erm, check again? xDZachrulez wrote:That you're not voting for.Battle Mage wrote:quoth the scum
For reference, that post was directed at you, and not Alex, OBVIOUSLY.
BM
erm, check again? xDZachrulez wrote:That you're not voting for.Battle Mage wrote:quoth the scum
I replied to Alex's post separately. And timing wise, you could have worked out that i'd been sarnath'd. But you'll cling to ANYTHING wont ya? xDZachrulez wrote:Obviously your post is directly below Alex's.
I think slightly different. I think, if you iso me, you will go in looking for scumtells, and when you dont find any, you'll make them up.Zachrulez wrote:I need to ignore Battlemage and iso him.
I don't like what I'm seeing from him at all, and I think putting together his play as a whole will shed some light on him.
Humorous that you attack me for the Quicklynch, when i...wasnt even on the wagon. -.-alexhans wrote:Great Job everyone... Nice quicklynch.
specially Camn and SensFan...FoS: SensFanDon't hide behind your scummy meta of hammering without reason.
Vote Battle Mage
It's him, bcc or maybe SensFan today.
Bye.
DDD is not scum with Benmage.Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Great, nine pages in twenty hours, that’ll really encourage me to participate more.
Despite the objections I’ve seen townies (possibly Benmage in other games, Ben links if so) prepare in such a fashion overnight. I think his choice of targets to ISO is strange and was more than a little influenced by the amount people posted. That was about the best use of a self-vote I’ve ever seen, though I doubt the wagon would’ve gained any more steam as different people came online.
I think Alex’s reaction to my behavior is hilarious and he can’t spell the word collaborate properly.
I’d usually object to lurker pressure/lynching, since the prod mechanism is supposed to make sure they post occasionally, but since that hasn’t worked I’d be fine with it in this case.
Vote: Cephrir
Lol, you know my views on the length of days. You also know i was Pro-Cephrir lynch. My only issue is the speed with which it happened-i'd rather have seen more discussion beforehand.GIEFF wrote:Battle Mage wrote:Humorous that you attack me for the Quicklynch, when i...wasnt even on the wagon. -.-
Ridiculous, Battle Mage. YOU are the main reason we lynched Cephrir over bcc. Not being on the wagon just makes you look scummier.
The second quote is unclear. If i worded it like that, i apologise. Your play yesterday was poor, but you did manage to stay well clear of the Cephrir lynch. True, you arent likely to help run up scum today either. But you are a loud player, that most of us had concluded as protown. Baltar was killed, and he wasn't as protown as you. It seems really odd that Camn was killed too-when if you were town, you'd have continued to exert most of your energy on him. The fact nobody has pointed this out makes it more valid imo. Your acknowledged this yourself.Gieff wrote:Battle Mage wrote:I'm perplexed by Gieff's continued existence in this game. If he's town, it should probably tell him something about his performance thus far...I don't get it. If my play has been poor, why would I get NK'd? Looks like you're trying to use a NK IN ADVANCE to make me look scummy.Battle Mage wrote:Gieff's play yesterday was far from stellar, and tbh, i'll be surprised if he isnt NKed tonight.
If you felt that was a concern, you should've sucked it up and voted for me. You werent voting for me, or expressing any concern about my affiliation. There was no reason not to trust me, or to throw a hissy-fit - UNLESS you knew that Cephrir was town, and wanted to play for town kudos.GIEFF wrote:I did NOT have a massive aversion to a Cephrir-lynch. What I had a massive aversion to was people just blindly charging ahead and lynching one of two lurkers without thinking about it, just because YOU claimed to have some rock-solid meta read on bcc that you couldn't tell us about.Battle Mage wrote:1437 shows Gieff shouldnt have had a massive aversion to a Cephrir lynch. Ah, i think im hitting my head against a brick wall. Gieff's mentality is pretty darn protown.
