Mini 472 - Cartman Mafia - Game Over

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This new guy is retarded.

Word. Don't waste your breath Zeek. Roach is never going to grasp the insane/paranoid dilemma. This game pretty much sucks.

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Roach didn't seem to know he had investigation results at first. Is it possible J-man false-claimed? And then Roach wants to keep ryan alive and votes for me? These all seem like scum actions, or else Roach is just very bad at this game.

Listen, people. Ryan is NOT a jester. Look at his behavior on Day 1 and through the beginning of Day 2. He only became jester-like when Gatorguy suggested that he COULD be a jester.

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Also who are you going to roleblock OTM if we kill ryan? Gatorguy?

Don't worry about it, I'm hoping it will be clear in the morning of Day 3. Even if I die, you should be able to figure it out.

I think maybe it's safer to keep ryan alive and roleblock him so the mafia don't kill anyone again.

Assuming we can definitely lynch the other scum, yeah, that'd be a "safer" option. But there is NO REASON to risk a mislynch at this point. I will try to block a kill.

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Hey Stewie

, any chance we can modkill ryan? Just checking. He clearly has not been playing the game for several pages now and is just being disruptive.

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^^^ Quality analysis there

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What episode are you talking about Gatorguy? No one has mentioned an SK episode.

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Zeek please vote for Ryan so we can move on.

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Yay! Town finally did the right thing. I knew I could count on you guys all along.

Roach - investigate Zeek!

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Oh, again, don't be surprised if ryan looks "pro-town" at the night scene. I expect his "evil Cartman" works like a Godfather role, and "Stan" and "Kyle" are the mafia goons.

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I blocked Gatorguy. Let's lynch him. Estes was investigating Sorin2, so I'm not surprised he's dead. Sorin2 must be the remaining scum. But Gatorguy is the foolproof lynch at this point.

vote: Gatorguy

Roach, you are an insane or paranoid cop, that's why I came up Guilty. You need to watch your own episode, which Jman already included in his claim. Cartman calls innocent people "guilty" the entire episode, so we were already pretty sure that you (Jman/Roach) are either insane or paranoid.

Gatorguy came up guilty Night 1 because he is an investigation-immune SK. Why in the world would you investigate me, when I caught scum yesterday? You need to go play in the newb section.

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We all had strong suspicions of Gatorguy, but we didn't "know" it. I blocked a kill and confirmed him as SK. Win-win. Quit complainin'.

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You don't even know the right terms. I role-

blocked

because let's see: there was no scum kill N1, I said I blocked Ryan, and Ryan was scum. If you could put 2 plus 2 together, you'd know that I am who I say I am.

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Another reason you know I blocked:

No one else is a blocker. Yet there was no SK kill. I claim that I blocked Gatorguy.

Isn't it obvious? Am I that untrustworthy? Didn't I prove myself yesterday?

Yesterday I said I blocked Ryan after there was no scum kill. How did that work out? I am making this game very easy for you. It is kinda hilarious to me that I keep meeting so much opposition.

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Roach - do you understand about how cops can be insane and get incorrect results? Have you watched your episode?

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Roach, did you notice that a cop died last night? It's time to put your thinking cap on! You are not "the" cop. You are "a" cop, and your sanity is yet to be determined. I am now sure you are not sane though, because I know you got my alignment backwards.

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If we lynch Gatorguy, and I successfully block Sorin2, we could lynch Roach just for the hell of it. Scum could't make any kills, so we could end the game whenever we wanted. This assumes Sorin2 is scum, of course.

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Where is everybody? Do we need some prods?

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LOL @ Sorin's post.

I don't think I even need to respond to that. Dude I was responsible for lynching Ryan, how can you possibly accuse me? LOL.

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Hmm we're actually in kind of a tricky spot right now. With 4 required to lynch, we need all living townies to agree to lynch our SK, Gatorguy. And I don't see Roach making the right decision at this point. I'm sure vamp would vote Gator if he ever showed up.

All we can do is to ask Roach to trust in his fellow townies and vote with the town.

Sorin2 is voting for me, so obviously he is mafia. Would you guys rather string him up? I could go either way. It really doesn't matter at this point as this game has become extremely obvious.

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That is possible, if the SK predicted I would block someone else. But at this point, you sure seem like the most likely candidate for SK.

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Yes that's right, I'm the roleblocking Serial Killer! Yarrrgh, feel my wrath!

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I refuse to argue against this crap.

