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Post Post #1852 (isolation #200) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:38 pm

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Skill issue.
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Post Post #1857 (isolation #201) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:48 pm

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Ichirin has hit the point where they just come and respond to everything I say by blindly calling me wrong without actually putting any brain power to any of the things that I say.

It is really hard to feel like sie is engaging with me in good faith, regardless of their alignment (which is kinda ironic tbh).

So I am gonna try my best to ignore the things they say directed at me, but I am notoriously lacking in self control to do that.
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Post Post #1859 (isolation #202) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 3:54 pm

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In post 1854, Yuuka Kazami wrote: It is a random redirect or/and universal hater activator poisoner something or other
Its a random redirect, macho making, and a controlled redirect, which are all better in the hands of scum then they are in the hands of town imo.

I actually think that the role, as claimed, it is +ev for a town!Ichirin to choose to not act every night of the game, which feels kinda bad if true.

But I am happy ignoring the role when deciding my read, and was more stating that the role does not make me want to save them for another day.
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Post Post #1864 (isolation #203) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:12 pm

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The only other touhou upick I know of was modded by someone else entirely.

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Post Post #1866 (isolation #204) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:15 pm

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The one I linked had unwnd as the mod and Yukari was actually a player in that game, but I personally don't know why we are trying to expand the mod meta to all touhou games in the first place.
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Post Post #1868 (isolation #205) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 4:20 pm

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In post 1867, Koishi Komeiji wrote: I think somebody near the start of the game to one of the negative utility claims noted that they'd be mad getting such a role as town
This may be a misremembering of me, where I said that I would be annoyed to get Yuuka's role as scum. Which is like the opposite, but :shrug:
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Post Post #1922 (isolation #206) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:08 pm

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I am pretty solidly at the point of believing that we are not getting anything else from this day, and am really just ready to get a couple flips.

Like, I obviously want Ichirin's elim, but even if that is not the elim of the day, I kinda just wish that all of the anti-ichirin elim people would consolidate on their prefered counter wagon, and both wagons could get to like 5 votes each, and everyone else at that point be forced to voice an opinion on one or the other.

It feels like we are just... treading water at this point.
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Post Post #1923 (isolation #207) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:09 pm

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So like, either join me, or start rallying the votes on whoever you want.
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Post Post #1924 (isolation #208) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:15 pm

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Like, even looking at the last few pages, koishi is literally not voting anyone, and yuuka is just waffling and not actually trying to convince people to vote koishi.

Koishi, take a stance.

Yuuka, make a koishi case and call for votes, or compromise on to one of the other wagons.

Tenshi, youre doing great sweety.
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Post Post #1925 (isolation #209) » Thu Mar 14, 2024 6:17 pm

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Like, I feel like at least the people on Kagerou are actually trying to convince other people to vote Kagerou
In post 1806, Yukari Yakumo wrote: Koishi Komeiji [2]: Sanae Kochiya, Yuuka Kazami
Daiyousei [1]: Marisa Kirisame

Not Voting [3]: Aya Shameimaru, Koishi Komeiji, Kaguya Houraisan
But then none of these people are.
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Post Post #1949 (isolation #210) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:34 am

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In post 1938, Eternity Larva wrote:
In post 1925, Clownpiece wrote: Like, I feel like at least the people on Kagerou are actually trying to convince other people to vote Kagerou
In post 1806, Yukari Yakumo wrote: Koishi Komeiji [2]: Sanae Kochiya, Yuuka Kazami
Daiyousei [1]: Marisa Kirisame

Not Voting [3]: Aya Shameimaru, Koishi Komeiji, Kaguya Houraisan
But then none of these people are.
does this make you feel any type of way in terms of alignments for these people?
The implications are different depending on the alignments of Kagerou and Ichirin, so hard to say right now
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Post Post #1950 (isolation #211) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:36 am

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In post 1942, Sanae Kochiya wrote: Yeah but if alignment was rolled after the roles were made up ... I don't see how this is a relevant argument tbh
Actually alignment was rolled first and then roles came after, but the mod pinky promised that the alignment did not affect the roles.
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Post Post #2145 (isolation #212) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:24 am

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Post Post #2156 (isolation #213) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:39 am

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They're just a party pooper!
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Post Post #2157 (isolation #214) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:39 am

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Every party needs a party pooper! That's why we invited them!
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Post Post #2159 (isolation #215) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:41 am

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I MAY BE ILLITERATE BUT I'M GONNA READ NOW!
I'M GONNA DO IT!
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Post Post #2161 (isolation #216) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:42 am

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I'M GONNA DO SCUMMY THINGS!
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Post Post #2162 (isolation #217) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:42 am

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I'M GONNA DO IT!
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Post Post #2168 (isolation #218) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 10:53 am

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THEY'RE GONNA BET!!!
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Post Post #2173 (isolation #219) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:01 am

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In post 29, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Hello frens !

Gotta admit, i did NOT understeand that part of my role worked like that
I'M GONNA BET!

ON THIS PERSON BEING ALIGNED WITH THE TOWN!

My boss once told that people who say anything about their own abilities eat shit!
How dare they boss me! Now, I, am my boss! Just as it always has been!
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Post Post #2175 (isolation #220) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:03 am

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In post 30, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
In post 7, Eternity Larva wrote: how am i going to play this game without vomiting every time i look at the screen

VOTE: Clownpiece
be bold and change back to mafblack
nvm bro this guy is an asshole
I couldn't believe they would even CONSIDER doing such a thing!
Unbelievable!!! Unconceivable!!! What a rebel!!!
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Post Post #2177 (isolation #221) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:14 am

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In post 75, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: I came in assuming everyone’s flavor matched their character. So when I see someone posting that there’s only a fifty percent chance of the character and the account matching, I was curious what lead them to that information. My first instinct was info slip, as the quickest way to realize that might be a thing would be to see your scum teams role cards in the scum pt and realize the names don’t match entirely, although I liked Clownpiece’s response because it seems too precise to be from scum, although my answer from the mod was a closer match to what Daiyousei said. I also realize in rehashing it that I missed the obvious option that Clownpiece’s flavor themselves might not match their character which makes it all moot.
I'M GONNA DO IT!

THIS ONE IS
A VILLAGER

Once upon a time I saw a guy walk into town. He voiced his opinion. They're dead now!
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Post Post #2178 (isolation #222) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:15 am

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it's ok, I understand completely!
I NEVER conform to society!
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Post Post #2179 (isolation #223) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:15 am

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I'm what one might want to call
a Rebel!!!

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Post Post #2180 (isolation #224) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:16 am

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In post 90, Marisa Kirisame wrote: Nothing! I just felt like joining the wagon because I like the people on it!
Based!!!
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Post Post #2181 (isolation #225) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:17 am

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In post 91, Marisa Kirisame wrote: And I heard competing wagons is good for generating reads, or something... that's what PenguinPower-Senpai says...
My Government was overthrown by penguins once!
We had to bring the power back to the penguins!
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Post Post #2183 (isolation #226) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:21 am

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VOTE: Daiyousei
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Post Post #2184 (isolation #227) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:22 am

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In post 103, Daiyousei wrote:
In post 90, Marisa Kirisame wrote: Nothing! I just felt like joining the wagon because I like the people on it!
?_? what do you like about the bunny rabbit though? i can understand someone liking the doggie but the bunny hasn't done much of anything
MURDER!!!!!!!!
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Post Post #2187 (isolation #228) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 11:29 am

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I SEE I AM COMING TO THE CONCLUSION OF WANTING TO VOTE
THE GUY
AROUND THE SAME TIME THE PEOPLE I LIKE ARE!
INCREDIBLE!

This just goes to show my epic gamer skillz
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Post Post #2192 (isolation #229) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:04 pm

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In post 552, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: Question for you though: is Marisa townie because she's doing town indicative stuff or is she townie because her charisma makes you feel like she's town
I'M GONNA DO IT!

Ichirin + Daiyousei + Kaguya = GAME????????