*facepalm*Gieff wrote: Why weren't you on the Cephrir wagon, Battle Mage? You worked for pages and pages and pages to get him lynched, but did NOT end up on the wagon, and are already trying to use that fact to make yourself look townie.
Pull a Cephrir? lol i dont get it.Gieff wrote: You say the camn kill likely implicated me, and that if I am NOT killed tomorrow, that also implicates me. But you squirm your way out of a commitment by then claming that I play pro-town. Trying to pull a Cephrir?
Lol, have you got Jammer on your mind? xDGieff wrote: Throw some NK-WIFOM crap my way, wait for people to come charging after you to "make you happy" and then claim you had nothing to do with mymislynchtomorrow?
I never made any bones about that. It was the right lynch.GIEFF wrote:You are not responsible for the speed of the wagon, but you are responsible for the wagon itself.
Lol paranoia about strong players not being NKed is not a new thing for me. Again, i cant reference this, but you could always ask Yos. xDGieff wrote:You are saying that if I am not night-killed tonight (which I will not be), then I am scummy tomorrow. Controlling the NK-speculation before you even make the kill.Battle Mage wrote:What do you mean by the phrase "NK IN ADVANCE"?
Just me? And i'm town. So, from my PoV, it's unlikely that the Camn-kill was to implicate you, given nobody has bothered to follow it up. But, i can understand a level of concern from yours.Gieff wrote:Well, one possible motive for killing camn could be to try to make me look scummy - can you think of anybody who has done that so far today?Battle Mage wrote:It seems really odd that Camn was killed too-when if you were town, you'd have continued to exert most of your energy on him. The fact nobody has pointed this out makes it more valid imo. Your acknowledged this yourself.
Haha, not sure my flip is gonna make you feel much better. lmaoGieff wrote: What makes me know my play has been poor is not the fact that I am still alive, but camn's alignment.
I'm not sure. lolGieff wrote: Why weren't you on the Cephrir lynch?
Well, you're wrong. And i'm not the only one who has pointed this out. The only person here who had ANY meta excuse for thinking Cephrir was town, was Zach. All your evidence pointed to Cephrir-scum, and the fact you didnt pick this up, makes me wonder whether you are genuinely scumhunting, or just trying to distance from a mislynch.GIEFF wrote:I made a big fuss because it matters who we lynch.
My meta did NOT prove Cephrir scum - you keep claiming this, but I don't agree.
Of course you WOULD say that.Gieff wrote:I am not at all surprised to be alive, but I am surprised camn is dead. I think the kill implicates whoever tries to use it to their benefit.Battle Mage wrote:Do you not think it's odd that you are still alive, and Camn is dead?
Lol! Might i speculate that this is another benefit to you killing Camn? You can become far less confident, and move your vote around more freely. With Camn alive, you had to stay consistent, and that meant keeping close tabs on her.GIEFF wrote:Newly-humbled GIEFF is going to take a backseat now to try to avoid way too many pages of text or steering the town in the wrong direction.
Don't play dumb. I suspect if Camn and you had both been alive today, she'd have been lynched-probably within 72 hours of the thread opening. -.-GIEFF wrote:No way. There was severe opposition to a camn lynch, and almost every player in the game has voted for me at one point or another.
Lmao. I call BS. I don't think any scumbag seriously expected they'd be able to push a mislynch on you. One of the basic concepts of the Mountainous setup, is that scum dont need to look for power-roles, so they can concentrate on killing players that they cant lynch.Gieff wrote: I do not consider myself the most threatening player in the game. I think the reason I was not killed is that so many people find me scummy.
Dont understand the first bit. Simply spin?GIEFF wrote:I appreciate your confidence that I am town.Battle Mage wrote:Lmao. I call BS. I don't think any scumbag seriously expected they'd be able to push a mislynch on you.
I think KMD is scummy.
That's ridiculous. It can only really apply to someone who never votes for the person-not someone who starts and pushes it.GIEFF wrote:Yes alex, that is what I meant by BM "pulling a Cephrir." Ensuring a lynch goes through, but staying off the wagon to try to avoid suspicion.
