Open 416: SCIENCE - Experiment Complete.

[Om of the Nom]

Of course it's an adequate reason.

[Om of the Nom]

Why wouldn't it be?

[maxwell]

When I'm dancing close to her

Votecount

Scigatt (2):

Om of the Nom, BS2000

[L-2]

syndromeofadown (2):

Guy_Named_Riggs, Scigatt

BS2000 (1):

Quinter

Quinter (1):

syndromeofadown

Not Voting (1):

Voidedmafia

Deadline is Sunday, July 8 at 11:59 PM EST. That's in

(expired on 2012-07-07 23:59:59)

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Note: Guy_Named_Riggs is V/LA until July 3.

I've extended the deadline by a week due to Quinter replacing in and so GNR has a chance to come off V/LA. There will be no further deadline extensions.

[Scigatt]

Why wouldn't it be?

Why is FoS the scummier action?

Because you're not voting your top scumread

AND refusing to commit to a read while staying out of VCA later on. Don't like FoS unless you're already voting someone else and it'd be impossible to vote the other guy at the same time.

(Emphasis mine)

Syndromeofadown's scumreads didn't change that much over 1 1/2 pages, or am I wrong?

[Om of the Nom]

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[Voidedmafia]

You're getting an irritated one from me for doing that, Om.

Also, I suppose not, Sci.

[Om of the Nom]

Doing what?

[Voidedmafia]

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THat.

[Om of the Nom]

The font?
If not, go into more detail.

[Voidedmafia]

Yes the font -_-.

[Quinter]

Alright, I read the thread (12 minutes, timed it).

I'm not going to give a big summary so I'll just give posts that I thought were interesting.

Post 55 - This case focuses on Elmo's early posts. It's exaggerated and the best "scumtell" from it is avoiding the question, which really isn't even accurate based on the posts. Early FOS goes on O2tN.

Post 92 - Scigatt doesn't like 55, FOSes him, O2tN replies with another "avoiding the question" FOS, which leads to a Scigatt vote and subsequent wagon. TheShadow, who had been (word meaning not very interactive with other players) to this point, pops in and votes Scigatt because he "had a large scum-vibe". This is putting Scigatt at L-1 with an unexplained vote on the largest wagon. FOS

Post 100 - I liked Voided's reaction and the fact that he admits that he still suspected Scigatt at that time but didn't want to put him at L-1. Townread.

Post 123 - Don't normally like quiet people chiming in just to vote, but I feel like he has the same thought process I do about Shadow.

Post 131 - Shadow siteflakes, probably not game related. SOAD's posts are much better as they are much more in depth and explain stuff. Slot isn't as much of a FOS.

Post 183 - Bad post, after rereading his ISO, he only asks questions and applies pressure without any analysis of his own. My vote is on BS, and I like it there. This guy needs pressure because he's been going through this day without much any.

Summary
FOS on O2tN
FOS on Shadow
Townread on VM
FOS BS2000
SOAD's posts are a lot better than Shadow's
Scigatt is probably town based on interaction with my scumreads

I originally had O2tN and Shadow as a team, but after ISOing O2tN, he's been townreading SOAD heavily, which I doubt would be a scum-scum interaction. No way they buddy that hard d1. I'm thinking O2tN and BS2000 now.

Reminding people my vote is on BS2000 and would be if it wasn't already

[Om of the Nom]

So why am I scum?
I mean, you only say the bad stuff I did, but where's the explanation as to why it's bad?
Is exaggerating the case really that bad at that early in the game? What did you think of Elmo's reaction to the case?

[Scigatt]

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It seems inconsistent to me, then, to say that not voting for your top scumread is scummy, and then change your vote twice to try to get a reaction, unless the scumread changed as well.

[syndromeofadown]

I get town vibes from quinter's post. I don't see this kind of analysis coming from scum, particularly this part where he ISO's a scumread to get a better read on other players. I don't think that's something you would fake. I also picked up on the strange buddying om has been doing ever since I replaced in

Post 211 - No thoughts on any of Quinter's other reads? Also you realize you're asking quinter what he thinks of his own slots previous actions... that's a pretty loaded question don't you think?

[syndromeofadown]

VOTE: Quint

[syndromeofadown]

UNVOTE: quint

[Scigatt]

I originally had O2tN and Shadow as a team, but after ISOing O2tN, he's been townreading SOAD heavily, which I doubt would be a scum-scum interaction. No way they buddy that hard d1. I'm thinking O2tN and BS2000 now.

