neglecting this game, but I will post tomorrow.

[Riceballtail]

I've been doing some analysis, and it's taking a while. Hopefully I'll be done by the weekend.

[ThAdmiral]

by the way we should probably all claim now

[Riceballtail]

Still working at it, and when I post it, I'll try to give a tl;dr. Don't think I'll be able to though.

[BlakAdder]

So is everyone back?

[ThAdmiral]

I am.

[Riceballtail]

I left?

[Lawrencelot]

Iamausername replaces RestFermata.

Zazier didn't respond to the prod and will be replaced. When I found a replacement for him/her I will set a deadline.

[iamausername]

Hi all, read up to the end of D1 so far. At this point, I'd put Surye and BlakAdder as my top two suspects, and I see they're both still alive. That's interesting.

I'll keep you posted.

[Riceballtail]

Welcome, enjoy your read.

[iamausername]

End of day 2. I <3 springlullaby & Muerrto, and seriously, how is Surye not dead? Also, gut feeling that Xtoxm and Wall-E are town. armlx has good points on Cream, interested to see where that goes. BlakAdder did nothing all day then hopped on the k7 wagon late, so he's still high up on the scum list. al4xz is now picking up on my scumdar too.

I'm looking at the rest of the list of still alive players, and don't remember Azuma or Dynamo/ace doing anything whatsoever, hoping that changes when they get replaced.

[iamausername]

End of day 3.

Interesting day. Xtoxm had reasonable points on kuribo (besides the "admitted he knows I'm town" bit, which was a stretch), and the insta-wagon that formed on him was so damn scummy. So not surprised to see Surye and BlakAdder on it.

Wall-E hallucinating a claim from k7 is hilarious. I'm still not seeing him as scum, though I certainly understand people did after that bit of WTF. and obvscum al4xz defending him makes me wonder.

I have considerably more understanding of how Surye hasn't been lynched now I know about armlx's claim, which I'm assuming is true. Unlike al4xz's - I'm hoping to see a speedlynch on him D4.

armlx, springlullaby, Xtoxm, Muerrto are reading as town. al4xz, kuribo, BlakAdder are scummy. Surye is too, but was investigated innocent. Getting weak scum read from Jebus and Riceball too. Everyone else is nuetral.

[iamausername]

Unlike al4xz's - I'm hoping to see a speedlynch on him D4.

...or someone could kill him before you got the chance, that works too.

Day 4. Is every day required to start with an Xtoxm speed-wagon? With BlakAdder and Surye on it?

Wall-E lynch was pretty inevitable, and I probably would have gne along with it despite my gut read. I know how weird Wall-E is, and still had huge difficulty buying the part where he forgot who he protected. And then when he did claim his protections, they seemed to be deliberately designed to be the poorest choices possible.

[iamausername]

Day 5.

Not much to say. armlx got a guilty on farside, she got lynched. And being SK, she didn't have any partners to give themselves up by trying to push a "maybe she got bus driven" or anything.

Had an innocent on Surye that

was actually an innocent on Muerrto

due to a bus drive by SL.

Wow, how did I miss that. Once again, I'm perplexed by Surye's continued survival.

[iamausername]

So, I just saw this post in MD:

I think it would be a good thing if mafia games were less anticlimactic, with more deaths and revelations at the end instead of a half-hearted discussion between the replacements for the replacements for the replacements for the game's least controversial players.

and then I read Day 6. Ha!

Seriously, 3/10 people even bothering to vote before deadline? That is horrendous.

So, anyway, I'm all caught up now, so I guess I need to put together an actual case on Surye/BlakAdder. It does bother me that my main suspects are the only players left who have ever really done anything in the game, though. Also wondering how the hell we still have THREE kills at night.

On that note, vote:RestFermata, just to get the game moving again.

Why would you do this when we're probably in Lylo?

by the way we should probably all claim now

This too. Anyone have any kind of opinion about an order, or should we just go whenever?

[Riceballtail]

Meh, here's part one of my analysis:

I decided to take a look at the assorted NKs we've had and what they could mean, to try and figure out who we still have running around at night.

NK Listing:

Shot in Head (Mafia):
Moratorium (N1)
Sensfan (N6)

The fact that there are only two kills actually does bother me. They may also be related to the kills with "many bullets" in the house though.

Stabbed (Knives/Daggers SK):
Sir T (N1)
al4xz (N3)
Xtoxm (N4)
Kuribo (N5)
armlx (N6)

N6 that clearly makes this an SK, as no protown player would have killed a cop.

Sworded (Farside/SK):
Empking (N2)
Alabaska J (N3)

Claims the Xtoxm kill N4, but it sounds more like a dagger/knife than a sword, based on the other two kills.

Many Bullets (Vig/SK?):
Shanba (N2)
Muerrto (N3)
Kuribo (N5)
Netlava (N6)

I'm not really sure if this is a vig or SK, but I'm leaning SK. The idea of many bullets seems to be related to the fact that we've got either a shotgun, rifle, or SMG.

Unknown killer: Springlullaby (N4) (Mafia or Many Bullets)


We only know that Daggers and Many Bullets are still alive, and most likely, there's still a mafia or two left. High likelihood of a GF. I would believe that acting in LyLo form would be a good move, because we should assume two mafia and two SKs.

Part two is analyzing vote counts... which I think would be beneficial at this point in the game. It's what's taking so long to color/analyze. :\

[Surye]

N6 that clearly makes this an SK, as no protown player would have killed a cop.

Remember all the bus drivers running around? armlx may not have been the target, and we're bound to have a vig I think.

I await iamausername's case against me, as he's not said a single thing I can address.

Working on my review, been a real busy couple of weeks.

[Lawrencelot]

tubby216 replaces Zazier.

Deadline: 1 week from now (January 21).

If the people who just replaced in need more time to catch up, tell me, and I will extend the deadline to a maximum of 48 hours extra.

[tubby216]

ok i read most of this today at work, i will be completing my notes and get back to you then eta tomorrow

[iamausername]

OK, we've got a deadline now, can we hurry up and massclaim already?

I promise a Surye case within the next 24 hours. And, again, if BA would like to explain why he made a vote "just to get the game moving again" when we're very likely in LYLO, that'd be lovely.

[tubby216]

why is is so important to massclaim?

[iamausername]

The reason you don't massclaim immediately is because you don't want the scum to know who the power roles are so they can take them out before they get to use their powers. At this point, they've already had six nights to use their powers.

We'll gain a lot more from knowing what they did in those nights, and just knowing who is what, than we'll lose by letting the scum know who has power, since there is absolutely zero chance of this game having more than one more night. Also, if scum decide to claim power, we might get conflicting claims, which will give us a choice of two instead of a choice of six.

Is there a downside?

[tubby216]

nope i got it sounds good,

i'll claim now while i continue to read,

i am a townie, no powers nothin cool,

[iamausername]

-Cream147,

Mafia Roleblocker

, lynched Day 3 (page 60)
-al4xz, Mafia Goon, killed Night 3 (page 60)
-Netlava

Slepz

, Mafia Roleblocker, killed Night 6 (page 78)

Mod, can you tell us if there is any particular significance to the colours here?

Also, I'm a vanilla townie too. Surye case is about half done.