Marisa is based and townie because what she wants to do aligns with what I would have wanted to do at those specific timings, with some very minor differences (I townread Koshi fairly early and replace-in refines that).
My hypothesis is that you're cornered, looking for outs, and you're hoping that a play like this would help your cause.

But Clownpiece will NEVER be fooled! I'll see through ALL your tricks!
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Post Post #2193 (isolation #230) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pm

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In post 560, Daiyousei wrote: i could see myself eventually vote marisa depending on her promised response to this; "high charisma meh slot" is a description that matches my ~fairy feels~ about her so far that haven't really been able to put into words

newkoi saying they like kagerou's body of work gives me the sads in light of my post on the matter ;_; fairies are used to being ignored but that doesn't make it suck any less!

488 is a really weird question to ask of the post it's quoting and 490 is a really weird response because it takes the question seriously! i feel like i'm the one missing something here @_@
In post 553, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: actually hmmm

one thing i find weird is how Marisa didn't include Tenshi in her vote pool

VOTE: Tenshi
why move to tenshi instead of sticking with me? did she move lower than me in your eyes since the last time you mentioned her? (i promise i am not a masochist!)
SUPPORTING PLAY, COMIN IN BY DAIYOUSEI!!!!
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Post Post #2194 (isolation #231) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:06 pm

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OH MY, HOW REBELLIOUS!!!
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Post Post #2195 (isolation #232) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:10 pm

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In post 591, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: Once this game is over I do not want to hear the word obfuscation for 15 months.
WHAT AN OBFUSCATION!!!
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Post Post #2196 (isolation #233) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:12 pm

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In post 592, Aya Shameimaru wrote: Like three DIFFERENT slots all decided that because I wasn't posting sufficiently and I was roleplaying that this is a crime, then when I explain why I'm not posting, multiple slots decide that I am the one who needs an example made of them for game state health, because that's somehow fair. And now I'm dealing with arguments that seem to shift and morph depending on what my defense is because the intent isn't actually to READ me it's to WIN and appear to be Right.

Which I can't tell if that's obnoxious egotistical town or scum doing it for the sake of being townread and I'm not sure I much care.
Well if it's to win and appear to be right rather than actually wanting to be right, then it seems like you found your target, no?
A smart reporter from here should know where to go, but I still got some more to read.
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Post Post #2197 (isolation #234) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:18 pm

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seesh
where do I get to teh part in this story where people vote to kill each other
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Post Post #2198 (isolation #235) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:21 pm

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In post 743, Clownpiece wrote: Which leaves me with [Kaguya, Ichirin, Daiyousei] for my day 1 elimination pool.
Throw in Aya and wow it's almost like our reads are basically teh same
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Post Post #2199 (isolation #236) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:22 pm

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I can't imagine that changing much tho I'm going to start skipping through these pages.
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Post Post #2200 (isolation #237) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:31 pm

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In post 917, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: Caught up, brain fried, time to go back to hibernating

VOTE: Yuuka

Gonna break from the mould here
So, like, this thing you do where you put out a hot take?
Is that like, supposed to make you look townie or something?
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Post Post #2201 (isolation #238) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:36 pm

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considering just skipping up to the next Aya post.
I really feel like no matter how much I see wolves post I see a wolf.
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Post Post #2202 (isolation #239) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:46 pm

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ooooooooooooooooooooo
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Post Post #2203 (isolation #240) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:46 pm

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that makes sense!
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Post Post #2204 (isolation #241) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:48 pm

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In post 1636, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
In post 1635, Yuuka Kazami wrote: VOTE: ichirin

E-2.
Full claim or you can wait until e-1 if you’d like.
Sure, I'm just gonna get flipped anyways, I can feel it. Not like anyone
really
wants to elaborate on their cases and reads on me.

I am
Medicine Melancholy
, and I poison people. Yippee !

Specifically, my night action lets me increase or decrease people's Poison stacks, up to 3, and my visitors also have their poison increased by 1. The poison does nothing on it's own until I activate one of my spellcards at night, which increases poison on everyone by 1, and depending on their stacks inflicts Hated, Hated+Macho, or Hated+Macho+Random action redirection for the next day and night. My other spellcard, also at night, inflicts 3 poison on someone and makes them target my night target as well.

I was rather looking forward to playing around with this role but I don't particularly think I'm going to live for very long either which way now. So thanks.
ok lets kill her
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Post Post #2205 (isolation #242) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:48 pm

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Post Post #2206 (isolation #243) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:51 pm

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In post 1642, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Would scum ichirin
A. Claim their real role here when a lie would certainly serve them better?
It's a half truth.
The modifiers could be anything honestly and I'm not sure why another town role that gives people macho is a good thing to keep around. I don't think a town role that gives someone macho is particularly helpful for town in that it doesn't rly help kill wolves and it's pretty easy for it to land on town.
I don't like the role, I'm happy to kill sie off.
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Post Post #2207 (isolation #244) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:52 pm

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In post 1646, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
In post 1636, Ichirin Kumoi wrote: Not like anyone
really
wants to elaborate on their cases and reads on me.
This whole game just feels like 75% of the playerlist putting in like 1/3rd of the effort as the other 25% and no one cares. Clownpiece has just been pushing me with shit like "Yeah that feels fake. Yeah I think that's scummy. Also very convenient timing on that catch up Ichirin!" instead of actual arguments, Yuuka's
had
arguments like, hundreds of posts ago. Can't particularly find any in the here and now or really ANY reason why she's still on me. Kagerou. Koishi still seemingly wants me dead after clearing things up and there's a cool realistic chance I just die before she posts her casewall and she gets to get away with not elaborating on her reason for being on the already since flipped wagon. Tenshi's just screaming "THEATER!!!!!!!!!".
Sanae.


It feels like no one on my stupid fucking wagon is actually operating in good faith for one reason or another. I guarantee there's two scum in the names mentioned.
you're a wolf
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Post Post #2210 (isolation #245) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:57 pm

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an unnecessary word
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Post Post #2211 (isolation #246) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:58 pm

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In post 1772, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
In post 1662, Clownpiece wrote:
In post 1646, Ichirin Kumoi wrote: Clownpiece has just been pushing me with shit like "Yeah that feels fake. Yeah I think that's scummy. Also very convenient timing on that catch up Ichirin!" instead of actual arguments
I made multiple cases for why I think you were scum this game. You either did not read my case against you, or you are willfully ignoring it.

Either way this comes across to me as just generic shade against the wagon.
Show me your cool good case you've had all along then because I can't find anything even remotely resembling a proper case. There's a few posts that give
some
actual reasons for voting me, the ENTIRE REST of your mentions of me are just to take jabs and try to drum up support for killing me. Every single interaction with my interaction from you has been disingenuous bloodlust. I was going to put a link on "posts" but I honestly couldn't find anything else that wasn't just a variant or reiteration of one of the previous posts and or their arguments. You're pretty much just playing like an Executioner here and I'm not very fond of how you can't even fucking pretend to be in good faith and yet town STILL just doesn't fucking care. Your arguments are wildly disproportionate to the fervor of your read and I suspect you've abandoned the pretense of actually needing a reason to constantly try and get me killed anyhow.

VOTE: Clownpiece
this is what a cornered wolf looks like
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Post Post #2212 (isolation #247) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 12:59 pm

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In post 1778, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
In post 1776, Yuuka Kazami wrote: I don’t think an executioner meets the flavor.