I noticed that too, but one could argue that maybe the scum figured that with only two of them, they both really needed to survive D1.

[Voidedmafia]

Post 210 - Eh, I'll bite and call it town for now.

Though, regarding 55, exaggeration or not Elmo wasn't being very forthcoming with why he considered me a townread (or the fact that what he DID base it on is a meta that I could actually copy with some degree of effectiveness as town or scum if I had the frame of mind to properly work on it, but that's irrelevant).

Post 211 - However, Om, I don't think he's calling you scum inasmuch as he finds that suspicious. This exaggeration is noted.

Post 212 - SOAD, if you ascribe to the "amished tell", then I suppose. Otherwise, I wouldn't call it a loaded question.

Post 213,214 - ..fuck the what is going on here?

Post 216 - Sci, it's not necessarily imperative that both scum survive D1 this game, I don't think. I mean, yeah, they do need to be a good shot and get at least one mason between N1 and the night before Lylo so they don't screw themselves over with a mason bloc.

Though, perhaps I just need to refresh myself on Om, but IIRC I don't really recall him fitting any teams. Then again, I dislike calling teams before flips, so. (there's another thing that makes me wonder, too, but it's best left to speculation for now)

[Scigatt]

Post 210 - Eh, I'll bite and call it town for now.

Though, regarding 55, exaggeration or not Elmo wasn't being very forthcoming with why he considered me a townread (or the fact that what he DID base it on is a meta that I could actually copy with some degree of effectiveness as town or scum if I had the frame of mind to properly work on it, but that's irrelevant).

Post 211 - However, Om, I don't think he's calling you scum inasmuch as he finds that suspicious. This exaggeration is noted.

Post 213 - SOAD, if you ascribe to the "amished tell", then I suppose. Otherwise, I wouldn't call it a loaded question.

Post 214,215 - ..fuck the what is going on here?

Post 216 - Sci, it's not necessarily imperative that both scum survive D1 this game, I don't think. I mean, yeah, they do need to be a good shot and get at least one mason between N1 and the night before Lylo so they don't screw themselves over with a mason bloc.

Though, perhaps I just need to refresh myself on Om, but IIRC I don't really recall him fitting any teams. Then again, I dislike calling teams before flips, so. (there's another thing that makes me wonder, too, but it's best left to speculation for now)

*coughfix'dcough*

[Scigatt]

EBWOP

Post 216 - Sci, it's not necessarily imperative that both scum survive D1 this game, I don't think. I mean, yeah, they do need to be a good shot and get at least one mason between N1 and the night before Lylo so they don't screw themselves over with a mason bloc.

It's not imperative, certainly, but it's down to what scum think is worse, losing 1/2 of the scum in D1, or surviving to D2 but with a link between them. The scum might deem buddying worth the risk.

[Voidedmafia]

...'spose.

Also, I have no clue what you tried to fix--oh. Pfft.

[Om of the Nom]

Post 211 - However, Om, I don't think he's calling you scum inasmuch as he finds that suspicious. This exaggeration is noted.

Post 55 - This case focuses on Elmo's early posts. It's exaggerated and the best "scumtell" from it is avoiding the question, which really isn't even accurate based on the posts. Early FOS goes on O2tN.

FOS on O2tN

I originally had O2tN and Shadow as a team, but after ISOing O2tN, he's been townreading SOAD heavily, which I doubt would be a scum-scum interaction. No way they buddy that hard d1. I'm thinking O2tN and BS2000 now.

I'm the only person who is consistently scum across all his team guesses.
Are you sure you can't reach farther than that?
VOTE: Voidedmafia

[Om of the Nom]

Post 211 - No thoughts on any of Quinter's other reads? Also you realize you're asking quinter what he thinks of his own slots previous actions... that's a pretty loaded question don't you think?

Quinter's other reads were alright except for the Scigatt townread. His thoughts on who was suspicious was the same as mine (except his suspcions of me obv).
Asking him what he though of Elmo's play is not a loaded question at all. You can call your predecessor scummy, townie, a bad player, anything you want. How is it a loaded question?

[Voidedmafia]

It depends, Om: Does he honestly think you're scummy (for which I'll retract that statement) or are you just PoE after he's whittled down everyone but you and someone else (for which my statement stands)?

[Om of the Nom]

I was the first person he had suspicions of. I think he thinks I'm scummy.