That's pretty much my stance tbh. Annoying as he is, i still look at him and think "newbie" moreso than "scum". The problem is, he isn't the kind of issue that will resolve itself. Unlike Gieff, there's little chance that the scum would NK Alex-town, so at some point we need to look at him. If you have some more detailed thoughts, they'd be useful.Benmage wrote:@MOD Did BCC pick up his prod?Alex…let me ponder him. However even if he is scum, there are still two other scum and I’ll feel more comfortable searching out them seeing as I find some individuals very scummy.Battle Mage wrote: Ben - What do you reckon we should do with Alex?
Also, what kind of tell do you think the Camn-NK would be towards you?
In the interest of balance, i have to point out this is scummy, for the same reasons as Gieff's comment. PMing her in private is ok, but making a show of apologising and acting surprised, seems more likely to be a scum-endeavour than a town one.Benmage wrote: Camn NK, re-affrims me as town personally. I openly apologized to her (after first asking the mod to pm her, but was told he couldn’t allow the outside communication.) I came off abrasive and insulting to her, and plan to pm her once this game is over. I was trying to get her out of her defensive shell by D2. Why NK someone who attached their vote to your own.
Policy lynching them is a poor idea. Instead, make good use of your read on them. They should be far easier to meta after this game. Then, when they are replaced, you should know whether that player is town or scum, and can act accordingly. Notifying mods of their past activity is probably a better idea.Ben wrote:I was pro the ceph lynch as well. But I wanted to wait for the prods to go through before hammering. That hammer was disgusting. Yes, gieff I too plan to avoid games with those two individuals. It is very frustrating and in truth I have difficulty comprehending why people sign up for aBattle Mage wrote: Lol, you know my views on the length of days. You also know i was Pro-Cephrir lynch. My only issue is the speed with which it happened-i'd rather have seen more discussion beforehand.gameand then don’t play it…only ruining others fun. If forced to play with them I will adamantly try and policy-lynch them.
So was i tbh. But not really logically-there wasnt much cause for scum to kill me. I'm just paranoid.Ben wrote:I am surprised I am alive.GIEFF wrote: I am not at all surprised to be alive, but I am surprised camn is dead. I think the kill implicates whoever tries to use it to their benefit.
(Colouring mine)alexhans wrote:My reads
GIEFF: Town
jammer: Town
Benmage: Almost town
Zach: neutral, leaning town
SpyreX: neutral, leaning town
DDD: neutral. leaning Scum
bcc: neutral, leaning scum
Sensfan: neutral, leaning scum
KMD: neutral, Leaning Scum.
BM: scum
I know there can't be that much scum... But I'm not really sure who is really scum. BCC, I have no reads but Kai's exit + gut makes him look scum. DDD's lack of scumhunting is scummy. KMD's attitude towards Camn is scummy. KMD's play so far is scummy. SensFan is anti-town to the max. He may be hiding behind his meta.
Why do you want more input from 3 people who you think are more likely than not to be scum?Alex wrote:We need some BCC, DDD and SensFan input ASAP
Why 3? And whats with the confidence? I've seen cops with more caution than you! I doubt you consider your scumhunting to be THAT impeccable.Alex wrote: We have 3 scum in that 5 person pool.
Thinking about pairings is a good idea. But i'm a terrible lynch. You should just NK me and be done with it. In fact, if you're town, i bet good money that if you stopped attacking me for 1 day, i'd be killed that night. So, thanks. xDAlex wrote: We have at least 2 more lynches. So there's no way we can fail to lynch scum. But we should try to lynch right today. I'm very confident BM is the right lynch. I'm gonna think a bit about pairings but I'm not sure how much can I trust that.
You HAVE to be kidding me. You think we need LESS participation!? 0.oAlex wrote: -------------------------------
GIEFF:What do you think about your Camn+Alex theory now?Good. That will be healthy for the game.GIEFF wrote:Newly-humbled GIEFF is going to take a backseat now to try to avoid way too many pages of text or steering the town in the wrong direction.