Probably.
More of a metaphor. I think Clownpiece is just straight scum.
You don't have outs so you're lashing out at my slot
this is what this looks like to me
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Post Post #2213 (isolation #248) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:00 pm

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In post 1793, Aya Shameimaru wrote:
In post 253, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
In post 144, Eternity Larva wrote: VOTE: Daiyousei this is probably just scum tho

and i don't think it's because i'm not vibing with the roleplay (i don't want to discourage the roleplay btw, do what is fun for you! i am just bitter about not knowing the flavor and being left out of the joke :P)
In post 151, Marisa Kirisame wrote: VOTE: Daiyousei

UwU
In post 157, Koishi Komeiji wrote: VOTE: Daiyousei
Do not like any of these votes.
In post 254, Ichirin Kumoi wrote: Oh. I look away for a few minutes and by the time I post again there's 3 people on me.
I refuse to do my reporting in Wall Posts, so let's start here, with this series of posts. Sie has spent most if not all of their time prior to the post calling out votes on Dai posting gems about disliking the Mod's personal colour and arguing over the name to role mechanic. Consider this sie's first real engagement into the game, followed by a response of... this reporter is going to go with Outrage tinged with surprise as the sudden turn onto hir.

Ichirin then proceeds to engage negatively with the pressure, but in a way that doesn't read like scum being flustered, none of this reads like scum being flustered. It does read like a player uncomfortable in the game trying to find a foothold and deciding they have seen a pattern of behaviour that they want to comment on, being punished for making that comment, and reacting accordingly.

I fail to be able to report what the scum behavioural motivation behind taking this line of behaviour was. And I don't even mean the emotional response that comes later, emotions can be harder to control. I mean making the observation about the votes on Dai... and then returning only to comment on the votes on you without offering more substantials. What's the end goal? What's the angle? Where's the motivation behind this? I can see and have offered a townie perspective on this. It reads and fits very well with my understanding of the slot and player. But I just don't get why scum!Ichirin does this? What benefit? What angle? Scum can make mistakes but this reads like the kind of unforced error only townies make, unless you're trying to argue a level of WIFOM into "too scummy to be scum" that is hard to argue is a scum players goal THIS EARLY into day 1.
Very interesting that you're getting involved here.
Sure would not look good if you defended mafia, huh
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Post Post #2214 (isolation #249) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:03 pm

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In post 1824, Daiyousei wrote: i believe ichirin's roleclaim at least as much as i believe anything anyone says publicly about their role

i also don't think the mechanics are alignment indicative and that focusing on trying to puzzle that out is going to distract the thread (yes i am aware posting has slowed a bit at the moment)

obviously i'm not going to get into details about myself but i look at ichirin's claim and i look at my role and i look back at ichirin's claim and have no issue seeing it attached to either alignment
of course you believe it
you're their teammate!
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Post Post #2215 (isolation #250) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:04 pm

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In post 1831, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
In post 1819, Koishi Komeiji wrote: Okay so, you're presently scum reading Clown, Wolf, me? Yeah?

What do you take of Aya's words about you?
Clownpiece > Kagerou >>>>> You roughly, yeah.

I enjoyed Aya's analysis, and overall I think Aya's analysis has come from an understanding town perspective. I must admit that I'm probably biased towards my defenders right now when it feels like my detractors have immaterial and missing arguments, but I think Aya has looked consistently genuine in her solving attempts.
Wow!
look!
Sie's tuting Aya's horn!
Incredible!
Who could have ever seen this coming?
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Post Post #2216 (isolation #251) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:06 pm

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In post 1919, Koishi Komeiji wrote:
In post 1917, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: I really hate how spread out the wagons have been this game, it’s such a weird thing to look on in reviewing the vote counts
Yeah VCA is dead in anon games anyways IME.
Disagree!
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Post Post #2217 (isolation #252) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:12 pm

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I'M DONE!

I'M GONNA DO IT!!!!!!
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Post Post #2218 (isolation #253) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:13 pm

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VOTE: Ichirin

KILL THIS
KILL DAIYOUSEI
KILL AYA
KILL KAGUYA

GAME OVER
GG
I WIN
YOU LOSE
BAIBAI
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Post Post #2220 (isolation #254) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:26 pm

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She tried to push very townie people tm
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Post Post #2221 (isolation #255) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:38 pm

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tbh i tr everyone I don't wanna kill
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Post Post #2223 (isolation #256) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:16 pm

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baby game
what can I say
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Post Post #2225 (isolation #257) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:32 pm

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In post 2224, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
In post 2218, Clownpiece wrote: VOTE: Ichirin

KILL THIS
KILL DAIYOUSEI
KILL AYA
KILL KAGUYA

GAME OVER
GG
I WIN
YOU LOSE
BAIBAI
Absolutely miserable slot.
Because I'm town who's right on your slot?
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Post Post #2226 (isolation #258) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:32 pm

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Miserable because you can't control or sway me?
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Post Post #2229 (isolation #259) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:39 pm

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I will take that as a compliment tyvm!~
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #260) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:49 pm

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In post 2230, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Well, I have an entire narrative in my head for koishi scum. Which is a little bizarre.

I do think we should move forward once townclownpiece is done catching up.
I've been done
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Post Post #2234 (isolation #261) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:50 pm

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My opinion on Koishi pre-replace in was that they seemed generally uninformed with the takes they wanted to give as well as when they gave them and upon replacing into the game, their entrance to that seemed villagery enough for me to be satisfied.
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Post Post #2236 (isolation #262) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:52 pm

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I actually like reading 80+ pages in 1 day and I've came up w/ methods to make that 80+ pages seem like not 80+ pages
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Post Post #2240 (isolation #263) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:55 pm

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Hey!
I am about as competent as Lukeworm!
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Post Post #2241 (isolation #264) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 6:56 pm

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The conclusions we reached were the same as well!
I'm not that bad guys!
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Post Post #2244 (isolation #265) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:00 pm

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I'm just more opaque than the guy no big deal
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Post Post #2245 (isolation #266) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:00 pm

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oh are we unhappy that I didn't write walls and explain every read now x_x
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Post Post #2248 (isolation #267) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:02 pm

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You can be nice!
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Post Post #2250 (isolation #268) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:06 pm

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I imagine it would be more productive to be open to discussing disagreements in reads, but I'm down to just be a thread dweller and do the chaos and trolling thing as well!
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Post Post #2251 (isolation #269) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:07 pm

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Writing all that stuff isn't even worth the reward, it just makes other people happy.
HECK making people happy
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #270) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:14 pm

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In post 2252, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
In post 2251, Clownpiece wrote: Writing all that stuff isn't even worth the reward, it just makes other people happy.
HECK making people happy
Social Deduction players when they have to social
This game is a puzzle solving game not a social game
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Post Post #2254 (isolation #271) » Fri Mar 15, 2024 7:14 pm

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to me*
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Post Post #2273 (isolation #272) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:00 pm

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Image
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Post Post #2276 (isolation #273) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:04 pm

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In post 2275, Sanae Kochiya wrote:
In post 2231, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: I don't like the new lore accurate Clownpiece
Is this, like, how Clownpiece talks in the games?
Probably not!
I just have a bunch of screws loose!
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Post Post #2277 (isolation #274) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:05 pm

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Did you know that pfp makes you look like you're vry serious & you mean vry serious business
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Post Post #2280 (isolation #275) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 2:20 pm

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great so what ARE we waiting for
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Post Post #2298 (isolation #276) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:19 pm

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In post 2287, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote: UNVOTE: idk i thought ichirins….i dunno what to call it, send off post? Felt really really emotionally good.

I don’t have any alternative, koichi can live today off the claim at the very least.
I’M GONNA DO IT!!!