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For my own entertainment, I decided to see if Roach is like this in all his games. Here's some comments I enjoyed from another game:

Guys, please, I may or may not be caught up, but I know well enough who deserves to be lynched and who does not. As of right now, what day are we on? Day 1? Let it pass.

I am advocating a No-Lynch for day one. I would like it if others did the same.

He knows who deserves to be lynched, but he wants a no-lynch.

If we don't lynch today, AND TODAY ONLY, the scum won't NK a townie come N1.

Huh?

Well, at least I'm generating discussion.

Well, I still say that a No-Lynch for today is good. We give the Cop an extra night to investigate, y'know...

Good plan!

But a No-Lynch brings Night faster, and therefore exposes the scum IF they NK (which is highly likely they would, but still, they might not). See my tactic?

Comedy gold!

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I'm sorry but this is too much fun.

-Mispeled: Doc-tells (minor). Nothing more as of yet...

Why on earth would you point out Doc-tells?

To point out possible roles. Such as Docs.

This whole game is a laugh riot - Mini 492

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Hey Roach: My curiosity has gotten the better of me. How could I better support my roleblocking? The guy I blocked showed up scum. You got a better way to support my claim, please let me know.

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Just give us proof that you did roleblock, then I'll reconsider my vote.

Let's see here:

Night 1: There was no scum kill, I claimed to block Ryan, Ryan came up scum on lynch.

What better proof could there possibly be? If that isn't proof, how could I possibly prove it to you? What are you looking for me to say? <-- Seriously, I want you to answer that question.

What would be proof to you?

The ONLY other possibility here is that I was scum with Ryan. In this scenario, we decided to no-kill and then I would bus him and have him lynched in order to gain the town's trust. IF this is what was really going on, this was a terrible plan, as I would be the last remaining scum at this point. (not to mention I bussed my godfather?)

BUT this doesn't take into account the fact that the SK kill was blocked last night, and I claim to block Gatorguy. So clearly I

am

a roleblocker and I feel dumb for even spelling this out this way. It should be rather obvious at this point.

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I'm not optimistic.

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Sorin - you need to claim NOW. Everyone else has claimed.

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Also holding back on this "other person" is scummy.

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Yet we are stuck on 3 votes for a townie and 3 votes for an SK.

WTF?

Roach's vote is the only one that does not make sense. And since he can't grasp the concept of a cop whose results are incorrect, his suspicion of me is actually understandable.

I'm still waiting for an answer to my question to him: Roach, how could I prove to you that I roleblocked? You are asking for me to offer proof, so you must have something in mind. Finding scum via block and preventing an SK kill is not good enough?

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Sorry for the quadruple post, but I just thought of another question for Roach:

You now have a guilty investigation on me

and on Gatorguy

. Even if you are trusting in your own investigations, why would you vote for me over Gatorguy? I am claiming a power-role, and I have demonstrated that I am helping the town by catching Ryan. Gatorguy is claiming vanilla and doing nothing helpful.

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If Roach isn't going to respond, then he needs to be replaced. Please?

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Can you answer my question please? What would be proof to you of roleblocking?

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Idea: Gatorguy, would you agree to lynch Sorin?

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What would be proof is that you give me the RESULTS of your 'roleblock', then I'll reconsider.

A roleblock is not like a cop investigation. Here's how it works: I send the mod a PM at night with the player that I want to block. I do not get any feedback on whether or not my block successfully prevented anything during the night.

When morning comes, if I see something that I think I prevented, I can claim and announce to the town what I did. This is what happened. When I saw that my block on Ryan apparently prevented a scum kill, I claimed and told the town that Ryan was very likely scum. And sure enough, he was.

The lack of a mafia kill on the night I blocked Ryan, and the lack of a SK kill on the night I blocked Gatorguy. THOSE are my results.

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You're completely avoiding my request, OtM.

Sorry about that, I hadn't seen your question when I posted my earlier response.

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Yay, that should be a lynch!

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Let's hope it's that simple. It's still not 100% certain that Sorin is the remaining scum, but it's hard to imagine that not being the case. Actually, I have a new idea about who to block. I think it will help us.

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I sent a PM to Stewie. Hopefully he can keep us movin' here.

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Woot! I blocked Sorin. He is the last remaining mafia.

vote: Roach

8)

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Actually screw that, let's just finish this game.

unvote, vote: Sorin

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Scum played badly this game IMO. Actually, Day 1 they were quite good, although Ryan was just scummy enough for me to choose him to block. Once I blocked Ryan, and Gator killed Chaos, they had no chance, and they imploded under the pressure.