And probably because your massive rain of posts pulled this game into a bloody confusion that helps scum.[/quote]GIEFF wrote: I do not consider myself the most threatening player in the game. I think the reason I was not killed is that so many people find me scummy.
Woop Woop! xDAlex wrote:Battle Mage (this is all for you):
My comment to Gieff needs amending to you. Because clearly i can't expect the same level of rationality from you as town. Suffice to say, my play regarding the Ceph wagon cannot be attributed a scum motive. I'm pretty sure your vote on me is just because, for the last 40 pages, you cant be bothered to actually analyse this game. There isnt anything i can say to change your mind, so tell me-what's the point us even talking?Alex wrote:I didn't vote you for that waggon. I vote you because you're scum and you supported a quicklynch but tried to stay off it...BM wrote:Humorous that you attack me for the Quicklynch, when i...wasnt even on the wagon. -.-
A policy lynch in this case is not somebody i dislike. It's somebody that hasnt committed conventional scumtells, but we can't really deal with, and we certainly dont want to give a victory to. Lurkers like Ceph and BCC fitted that category for most people. Sensfan fits it, because he's hiding behind a scummy meta, and we cant get a read on him. You fit it, because you've beenAlex wrote:Bullshit. Stop talking like SensFan. There's no GOOD policy lynches. We have to lynch scum not people that we dislike for some reason.BM wrote:The problem with this game is, more than 50% of the players are good policy lynches at this point,
Really? I recall my public stance being pretty torn. In any case, i looked at the game in a different light overnight-hence my changing opinion on Zach.Alex wrote:IIRC, you said she was town...BM wrote:Camn getting killed is an absolute God-send, because she was both a policy-lynch, and a scummy player, who we now won't waste a mislynch on.
I don't even want to dignify the last bit with a response. I suspect Gieff will probably punish you accordingly. How can YOU call somebody on tunnel-visioning? lmfaoAlex wrote: regarding GIEFF's performance... there's 2 choices... he is scum... or he is town and is hurting the town with his enormous quantities of posts where he just tunnel visions on someone and keeps trying to find reasons to call them scum. I think the latter.
Did you not read what you quoted? I'll highlight it for you.Alex wrote:Wich is inconsistent... Why did you derail the bcc waggon but then didn't take responsability for the Cephir one?BM wrote:I was one of the prime lynch pushers, and i wasnt even voting for Cephrir by the end of the Day.
Night speculating on Night 0 is foolish. Night speculating on a player whose presence was dominated by another, is perfectly reasonable. Whether Gieff committed the kill or not, is to be determined. But, the obvious conclusion we are expected to draw is that he did, or scum want us to think he did. I was leaning towards the former, but hearing from you and Benmage has swayed me back to the latter.Alex wrote:This is bs. You're night speculating when you voted Mastin for it.BM wrote:The Camn NK clearly implicates Gieff.
Would be helpful if you quoted 1508. Anyway, i said at the time my Cephrir vote was a well-reasoned one. If you were following yesterday, you would know this. Why do you find it surprising now?Alex wrote: 1508: shows why you're scum. Now you say that the Cephir vote had evidence that indicated he was scum?
Yep. But, again, i'm pretty sure i voiced my doubts on her yesterday as well. I'm not the master at this game, and i'm not afraid to admit when i'm wrong. I was wrong to doubt Camn. But not as wrong as the Mafia were for NKing her. xDAlex wrote: And you call Camn scummy NOW?
You do realise that Camn was town? And so was Cephrir? How does me thinking they could both be scum, correspond with me being CORRECT about VP Baltar?Alex wrote: And VP Baltar obv town? This is all designed to make you look good.
Which Anti-Pairing?Alex wrote: Do you realize that scum can buss each other? If you do... then you'll see that anti-pairing is not so effective.