Here is my professional opinion on the matter
- I think the majority of players are decently townie.
- I don’t think Irchin did anything that stands out to me. In particular, Irchin does not strike me as someone who wants to be right but rather appear as if Irchin wants to be right.
- Do you wanna run up another guy and get another claim out of them? I don’t think this is advisable. I don’t even know why koishi claimed tbh.
- Someone has to die. The role isn’t particularly appealing to keep alive
- Most of what was posted has mostly been emotional appeals. Emotional appeals can’t be the only thing to justify keeping the slot alive, they need substance. Something that definitively screams town. I can think this for a lot of players, not Irchin.
- if u don’t know what to do, it’s because your gut tells u something is off. It probably shows that u could be town but just don’t know what to do in this situation.
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Post Post #2299 (isolation #277) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:19 pm

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In post 2294, Sanae Kochiya wrote: Hard game is hard
I feel like we're bouncing up the wrong tree

Why can't we kill Koihsi again?
Let god sort them out
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Post Post #2300 (isolation #278) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:20 pm

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Koishi is town anyways
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Post Post #2301 (isolation #279) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:32 pm

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In post 2278, Sanae Kochiya wrote:
In post 2274, Koishi Komeiji wrote: I'm still feeling like shit but going out of my way to hold off since both Sanae and Yuuka have stated an intent to want more time to write up their me-case?
1. Feel better
2. I feel like I've probably said what I wanted to, don't especially think I'm going to be writing up a whole formal you case today, unless someone asks me to

I'm probably landing on being
ok
with an Ichirin lim, you're still my preference though
We have time to kill so I am asking you to
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Post Post #2306 (isolation #280) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:37 pm

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In post 2302, Yuuka Kazami wrote:
In post 2299, Clownpiece wrote:
In post 2294, Sanae Kochiya wrote: Hard game is hard
I feel like we're bouncing up the wrong tree

Why can't we kill Koihsi again?
Let god sort them out
Their role is, as the kids say. Convenient.
But like,
In a not great way. The argument we should just kill them one day before Elo is an argument for them living a lot longer than they otherwise would.
I genuinely believe it extends their lifespan, it doesn’t diminish their shelf life like they’re trying to make it out to be.
If they’re speaking the truth, they have to be answered
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Post Post #2307 (isolation #281) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:42 pm

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In post 2305, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Oh, they aren’t voting anyone.

Of course.
Go track their entire vote history that should basically give u the info u want, no?
Following the vote is a very effective way to sort this era of players
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Post Post #2309 (isolation #282) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:46 pm

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In post 2302, Yuuka Kazami wrote:
In post 2299, Clownpiece wrote:
In post 2294, Sanae Kochiya wrote: Hard game is hard
I feel like we're bouncing up the wrong tree

Why can't we kill Koihsi again?
Let god sort them out
Their role is, as the kids say. Convenient.
But like,
In a not great way. The argument we should just kill them one day before Elo is an argument for them living a lot longer than they otherwise would.
I genuinely believe it extends their lifespan, it doesn’t diminish their shelf life like they’re trying to make it out to be.
Oh also I think there are a lot when it comes to claims that can be analyzed to understand what alignment is making them, so I don’t really care about this in particular, and I would go as far to say that this argument to me is concerning
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Post Post #2312 (isolation #283) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:47 pm

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If what Koishi says is true, you should be able to garner it from reading their entire body of work.
All of the evidence to me just points to that being a villager
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Post Post #2315 (isolation #284) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:50 pm

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Then I want to hear out your perspective fully.
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Post Post #2321 (isolation #285) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:45 pm

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For me personally stats are something that lead me to questions which then take me to conclusions rather than just conclusions themselves.
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Post Post #2322 (isolation #286) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 4:48 pm

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In general I have a hard time following long, verbose posts, but i am trying.
Tho I want to say that I feel like ur overthinking it? Maybe that’s a bad take but generally I read a mess that generally tells me that u like them more than you don’t but u can see things that could come from wolves? I feel like villagers in general don’t make themselves hard to find.
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Post Post #2325 (isolation #287) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:04 pm

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I mean they wanted to claim this day phase and they wanted people to come into them, no?
I value this kind of strategy. Well not necessarily the claim part, but me personally, I don’t mind playing those positions because if u can identify that you’re the thing that would likely attract wolves, it makes your job easier.
I would probably play this way, even as a protective, mostly because when I’m town, I know I can just do my own thing for the most part and it will work out. That’s part of what being town is. And maybe I need to fuck around and find out to learn to value my life and appearance more.

I think the whole idea is completely unnecessary if they’re a wolf. If anything, they’re being extra because???
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Post Post #2326 (isolation #288) » Sat Mar 16, 2024 5:08 pm

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This post is quite boring, but I imagine we’re at the point where we need bodies.
Very boring thought to say, completely trivializes the conversation at hand
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Post Post #2341 (isolation #289) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:01 am

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What are these reads being based on again
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Post Post #2355 (isolation #290) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 12:31 pm

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Go go go go go!!!
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Post Post #2357 (isolation #291) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 2:34 pm

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Hey, wanna know how to get Aya to play the game?
I can teach you one simple trick that Aya wouldn't want you to know!
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Post Post #2360 (isolation #292) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:12 pm

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I mean if we want to get Aya to play the game, we could always just put her into hammer range and declare "post or die"
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Post Post #2361 (isolation #293) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:14 pm

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We don't necessarily have to get a claim out of that, a claim would only be necessary if intent was declared, and we could probably go back to Irchin relatively easily. I imagine we would have the votes to do that.

It's certainly beats doing nothing and I would rather regret what I've done over what I haven't done in this gamestate.
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Post Post #2363 (isolation #294) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:22 pm

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VOTE: Aya
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Post Post #2364 (isolation #295) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 3:22 pm

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go go go go go!!!!
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Post Post #2370 (isolation #296) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:36 pm

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VOTE: irchin
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Post Post #2375 (isolation #297) » Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:22 pm

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OK MURDER MURDER KILLING TIME
GOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!!!!
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Post Post #2386 (isolation #298) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:25 am

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In post 2385, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Larva can you not please
I can’t think of a reason why you would go through
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Post Post #2389 (isolation #299) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 12:50 am

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In post 2387, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: Even if that's the case that would mean his energy would be better spent elsewhere
They’re not harming anyone
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Post Post #2490 (isolation #300) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:15 am

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In post 2453, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote:
In post 2448, Sanae Kochiya wrote:
In post 2443, Reisen Udongein Inaba wrote: Wow it deleted my whole post.

But ye, I think koishi living a night benefits town regardless of their alignment or the truth of their claim. As far as target limiting etc etc.


Really all I got on keeping them alive, otherwise I’d be on board.
No? Why do you think that? If their claim is a lie, or they're scum, why is it beneficial
It protects say like, clown either way.

So basically it’s like this. Their claim only gets a pass for a day. At night scum shoots at a universal tr and that’s probably clown in every world. Even without their claim if they’re scum clown dies anyway.

Buuut clown is taken off the table with Koishis claim, since clowns death is roughly equivalent to koishis.

I could see a world where scum!Koishi pivots and just offs clown anyway. But it’s only more or less likely if you know what scum abilities they have in their pocket.
YES PLEASE!
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Post Post #2492 (isolation #301) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:18 am

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I WANT A DEAD BODY!!!
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Post Post #2496 (isolation #302) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:23 am

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KILL ICHIRN
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Post Post #2497 (isolation #303) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:23 am

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KILL BILL!!!
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Post Post #2499 (isolation #304) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:26 am

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Aya flash is acceptable!!!
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Post Post #2501 (isolation #305) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:29 am

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VOTE: Aya
POST OR DIE!!!!

GOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGOGO!!!!
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Post Post #2506 (isolation #306) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:33 am

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PLAY
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Post Post #2511 (isolation #307) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:35 am

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You care enough to post
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Post Post #2516 (isolation #308) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:39 am

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In post 2515, Aya Shameimaru wrote:
In post 2511, Clownpiece wrote: You care enough to post
You're RIGHT. I COULD stop posting.
I think I want to vote you off regardless tbh
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Post Post #2522 (isolation #309) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:42 am

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In post 2518, Aya Shameimaru wrote:
In post 2516, Clownpiece wrote:
In post 2515, Aya Shameimaru wrote:
In post 2511, Clownpiece wrote: You care enough to post
You're RIGHT. I COULD stop posting.
I think I want to vote you off regardless tbh
I'm aware of your stance. Your goal is to run me to claim, regardless of what I say or what content I provide.
so why should you live?
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Post Post #2529 (isolation #310) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:46 am

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Aya if you became Kingmaker who dies?
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Post Post #2535 (isolation #311) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:56 am

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In post 2533, Aya Shameimaru wrote:
In post 2531, Marisa Kirisame wrote: Your indifference is making it very hard to have a read on you.
Yeah. I know. It's not as if I'm being indifferent on purpose, I just... don't care. I'm at a 0 on energy levels, a 0 on give a fucks. I'm just trying to not flake.
Why are you trying not to flake if you don’t care?
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Post Post #2554 (isolation #312) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:21 am

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VOTE: ichirn
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Post Post #2565 (isolation #313) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:35 am

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I'm so over aya can we just end day?
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Post Post #2568 (isolation #314) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:40 am

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Koishi I think you are obv villa
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Post Post #2582 (isolation #315) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:43 am

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I think Aya's posts are controversial because she has controversial takes and I think getting flips might help
we can't sort her this phase unless we just want to kill her so ig we just wait
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Post Post #2632 (isolation #316) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 6:55 pm

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villager
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Post Post #2636 (isolation #317) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:39 pm

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I have questions
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Post Post #2637 (isolation #318) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:39 pm

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this is a product that is of great interest to me actually
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Post Post #2640 (isolation #319) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:45 pm

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Do you feel like Sanae's play has a beat to it?
Like, let's say they go after thing A. Once they decide Thing A is off the table, they go after thing B. After that, thing C. ETC ETC.
My question to you would be do you feel like they're just informed of the gamestate to the point where they're able to predict what's going to happen and be there on time?
Idunno if I'm explaining this well, but I think what's happening during these transition periods and how they're getting from a to b to c to d to etc can be alignment indicative. I've found that in my own wolf gameplay, this is something I can do well. It's a beat that's kind of just natural, tbh I would call it a zone. They're in the zone, so they know exactly where teh gamestate will go, and they know exactly just what it is they need to do. It might be something as simple as "Ok, so I dropped what I was doing here, what can I potentially do next? Okay, things might shift towards this other person, let's go to this other person."

I just thought of a simple way to put it. Sometimes Villagers don't necessarily know what their next move is? Like, for a brief second, they're stun locked. With wolves, you might find these bits to either be unnatural or immediate if they know what their next move is. Sometimes this can be done by villagers, but the how can potentially catch a wolf.
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Post Post #2643 (isolation #320) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 7:57 pm

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When I'm a wolf, I'm able to read the table. Each player is a piece on a gameboard and it's a matter of manipulating the pieces. Anyone who's even worth their salt should be able to at least do this much I imagine. Do you think this is something that Sanae is doing?
The really good wolves know that inaction is the best action you can take when things are going in your way, and only when the ball is in your court is the only real time when you need to respond. This is actually my gut feeling about Aya and what makes me think Aya could be town? If Aya is town, that is a game changer to me.
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Post Post #2646 (isolation #321) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:00 pm

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If you were able to play kingmaker and decide the elimination for the day, are you confident enough to kill Sanae with it?
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Post Post #2647 (isolation #322) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:28 pm

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VOTE: Sanae
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Post Post #2648 (isolation #323) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:35 pm

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I want Sanae dead more than I want Irchin dead now
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Post Post #2650 (isolation #324) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:42 pm

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tbh I think Sanae's recent positions suck and if I assume that all of Aya, Irchin, Koishi, Reisen, Marisa are all town, then Sanae becomes an immediate point of concern.
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Post Post #2651 (isolation #325) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 8:46 pm

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When I have some time I'm going to put Sanae through a microscope. I actually think this might be gold.
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Post Post #2653 (isolation #326) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:08 pm

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In post 2652, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
In post 2650, Clownpiece wrote: tbh I think Sanae's recent positions suck and if I assume that all of Aya, Irchin, Koishi, Reisen, Marisa are all town, then Sanae becomes an immediate point of concern.
I mean, not to be rude but "If half the players are town maybe someone in the other half is scum" is not your greatest point
Okay, what about if you read her ISO backwards?
I assume Marisa is not a wolf bussing her partner.
Aya would kill Sanae if she could.
Like, they tried to put Reisen in the pool for "very meh posting" they couldn't even bothered to point to something! Reisen got 2 votes for their posting and nothing about what they did is even remotely alignment indicative. Reisen is townie from that whole thing and when Reisen posts, they truly feel as if they're uninformed and they don't have teammates. So going after Reisen here is objectively terrible.
The rest should just be self-evident in their ISO
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Post Post #2654 (isolation #327) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:18 pm

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In post 166, Sanae Kochiya wrote:
In post 0, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
Touhou UPick - Anonymous Edition


Current Status: Day 1


Players

Tenshi Hinanawi
Aya Shameimaru
Yuuka Kazami
Kaguya Houraisan
Kagerou Imaizumi
Koishi Komeiji
Eternity Larva
Ichirin Kumoi
Daiyousei
Marisa Kirisame
Clownpiece
Reisen Udongein Inaba
Sanae Kochiya
I think right now I like
Marisa
Clownpiece
Tenshi
Yuuka (?)
Eternity Larva (?)

And have some sort of scum leanings on
Koishi
Kagerou

(Admittedly not strong ones)
And am basically null on everyone else
A post like this is extremely notable.
Having this many reads early in the game is usually not something town can do but rather wolves do quite often.
This could easily just be potential TMI
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Post Post #2655 (isolation #328) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:21 pm

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In post 213, Sanae Kochiya wrote: Those are the reads I have, and I'm not so confident in the scumreads or I'd be voting.

I'm having a hard time understanding both your and Kagoura's thoughts processes, which is why I'm tending towards scum, but I also think it's possible that both of you are viewing this game from a very different mindset than me, but similar to each other, which is why you're both scumreading me and townreading each other, and not understanding any of my reads. I do not understand this mindset, but I recognize this could be what's happening, so I don't really want to push this right now, or officially call you scum for it.
Funnily enough, they were actually called out on this by the original Koishi.
This is a response that I think makes sense for a wolf to make. It definitely just reads as them double downing on what it is she's doing.

"Viewing this game from a very different mindset than me" is rather very interesting phrase, and I would consider it to be quite hilarious if this was actually a wolf that was just typing it :lol:
like ya ofc they're viewing this game from a different mindset than you, you're mafia! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #2657 (isolation #329) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:35 pm

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In post 613, Sanae Kochiya wrote: For me at least I'm trying to decide if I'm supposed to be townreading Aya for it. My gut right now is yes, but I have a tendancy towards townreading AtE so I think I'm just going to drop it for a day and reread tomorrow with a cooler head before deciding

Regardless I don't think that level of vitriol was a reasonable response to anything I said, but I do apologize for making Aya upset, which was not my intent
Is this REALLY what a villager player would be thinking here?
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Post Post #2658 (isolation #330) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:36 pm

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In post 2656, Eternity Larva wrote: Sanae is a slot i'm willing to compromise on but in what world does this not result in Sanae just claiming and all of you going back to Ichirin because no one is cares about losing that role regardless of Ichirin's alignment

also i miscalculated and don't think i'll be on right at deadline after all, the day ends while i'm at work and i have several meetings right beforehand
Vote is staying on Sanae for the rest of the game.
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Post Post #2659 (isolation #331) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:36 pm

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sorry, rest of the day not game.
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Post Post #2660 (isolation #332) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:37 pm

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In post 621, Aya Shameimaru wrote: Don't ask me to decide which one is scum, by the way. I'll pick the one that's currently frustrating me, as opposed to having a real read on them. I just know that interaction does not go that way between two townies and I sorta doubt it goes that way between two scum trying to have a chat about how to play something out in the main thread instead of the PT.
I agree with this thought process
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Post Post #2661 (isolation #333) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:43 pm

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In post 12, Sanae Kochiya wrote: Hello hello
VOTE: Eternity Larva
In post 63, Sanae Kochiya wrote:
In post 40, Eternity Larva wrote: i'm currently getting townvibes from Clownpiece, Yuuka, and Ichirin

i think Tenshi's posts surrounding the account name vs. role name discussion sound a little awkward, feels like she's jumping at the chance to talk about something to seem like she's contributing without really saying anything

i also don't really like Daiyousei's entrance but she defended my honor so she gets a free pass for the first ten pages

