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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:14 am

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Okay. Tim town means I can discard my crazy theories and get back to something more solid.

First, Siv's back-and-forth on voting Tim is ridiculous. First he sheeps Tim to put IceGuy at L-1, then when I don't hammer he immediately puts the guy he just sheeped at L-1! Then he says he doesn't want to see-saw, but unvotes anyway! And then he goes back to Tim at L-1 but in his
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Meanwhile, Cobbler comes back from his break (with an obnoxious reason -- "oh, I took a site break, but didn't bother telling anyone who might be impacted by it") with possibly the worst "catch-up" post I've ever seen. He says basically, "I'm parking my vote on Tim and everyone else is null" which I read as "I'm hoping to get my mislynch and keep all my options open for tomorrow." On top of that he says "Timeater isn't
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I can't decide which of the above is scummier. Either of you have anything to say in your defense?
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:16 am

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Cobbler is my lynch for today unless somebody has a good reason why he shouldn't be.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 4:56 am

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Then he says he doesn't want to see-saw, but unvotes anyway!


Sorry, what? By see-sawing I meant switching votes between tim and ice continuosly. I wasn't sure where my vote should be on either of them, so I took it off for then. When I'd made up my mind (which was really not that well thought out) I put it back on tim.

Also, look at my meta. 90% of the time I've gone all over the place with votes.

That's all I can really say in my defence.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 5:04 am

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Siv is making a good case on why he should be today's lynch.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:30 am

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Why am I not seeing any of these types of posts from you Ice

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3498538
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:31 am

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Also, none of you vote for ANYONE, until I fucking tell you to.

Siv, I will tell you who to vote for.
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:34 am

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Refusal to comply will result in your lynch

So unless you're town and you want to lose, you will do what I tell you.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:35 am

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In post 203, IceGuy wrote:Siv is making a good case on why he should be today's lynch.


You realize this is lylo right?

So why act like it isnt?

This is why I like you for scum.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 9:38 am

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Iceguy and Saul are BOTH pushing Siv and Cobbler.

This has been noted.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:11 am

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Tim, you will tell me who to vote for. Obviously.

It will be darn near impossible to tell who scum is if we all sheep. Meh.

If you're town, though, not only are we in LyLo, but then there's definitely at least one scum on your wagon. So which one is it? I could see it being either of them (or both).


From your PoV, obviously. But why would scums definitely vote tim?
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:59 am

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In post 209, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:From your PoV, obviously. But why would scums definitely vote tim?


...

Tim's town.

I'm town.

There are two scum, but only one person unconfirmed in my eyes not on the wagon.

Therefore, at least one scum is on his wagon.

That's why at least one scum definitely voted Tim. Unless I don't understand what you're asking?
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:03 am

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In post 210, saulres wrote:
In post 209, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:
From your PoV, obviously.
But why would scums definitely vote tim?


...

Tim's town.

I'm town.

There are two scum, but only one person unconfirmed in my eyes not on the wagon.

Therefore, at least one scum is on his wagon.

That's why at least one scum definitely voted Tim. Unless I don't understand what you're asking?


The bold answers that.

From Tim's PoV, why does scum definitely vote tim?
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:07 am

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Wondering if Saul is good enough to make a play like that

Link me to some scum games Saul.
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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:07 am

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and town games please
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:10 am

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Oh. Well that's not what you asked. And I never said he has it from his POV. I asked the question from my POV, and figured Tim would answer it how he wanted to answer it.

But okay, I see you buddying up to him. I'll remember that.

pedit: I have only one scum game. All my other games are town; do you still want links to them? (Many of them were mangled or fully eaten by tigers sadly.)
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:37 am

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I'm buddying up to tim? I guess I kinda am, because I don't trust my own guidance enough.

Anyway, saulres, part of the point is you're basically saying either me or cobbler is scum, without mentioning ice in there at ALL.

Also...

That second post feels like scum saying "Oh crap I better say don't hammer so when he flips town I can say 'I told you not to hammer! See? I'm town!'" Blech.


Were I scum concerned with appearances, realising putting tim at L-1 is bad, I'd unvote and chalk it down to indecisiveness and newbieness. And this is worthless as it comes from me. Meh.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:49 am

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In post 215, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:you're basically saying either me or cobbler is scum, without mentioning ice in there at ALL


Right, because there's no need to. Ice could be scum, but he could not be. I know for a
fact
that at least one of you or Cobbler is scum. So I'd rather focus there, trying to get something concrete on one of you, then spend energy looking for scum where there might not be any.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:50 am

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who are the two scum players saul
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 11:55 am

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I wish I knew, that would make it easier.

I'm waiting for Cobbler to make his defense. Then I'll decide which of Siv/Cobbler is more likely scum. Then I'll look for associative tells to get the other.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:17 pm

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In post 216, saulres wrote:
In post 215, Siveure DtTrikyp wrote:you're basically saying either me or cobbler is scum, without mentioning ice in there at ALL


Right, because there's no need to. Ice could be scum, but he could not be. I know for a
fact
that at least one of you or Cobbler is scum. So I'd rather focus there, trying to get something concrete on one of you, then spend energy looking for scum where there might not be any.


You cannot compare that. If you are town, from your PoV I could be scum, or I could be not. Cobbler could be scum, but he could be not. You know scum is definitely at least one of me/ice. You know scum is definitely at least one of cobbler/ice.

Why is ice not getting looked at?
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:16 pm

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In post 218, saulres wrote:I'm waiting for Cobbler to make his defense. Then I'll decide which of Siv/Cobbler is more likely scum. Then I'll look for associative tells to get the other.


Defense of what? I already explained why I was very loose with my votes D1 where I had a 50/50 chance of voting for scum anyway. If only it weren't lylo: then every townie would have a 2/3 chance of randomly voting for scum today.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:19 pm

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Ugh. You're all too scummy:

Ice is almost contentless.
Saul is hunting but is reaching.
Siv is also reaching.

I wouldn't mind any of you guys.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:44 pm

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Cobbler please convince me you're town
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 2:44 pm

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Also what did you mean by competition
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2012 3:08 pm

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because you're only in one game
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