Yeh, thats right. You got me.Alex wrote:Huh? Are you looking to see if you have support for a mislynch?BM wrote:Ben - What do you reckon we should do with Alex?
Lmao. I don't really see what you're getting at here. Firstly, you were pro-kill speculation. Secondly, how does scum having control over the kill mean we cant speculate? :SAlex wrote: Why do you keep asking who does the kill implicate when we all know that scum has 100 % control over it? Didn't SensFan and DDD said that? Didn't you agree? Why do you use it when it's convinient to you? (That was rethorical, the answer is because you're scum)
Why do you draw a parallel between "looking town" and "buddying Gieff"?Alex wrote:It's amazing how you try to look town and buddy GIEFF in every post but still want others to pick on what you say and make him look scummy.BM to GIEFF wrote:Just me? And i'm town. So, from my PoV, it's unlikely that the Camn-kill was to implicate you, given nobody has bothered to follow it up. But, i can understand a level of concern from yours.
Note also, that despite your anxious reaction to my comments on you, you arent my 1st of 2nd lynch candidate atm. Why would i have made a fuss of killing Camn last night, if i didnt really intend to pursue you straight afterwards - which would obviously be optimal.
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I used it to defend myself from your apparent accusation that i was a quicklyncher. I can tolerate you calling me scum, but when you call me anti-town, that's pushing it.GIEFF wrote:Battle Mage wrote:That's ridiculous. It can only really apply to someone who never votes for the person-not someone who starts and pushes it.GIEFF wrote:Yes alex, that is what I meant by BM "pulling a Cephrir." Ensuring a lynch goes through, but staying off the wagon to try to avoid suspicion.
It's so stupid, i don't believe for a second that you yourself give it ANY credence.
BM
It is not stupid at all. You used your absence from the Cephrir-wagon to defend yourself:
Battle Mage wrote:Humorous that you attack me for the Quicklynch, when i...wasnt even on the wagon. -.-
Damn, you really loved Mastin, huh? Shame you didnt do more to keep him alive, really.alexhans wrote:^^ Wich is exactly what everyone blamed Mastin for... Auto-clearing himself.
Note the "you" in this is referring to Alex's original point, rather than Gieff, who has apparently felt the need to give him cuddles.Battle Mage wrote:I used it to defend myself from your apparent accusation that i was a quicklyncher. I can tolerate you calling me scum, but when you call me anti-town, that's pushing it.GIEFF wrote:Battle Mage wrote:That's ridiculous. It can only really apply to someone who never votes for the person-not someone who starts and pushes it.GIEFF wrote:Yes alex, that is what I meant by BM "pulling a Cephrir." Ensuring a lynch goes through, but staying off the wagon to try to avoid suspicion.
It's so stupid, i don't believe for a second that you yourself give it ANY credence.
BM
It is not stupid at all. You used your absence from the Cephrir-wagon to defend yourself:
Battle Mage wrote:Humorous that you attack me for the Quicklynch, when i...wasnt even on the wagon. -.-
BM
That was in reference to your shouting at everyone about the number of scum, on Day 1. If you believed there were 4 scum, why are you now assuming 3? Personally, i still think 4 is more likely. My attacks on you early in the game were not because what you were saying was wrong, but because you seemed so keen to argue about it, when it was utterly irrelevant.alexhans wrote:-----------------------BM to Benmage wrote:Where did you (and Alex) conclude 3 scum from? Looking at the numbers, i'd have leaned more towards 4. *Shrug* maybe i'm wrong.
Some post to show you that BM doesn't even know what he is saying and is trying to BS everyone everytime.
113------------------------------------BM POST 113 wrote:It's really wierd how you are desperate to push the 4 scum theory, but it is in the interests of the town anyway to promote cautiousness.Alexhans wrote:I don't feel like researching too much right now about numbers... I still stick to my 4 scum theory (And it's practically a wcs that we could use as guideline if we mislynch 3 times in a row... we'll assume lylo).