I agree with you about Tenshi - I don't really understand her thought process there at all, which is why I was questioning her about it

VOTE: Tenshi
In post 78, Sanae Kochiya wrote: Eh ok
UNVOTE:

That makes more sense
In post 464, Sanae Kochiya wrote: VOTE: Aya
I can probably vote Kaguya as well
In post 827, Sanae Kochiya wrote: VOTE: Reisen
In post 1134, Sanae Kochiya wrote: VOTE: Dai
For now
In post 1528, Sanae Kochiya wrote: VOTE: Koishi
In post 2339, Sanae Kochiya wrote: VOTE: Reisen
In post 2563, Sanae Kochiya wrote:
In post 2550, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
VC 1.21
Ichirin Kumoi [3]:
Yuuka Kazami, Reisen Udongein Inaba, Tenshi Hinanawi
Kagerou Imaizumi [1]:
Daiyousei
Koishi Komeiji [3]:
Sanae Kochiya, Eternity Larva, Kagerou Imaizumi
Sanae Kochiya [1]:
Marisa Kirisame
Aya Shameimaru [1]:
Clownpiece

Not Voting [4]:
Aya Shameimaru, Koishi Komeiji, Ichirin Kumoi, Kaguya Houraisan


With
13
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Deadline:
(expired on 2024-03-19 17:30:28)


Mod Notes
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  • Music will continue when I’m not VCing with my phone
I've been on Reisen for the last day or so btw

VOTE: Aya

I'll vote Ichirin to make sure we end the day with the flip
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Post Post #2663 (isolation #334) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:48 pm

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I think Tenshi is a villager.
My gut hypothesis is that Eternity is not aligned with Sanae. I don't think their interactions read that way to me?
My gut hypothesis is they are partners for Dai because it seemed like in most situations, they tried to find someone else to vote other than Dai. For now also typically implies that they are going to move elsewhere.
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Post Post #2664 (isolation #335) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:52 pm

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In post 2662, Eternity Larva wrote: i'm slowly convincing myself i might be wrong about my Ichirin town read which is an unfortunate realization 12 hours from deadline

sie has been avoiding the thread the past ~4 days, i feel like sie's realizing how scattered we are and hoping being absent and letting the drama ensue will keep people from remembering sie exists

sie had this super compelling post about thinking maybe hir defenders were scum but when i prodded her about it sie says sie's just waiting to die and will maybe get to it today? it feels weird sie'd have this amazing realization that completely turns hir perspective on its head only to...lurk the rest of the day out claiming sie's resigned to dying?

it should be clear based on the chaotic thread state that it's not set in stone that sie's dying so hir absence feels more like "strategic scum avoidance" rather than "demoralized town waiting for inevitable death"
If sie is town sie is completely demoralized and out of the game. Sie basically gave up. Like, I think this can honestly come from both alignments and tbh, are wolves really saying things like for example, calling me miserable? Typically, I feel like that is just a genuine thing that comes from town rather than wolves. I imagine wolves are less spiteful towards villagers that read them correctly in general unless that's just how Irchin likes to play mafia. If anything, my experience in the situation is I would yell at my teammates that I'm distancing myself at because simply put it's just easy.
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Post Post #2665 (isolation #336) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:53 pm

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Do you see Sie utilizing their vote at all? I imagine if Sie is a wolf, they would at least be voting, no?
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #337) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:55 pm

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It could still be Irchin but lets be real, I'm not sure most of us feel that that is correct in our hearts. Something felt off. Surely, I'm not the only person who noticed such a feeling.
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Post Post #2668 (isolation #338) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:01 pm

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Ichirin will join if sie sees that we can actually put up an alternative to her. I'm going to be mad if sie doesn't.
Aya I hope will join? I would like to give the bird something she wants.

That's 5 votes.
Lets see, we should be able to get 2 more?
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Post Post #2669 (isolation #339) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:01 pm

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hir
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Post Post #2672 (isolation #340) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:09 pm

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I don't think sie would expect people to just forget about hir. I disagree, I think the elimination was set in stone from hir pov.
I think this Sanae wagon is the most real flashwagon that has been presented in the gamestate. I've been trying to get wagons going since I've popped in, no one really seemed like putting their vote in play. This Sanae wagon actually feels like it has the potential to actually be a competing wagon, or even just take over in general. It is immediately appealing to 2 people who are not using their vote, one of those including the counterwagon. It has the potential to get bigger and I say it could even go through
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Post Post #2673 (isolation #341) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:11 pm

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I can see a lot of people voting Sanae extremely easily
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Post Post #2674 (isolation #342) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:22 pm

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In post 1129, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: People blatantly going "hmm yes I seem to be only townreading the hyperposters this is a problem" and then not fucking doing anything about it is annoying as hell
In post 1130, Sanae Kochiya wrote: Well that's a townie post
This kinds of reads as not teammates?
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Post Post #2675 (isolation #343) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:24 pm

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In post 1228, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: I’m really hating the Yuuka take tbh
In post 1229, Sanae Kochiya wrote: I'm seeing a lot of effort-posting, and posting that's trying to position themselves in the gamestate, but I'm not seeing a lot of townposting or solving
In post 1230, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: The list of dislikes of that ISO are:
1) RVS
2) Overblown (232) which I don’t think is anywhere near as egregious as Koishi claims
3) one off comments that I disagree with the take on
4) half of the dislike list are LIKES
In post 1231, Sanae Kochiya wrote: I think they meant to put the dislikes in the other section. That at least I'm not giving so much weight to
In post 1232, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: I think there are some of them that were, which is fine as we make mistakes, however it just feels bizarre to me that a few weird RVS posts, 232, and the occasional awkward post are putting Yuuka in the mid ground
In post 1233, Sanae Kochiya wrote: Yeah I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around it
Another interaction that reads as not teammates.
Tenshi is Yapping and Sanae is yes-womanning her :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post Post #2676 (isolation #344) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:31 pm

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In post 1940, Sanae Kochiya wrote:
In post 1772, Ichirin Kumoi wrote:
In post 1662, Clownpiece wrote:
In post 1646, Ichirin Kumoi wrote: Clownpiece has just been pushing me with shit like "Yeah that feels fake. Yeah I think that's scummy. Also very convenient timing on that catch up Ichirin!" instead of actual arguments
I made multiple cases for why I think you were scum this game. You either did not read my case against you, or you are willfully ignoring it.

Either way this comes across to me as just generic shade against the wagon.
Show me your cool good case you've had all along then because I can't find anything even remotely resembling a proper case. There's a few posts that give
some
actual reasons for voting me, the ENTIRE REST of your mentions of me are just to take jabs and try to drum up support for killing me. Every single interaction with my interaction from you has been disingenuous bloodlust. I was going to put a link on "posts" but I honestly couldn't find anything else that wasn't just a variant or reiteration of one of the previous posts and or their arguments. You're pretty much just playing like an Executioner here and I'm not very fond of how you can't even fucking pretend to be in good faith and yet town STILL just doesn't fucking care. Your arguments are wildly disproportionate to the fervor of your read and I suspect you've abandoned the pretense of actually needing a reason to constantly try and get me killed anyhow.