Where's the 4th scum then, smart guy?Alex wrote: 142I never concluded there was 3 scum... I just went along with everyone because everyone kept telling me that 4 was improbable. Wether it's 4 or 3, There's still 3 scum in that pool.BM wrote:Because it's totally and utterly, IRRELEVANT. Commenting on the number of scum we might have on Day 1, is the most pointless exercise i can imagine. Maybe look at it lately, and by all means, err on the side of caution, but your attempts to bully everyone into believing there are 4 scum, when there is no way in hell you could know that as town, have not gone unnoticed by me. What annoys me is, i cant even see a logical reason to make that argument as scum, unless you are just deliberately out to mislead at every turn, or you wanna get your chips in quick, so you can later cry "I told ya so!"Alexhans wrote: I'm usually told that setup-speculation is bad, but here we are, wondering how many scum there is and no one has said anything there was anything wrong about it.
Haha, if at some point either you or Alex come to be potential lynches, these quotes will come in handy. I don't see why i should neglect to respond to attacks against me-no matter how illogical they may be.GIEFF wrote:Stop with the large quotes, please. I agree activity is pro-town, but you and alex quote-war-walling goes beyond that, and gives those who are NOT active a better excuse for their anti-town behavior.
i'm not saying it again. If you werent listening the first 2 times, you wont now.GIEFF wrote:Because you used your absence from a Cephrir-lynch as a defense.
How would anyone accuse you of coaching Camn?alexhans wrote:I never said that Camn town meant Alex town. I just said that an Alex+Camn scumpair because I used a buddying language (coaching?) was stupid.
*shrug*Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:Hi.alexhans wrote:DDD has posted in other places but hasn't even posted to say hi...
why are you suddenly more active now? The word "bold" is referring to you "coming out of the woodwork" today.Kmd4390 wrote:I'm "absent" all over MS lately. That's partially why I'm leaving the site. No time for mafia anymore.Battle Mage wrote:Vote: Kmd
He was completely absent for yesterday, bar 2 posts, where he criticised the activity, and attacked Gieff because he had on Day 1. Today he hasnt pursued Gieff again, and seems to want to play the game. I could see scum getting bolder with less townies to contend with, and i'm thinking it might be good to look at people who have been out of the spotlight till now.
BM
I'd still be willing to vote GIEFF, but I've kind of second guessed my stance on him as the game has gone on, so he's not top priority.
What do you mean by "bold" and why is it a scumtell?
I guess i spoke too soon.alexhans wrote:WTF? Gloating is a scumtell? I have the right to attack those who played poorly and allowed a town lurker to be quicklynched over a possbile scum lurker.
both times he confirmed was via Kairyuu. I'm not sure the Mod has actually heard from BCC himself, first or last.Alex wrote: --------------------------------
BCC hasn't posted since 19 July... however... he confirmed first night and then via kairyuu... what's up with that?
DIY?Alex wrote: GIEFF... it would be cool if you could divide the votepatterns by days... for the next one...
well, i'm a little lazy and forgetful, but im sure i'll manage.Zachrulez wrote:I have referenced the game previously in this game. It's mini 761. Do you need a link to it again?Battle Mage wrote:Zach, if you can reference your meta on DDD, that'd be fab.
Lol xDZachrulez wrote:lol, your vote on DDD lasted 7 minutes.Battle Mage wrote:well, i'm a little lazy and forgetful, but im sure i'll manage.Zachrulez wrote:I have referenced the game previously in this game. It's mini 761. Do you need a link to it again?Battle Mage wrote:Zach, if you can reference your meta on DDD, that'd be fab.
Are you with me on the Alex wagon?
BM
Don't get me wrong, I am willing to vote Alex as well today, I'd just like to see if DDD is willing to post anything or not.
Nothing mild about me.alexhans wrote:lol.... You're so full of it BM...
everytime you see some anti-Alex feeling you try to mildly get me lynched. Although you've excused several times so they can't come back at you when I flip town...
Lol, i should warn you-the day you play a game with the less forgiving players of MS, is the day you will be publically spanked for your condescending attitude.Alex wrote: you were the one who was saying Cephir was scum and BCC town for undisclosed meta reasons... cut the crap.
Also, make a list of reads like I did. Stop changing your mind with the tide.
I was against the Mastin lynch.alexhans wrote:What info would you get with my lynch Battle Mage?
What info did you get with Mastin's lynch? With Cephir's?
I tried not to. The game just isn't fun when it's like this. You can call me scummy all you like, this is really not up for discussion.GIEFF wrote:BM, stop trying making it personal. It is scummy.
Alex wrote:short answers to BM's bullshit are...
Alex wrote:You continue asking BS questions
Alex wrote:He has been the Prince of Bullshit
Alex wrote:I know what BM really stands for: Bullshit Master
Alex wrote:You're so full of it BM...
Alex wrote:to idiotic questions
Alex wrote:more idiotic questions from BM
Alex wrote:Mayor Fencesitter
Alex wrote:BM doesn't even know what he is saying and is trying to BS everyone
Alex wrote:Bullshit. Stop talking like SensFan
To Zach:Alex wrote:This is bs
Alex wrote:concept was bullshit
The constant baiting cannot continue.Alex wrote:not shaming or any other bull of the kind
Thanks dad. In all seriousness, if you guys want to lynch someone scummy today, why not take a front seat in doing so? Last i checked, our 2 main wagons were on BCC and Sensfan.GIEFF wrote:Yes, you're right. Alex, cut it out, too. Just stop addressing each other for now. Let others catch up.
calm down, and talk about me some more please.SensFan wrote:In the US, so still not able to catch up.
Just skimmed this game, though (yes, I'm visiting my girlfriend for the first time and I spent time reading 5 pages of a Mafia game that pisses me off to no end).
There's 3 Scum. Not 2. Not 4. 3.
Way to call me a main wagon target and all this while I'm not here. Especially calling me out and claiming you want more content from me.
Alex is probably Scum. I could settle for a BM lynch, since he has gone way downhill in the last little while.
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I get home tomorrow night, and will then catch up sometime wednesday.
And yes, whoever said that. I think its perfectly reasonable that if I'm away for 3 days it takes me a day or so to catch up on this ridiculous amount of posting, especially since I work 10-hour days.
I listed SpyreX as obvtown too. Why didnt you question that?GIEFF wrote:How the hell do you have a town read on Spyrex?
The NK implicating him does not mean he is scum. It could just as easily be scum making it look that way.Debonair Danny DiPietro wrote:I’m reading the latest GIEFF/Battle Mage exchange on page 61 and Battle Mage’s stances are just absolutely baffling to me. Describing GIEFF with phrases like “pro-town” and “good play” just does not compute for me; especially when Battle Mage simultaneously seemed to be arguing that the last NK implicated him.
is DDD posting a towntell?Zachrulez wrote:Ok, DDD is posting again.
Unvote:
At this point I'm considering a vote on either Sensfan (really not liking that hammer) or Alexhans (really not liking the gloating.)
Gonna need to see more before I can come to a decision I'm happy with though.
are you comparing apples to oranges?GIEFF wrote:Both Ceph AND bcc picked up their prods, and neither posted. So you can't use this as a reason to prefer one to apples an apple is fruit.
i dont know who you are trying to persuade. I still believe the Cephrir lynch was the correct course of action.Gieff wrote: I didn't see you list Spyrex as town, BM. Were you referring to this?
You said one post of his was pro-town, you didn't call him obvtown. And you are wrong about 1451 - it is decidedly anti-town. Cephrir and bcc did almost the exact same thing, yet Spyrex (along with others) ignored ncc completely and focused on Cephrir, whom we ended up mislynching.Battle Mage wrote:SpyreX's 1451 is also highly protown. He even makes a big deal of a contingency in which Cephrir is scum. Absolutely no motivation to do this as scum, especially as it is likely to alienate Gieff-one of the...louder, players in the game.