VOTE: Clownpiece
I don't know if this vote at this time makes sense coming from scum
Is this REALLY what a villager player would be thinking here?
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Post Post #2677 (isolation #345) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:32 pm

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Given Sanae's progression on Ichirin, I feel like that's the kind of post you make on someone you know is town rather than teammates.
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Post Post #2678 (isolation #346) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:34 pm

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idunno who her buddies are but Sanae feels the most right to me atm.
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Post Post #2679 (isolation #347) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:35 pm

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Tenshi Hinanawi - Town
Aya Shameimaru - Town
Yuuka Kazami - Town
Kaguya Houraisan - Maybe Town
Kagerou Imaizumi -
Koishi Komeiji - Town
Eternity Larva - Town
Ichirin Kumoi - Town
Daiyousei - Iffy Town
Marisa Kirisame - Town
Clownpiece, replaced once as of this post - ME!!!!!!!!
Reisen Udongein Inaba - ig they're town
Sanae Kochiya - Wolf
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Post Post #2680 (isolation #348) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:36 pm

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Well fuck me this doesn't seem right either :/
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Post Post #2682 (isolation #349) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:04 pm

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You play your game I play mine
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Post Post #2683 (isolation #350) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:05 pm

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What I do works for me
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Post Post #2685 (isolation #351) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:16 pm

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Do I need to be pin-point accurate right now?
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Post Post #2686 (isolation #352) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:16 pm

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I just need to find 1 bad guy right now.
Sanae looks like a bad guy
we go from there :)
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Post Post #2687 (isolation #353) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:45 pm

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In post 2681, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote: I think pretty much everyone is being some level of townie in this game

trying to team solve while we don't have any flip isn't gonna work out
like idunno this isn't constructive
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Post Post #2688 (isolation #354) » Mon Mar 18, 2024 11:48 pm

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In post 2652, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
In post 2650, Clownpiece wrote: tbh I think Sanae's recent positions suck and if I assume that all of Aya, Irchin, Koishi, Reisen, Marisa are all town, then Sanae becomes an immediate point of concern.
I mean, not to be rude but "If half the players are town maybe someone in the other half is scum" is not your greatest point
This comment is also not constructive. Did you think I just wrote a bunch of names there arbitrarily? Like, what are you doing?
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Post Post #2692 (isolation #355) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:35 am

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In post 2689, Sanae Kochiya wrote: I don't really have time to go post by post through that until much later today
Don't I don't care
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Post Post #2703 (isolation #356) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:31 am

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So like, what were we expecting here?
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Post Post #2721 (isolation #357) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:49 am

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In post 2719, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: What the fuck is going on with this game
It’s a case of “no one can feel confident about any wolf reads.”
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Post Post #2722 (isolation #358) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:49 am

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Or voting paralysis
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Post Post #2723 (isolation #359) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:49 am

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At least we got wagons now!
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Post Post #2728 (isolation #360) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:54 am

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4 times the data
16 times the interactions
8 times the reactions
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Post Post #2735 (isolation #361) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:04 am

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What an interesting line of non-voters
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Post Post #2737 (isolation #362) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:06 am

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I hope when Aya wakes up and she sees that Sanae is a potential kill, that it will hopefully re-invigorate some interest she had in this game.
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Post Post #2738 (isolation #363) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:07 am

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Probably not but one can dream ig?
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Post Post #2758 (isolation #364) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:51 am

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I can’t identify the bigger picture.
I’m also deciding I’m not going to focus on that and I’ll probably be able to understand it later
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Post Post #2766 (isolation #365) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:09 am

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In post 2764, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Personally, I think Sanae is town just because of how they’ve been interacting with Aya, but they could just be hinting at a PR as a means of rebuff/causing them to hesitate.
My visceral reaction is to disagree with this take.
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Post Post #2767 (isolation #366) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:09 am

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Please hold
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Post Post #2771 (isolation #367) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:17 am

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I think the best way I can describe like the page 20ish Sanae v Aya interactions was Aya was confrontational while once Sanae realized what she poked, she decided to uuh. I think the correct word is pacify? I'm really not sure if that's correct or what the right word would be.
I think most wolves when they get met with confrontation and they do not expect said confrontation, especially when it dealing with opponents which one respects and fears, would opt to avoid getting into fights or upsetting them. Maybe kind of cave in a little?
I'm not sure what I'm trying to communicate is clear but this is just how I see those interactions.
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Post Post #2772 (isolation #368) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:17 am

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In post 2770, Yuuka Kazami wrote:
In post 2766, Clownpiece wrote:
In post 2764, Yuuka Kazami wrote: Personally, I think Sanae is town just because of how they’ve been interacting with Aya, but they could just be hinting at a PR as a means of rebuff/causing them to hesitate.
My visceral reaction is to disagree with this take.
Sure, I’m probably:
Right for the wrong reasons.
Right for the right reasons
Wrong for the right reasons
Wrong for the wrong reasons.
One of us is right and one of us is wrong true
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Post Post #2775 (isolation #369) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:20 am

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Aya stands out to me for ~reasons~
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Post Post #2782 (isolation #370) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:35 am

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Is that what trajectory is? The concept is alien to me tbh
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Post Post #2787 (isolation #371) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:37 am

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In post 2781, Koishi Komeiji wrote:
In post 2657, Clownpiece wrote:
In post 613, Sanae Kochiya wrote: For me at least I'm trying to decide if I'm supposed to be townreading Aya for it. My gut right now is yes, but I have a tendancy towards townreading AtE so I think I'm just going to drop it for a day and reread tomorrow with a cooler head before deciding

Regardless I don't think that level of vitriol was a reasonable response to anything I said, but I do apologize for making Aya upset, which was not my intent
Is this REALLY what a villager player would be thinking here?
What do you think a "true villager" would be thinking there, instead?
something that’s more definitive and less posturing
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Post Post #2788 (isolation #372) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:38 am

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In post 2786, Tenshi Hinanawi wrote: The path the read on someone takes, essentially? Like, you if you were following my Koishi read you see it’s been kinda wavering in direction the whole game, versus Yuuka who has been super town. It would be more believable if I started scumreading Koishi out of the blue than Yuuka.

Pedit- @clown
Is that so
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Post Post #2809 (isolation #373) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:49 am

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In post 2807, Yuuka Kazami wrote:
In post 2795, Sanae Kochiya wrote: I don't really, like, understand this wagon's existance either
I would like one responsible adult to tell me what to think. Please. In relation to whether Sanae should try to stick it out or claim or not.
I don’t think the odds are bad. Of them just making it.

I guess it’s the age old question, yes if town, not if town, but is town scum town scumscum?
I think you should decide for yourself
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Post Post #2823 (isolation #374) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:04 am

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In post 2819, Sanae Kochiya wrote: I am Patchouli Knowledge

I don't have an active ability, but am a 'high level' magician, and have access to about 8 different spellcards that do a variety of things, but am limited in how many I can use over the course of the game

Spellcards cost me MP (magic points), and I get an MP each day. Higher tier effects, or more complicated spellcards, cost me more MP; I can also activate more than one spellcard at one time with more MP. I can activate things for which I do not have enough MP, but then I die

The first 7 do a variety of things (doc from one killing action, track, neighborize, make target lose vote, shut down neighborhood for one night, learn action of dead player, delays targets action), and cost 1MP, and if I activate with 2MP it activates a 'high level version' of each of the above (doc from multiple killing actions, tracks + follows, neighborizes two people, loses vote + hated, permanently shuts down the hood, learn all night actions of dead player, roleblocks)

The eighth spellcard is the most expensive and is called the philosopher's stone, which does one of the three following effects;

* neighborizes a target, and we both exit the game for a phase, making us both untargetable, but disables actions + posting + voting
* reveals alignment and makes me untergetable for a day and a night, and when i die i become treestumped -> was thinking of just doing this anyways, before this
* gain all spellcards of an eliminated player

Also in hood with Marisa
My no sleep brain says kill this
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Post Post #2826 (isolation #375) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:07 am

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Nothing says that can’t be a wolf role
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Post Post #2827 (isolation #376) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:08 am

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Ya I’m perfectly content letting Aya kingmake here tbh
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Post Post #2837 (isolation #377) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:14 am

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Welp I’m going to bedge
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Post Post #2840 (isolation #378) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:15 am

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In post 2836, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: I still don't get why people keep claiming in a game where claims don't matter
And ur saying this now?
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Post Post #2845 (isolation #379) » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:21 am

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In post 2842, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
In post 2840, Clownpiece wrote:
In post 2836, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: I still don't get why people keep claiming in a game where claims don't matter
And ur saying this now?
In post 2712, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: can we hold off the claim for like 30 minutes
In post 2713, Kaguya Houraisan wrote: so that we don't have another "claim, time to go back to ichirin"
In post 1947, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
In post 1776, Yuuka Kazami wrote: I don’t think an executioner meets the flavor.