Was a Cephrir hater from Day 1.
Hahahahahahahha!!!!!! I knew it! lmfaoGIEFF wrote:EBWOP:
Both Ceph AND bcc picked up their prods, and neither posted. So you can't use this as a reason to prefer one to the other. It's akin to saying you prefer apples to oranges because an apple is fruit.
One suspects that Charter might be wrong.Kmd4390 wrote:Charter once told me on AIM that it's usually scum who post first person PoV statements about winning or losing the game. I'm not sure I like the tell, but it was accurate in a few games he referenced. Hmm.Battle Mage wrote: *shrug*Unvote, Vote: DDD
Ifi'm gonna lose this game, i'm at least gonna lose it to somebody who was TRYING to play.
BM
*facepalm*alexhans wrote:Zach. Also, I take it that your suspicion about me now overrides GIEFF, Benmage and Battle Mage right?
You really Zach (If you get my drift).
consistency is not a town-tell. lolZachrulez wrote:Consequently, Alexhans' desire to see BM lynched is far more consistent than BM's wishy-washy voting patterns. Another good argument for BM over Alex.
Oh my good God!alexhans wrote:ok... KMD... no, wait... Benmage!!!
I wholeheartedly welcome GIEFF's change of mind (if that's what it is). But you should see that there's still a reason for it.
He acted pretty sure Camn was scum all along. Then went for me because I was "coaching" and "buddying" Camn. Now that Camn is town. His whole theory falls into pieces.
Anyway... I understand your point. He could've even plotted killing Camn so he had an excuse to not pursue me anymore... But I'm not scum... so... keep guessing...
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Zach 1705: At this point... if I don't take things with a bit of humour (just a bit, I'm earnest about you voting him) I'm gonna start cursing at everyone that talks to me... Always remember... You've chosen who to bandwaggon... BM and I were just voting each other.
Maybe i missed this, but, how has my behaviour been scummy? :SZachrulez wrote:My opinion of the post is that his frustration laced wording of how he was tired of making excuses for you carries a heavy implication that the vote is one of bussing.
So I was curious about what you thought about the fact that Battle Mage seems to be implicating you with his own scummy behavior.
Lmao. I've said this time and time again. But perhaps when i've flipped town, you'll take it seriously:alexhans wrote:sigh... I'm not gonna be going back on forth all day long...
anyway... do you want me to comment on your answer?
I don't think he was making excuses about me... I think that he is just trying to convince others that I'm scummy while still pretending that I'm a newb or an idiot so that, if he lynches me, when I flip town he can say... ohh... but he looked scummy...
He is very arrogant... calling me schoolboy, hypocrite, etc, etc... and then trying to be the victim when I call out his bs (my new 2 favourite letters). You may even notice that I've never been as agressive (and maybe disrespectful) as I was in this game. But some people's refusal to cooperate or desire to be disrespectful and condescending really bothered me.
as i intentionally havent weighed in on this yet, i will point out. DDD is right, and you are wrong. Alex's gloating is not a scumtell.Zachrulez wrote:Actually, I think I'd rather see what you flip, cause DDD insisted that your gloating wasn't a scumtell.
when Alex is dead, there is no prospect of a BM-mislynch.GIEFF wrote:What information would we get from an alex lynch? How would this progress the game?
Hahaha...Zachrulez wrote:Anyway, what do you have to say about the fact that Battle Mage actually had thegallto say he thought you were town?
down to 90% now? How convenient.alexhans wrote:That's not a gall... that's a tactic... Otherwise... how would he explain that he didn't keep pursuing me after each time he unvoted me and voted someone else?
Also, he is justifying my lynch as a policy lynch just in case I remain with him in lylo... Awesome way to lynch a townie and don't be responsible for it.
I also know that I might be wrong... but at this moment, I'm 90 % sure I'm not.