Probably.
Executioner can fit the flavor with someone like Parsee, it just fails the "Role != Alignment" check so there'd need to be a need for an exe from a design standpoint (words are failing me here) which doesn't seem that likely
In post 2094, Kaguya Houraisan wrote:
In post 2090, Sanae Kochiya wrote:
In post 2085, Koishi Komeiji wrote:
In post 2083, Sanae Kochiya wrote: don't see a reason not to lim him tomorrow
I mean, other than the protection not working if I'm dead?
I mean that's why I asked what happens if you get limmed and the way you answered I thought the protection still holds

If it doesn't - holy heck is this a good fake-claim for you not to be limmed any time soon if you're scum and I kinda hate it
People are falling for the same "Role = Alignment" trap they did with Ichirin in the other direction. If we think Koishi is scum we kill her today, if we don't we don't kill her
I've been complaining about it the entire game, what do you mean "now"?
Crows must have plucked out my eyes then
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Post Post #3237 (isolation #380) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:42 am

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In post 3172, Marisa Kirisame wrote: Larva was scum??? That explains why I had too many townreads, lol.

VOTE: Sanae Kochiya
I reached this conclusion over night actually. Larva seemed like the result of the elimination did not matter to Larva.
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Post Post #3238 (isolation #381) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:42 am

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Anyway I think Larva flipping wolf makes me not interested in Sanae anymore?
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Post Post #3239 (isolation #382) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:43 am

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not entirely sure on that but I mean Sanae's reads are terrible so she is worth killing on that basis
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Post Post #3241 (isolation #383) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 10:45 am

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I am Veto'ing any Aya eliminations btw
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Post Post #3257 (isolation #384) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:04 am

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ok so I am confused by something, Kagerou, what abilities of yours are public knowledge?
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Post Post #3261 (isolation #385) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:11 am

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In post 3260, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
In post 3257, Clownpiece wrote: ok so I am confused by something, Kagerou, what abilities of yours are public knowledge?
I have a vig shot that will kill it's target whatever happens and i am reavealed as Marisa Kirisame during pregame
And you shot Tenshi?
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Post Post #3262 (isolation #386) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:12 am

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or was it like redirected or something?
I'm just waking up so I'm slowly trying to understand the situation here.
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Post Post #3265 (isolation #387) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:13 am

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{Aya, Marisa, Koishi, Reisen}
{Kagerou}
{Kaguya, Daiyousei, Yuuka}
{Sanae}

Lets kill everyone under Kagerou
pedit: Uh huh, ig we wait then?
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Post Post #3267 (isolation #388) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:14 am

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oh btw I spent a night charging a commuter
I can now yeet myself to Narnia (or HELL) for the rest of the game!!!!!!
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Post Post #3270 (isolation #389) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:17 am

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In post 3268, Kagerou Imaizumi wrote:
In post 3267, Clownpiece wrote: oh btw I spent a night charging a commuter
I can now yeet myself to Narnia (or HELL) for the rest of the game!!!!!!
But you still are alive in the game if you do that right
Ya, duh!
that's what a commuter does!
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Post Post #3274 (isolation #390) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:20 am

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In post 3271, Sanae Kochiya wrote:
In post 3265, Clownpiece wrote: {Aya, Marisa, Koishi, Reisen}
{Kagerou}
{Kaguya, Daiyousei, Yuuka}
{Sanae}

Lets kill everyone under Kagerou
pedit: Uh huh, ig we wait then?
Wow it's really unfortunate that your top tier is basically everyone i'm scumreading minus Marisa
What are you gonna do, kill me? I will Navy Seals Coppypasta at you!!!
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Post Post #3279 (isolation #391) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:24 am

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tbh I really don't see how we don't just kill off all of {Kaguya, Daiyousei, Yuuka, Sanae} and just win the game?
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Post Post #3283 (isolation #392) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:28 am

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cry about it
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Post Post #3284 (isolation #393) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:29 am

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What are you going to do, kill me?
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Post Post #3285 (isolation #394) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:29 am

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I would LOVE to see you try!
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Post Post #3290 (isolation #395) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:34 am

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In post 3286, Aya Shameimaru wrote: I am the fucking best.

I redirected all abilities that targetted Koishi to Larva.
Well, there it is
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Post Post #3307 (isolation #396) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:46 am

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In post 3305, Aya Shameimaru wrote: Also has anyone claimed the Tenshi kill
Kagerou
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Post Post #3310 (isolation #397) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:49 am

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In post 3308, Aya Shameimaru wrote: Oh awesome.

So I'm conf town. Koishi is conf town. Kagerou pretty conf town.
Kill all of {Kaguya, Daiyousei, Yuuka, Sanae}?
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Post Post #3311 (isolation #398) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 11:49 am

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In post 3309, Aya Shameimaru wrote: lmfao how over is this game huh?
very xD
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Post Post #3343 (isolation #399) » Thu Mar 21, 2024 12:07 pm

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In post 3168, Yukari Yakumo wrote:
Tenshi Hinanawi,
Tenshi Hinanawi - Girl of the Sphere of Neither Perception nor Non-Perception
, aligned with
Incident Resolvers
, was eliminated Night 1.


Spoiler: Flip
Tenshi Hinanawi
Image

You are
Tenshi Hinanawi - Girl of the Sphere of Neither Perception nor Non-Perception
.
You are aligned with
Incident Resolver


Abilities:


Keystone "World Creation Press"
[Spellcard][Night]
- You slam a giant keystone onto the ground and shake the very core of the earth. The resulting shockwaves prevents the other players from successfully using their
[Active]
ability.
Peach Sign "Hermit's Peach of Steadfast Durability"
[Spellcard][Night]
- You consume a celestial peach that strengthens your physical resiliance. You become bulletproof for the night.

Sword of Hisou
[Active][Night]
- You can use your Sword of Hisou to gather your target's Ki and manipulate the weather around them to one of the choices below. This ability cannot be used on the same target consecutively.
* Typhoon - Delays an
[Active]
ability by a phase
* Spring Haze - Disables an
[Active]
ability for the next phase
* Drizzle - Motivates an
[Active]
ability
* Sunny - Make an
[Active]
ability resolve without any potential modifiers

Troublemaker Celestial
[Passive]
- Your arrogance and bratty nature makes others want nothing to do with you. You are immune to being neighborized.

Win Condition:


Eliminate all
Incident Causers


Eternity Larva,
Seiran - The Pale Blue Eagle Ravi
, aligned with
Incident Causers
, was eliminated Night 1.


Spoiler: Flip
Seiran
Image

You are
Seiran - The Pale Blue Eagle Ravi
.
You are aligned with
Incident Causer


Abilities:


Bullet Sign "The Eagle Shot Its Target"
[Spellcard][Night]
- You mark the target with your Lunarian targeting device. Your actions against the marked target next night will be treated as strongwilled.
Gun Sign "Lunatic Gun"
[Spellcard][Day/Night]
- Back in the day when you were a soldier, you were supplied a gun, and you've kept it ever since. You can load the gun with one of the spellcard you have copied from your
Ex-Infiltrator
or
Dango Salesgirl
ability, and use it on the target during the phase specified by the spellcard.

Dango Salesgirl
[Active][Night]
- You visit a player and give them a Dango. Target is notified that they received a Dango. Also, you learn the first-listed Spell Card of the target.

Ex-Infiltrator
[Passive]
- You utilize a simple trick or two learned from your scouting experience. The neighborhoods you are in are undetectable, and cannot be influenced by any means. Additioanlly, you learn the first-listed Spellcard of the players in the neighborhood you join.

Factional Ability:

Image

Win Condition:


Eliminate all
Incident Resolvers
, or reach the state where such is unpreventable.
I mean it seemed like Eternity Larva Active resolved

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