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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:21 pm

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Scum wouldn't target me. With so many dead, they're on survival mode unless scum can work around the bomb. In fact scum would rather use a redirector/busser over actively targeting me. Stop thinking scum would out right target me. It spells instant death for scum, and that's not how they would want to win even though I'm the juicy doctor. I claimed my lover's connection so Gandalf is how they would go about killing me.

Remember my spiel about not confirmed, well buddy I'm not confirmed. I'm telling you how to confirm me, and that's by having Exe blowing myself and dodging the explosion. If at any time
you think I'm scum, do that
. If at any time you want confirmation of me, kill Gandalf. This game is on lock down mode and I'm not concerned about what order or who we confirm. We are killing unconfirmed. If we can confirm someone through other means, then it's better play. It saves a lynch, and we can get rid of more unconfirmed people that way.

In case of super bastardly roles that negate Kai's powers, and the claimed trackers, then we hammer confirm to make sure they are on our side and protect them.
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:23 pm

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I'm almost tempted to lynch KMD because he could be brought back (a mafia reviver/ressurector wouldn't be such a stretch with mechanics like this)
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:50 pm

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TheLonging wrote:DTM I really do hope you're actually town doc.

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OK let's break down your argument for you:

YOU ARE NOT CONFIRMED

There, am I done?
How am I not confirmed?

For redundant purpose we could have kai double confirm me tomorrow, but killing me today is simply wrong play.

I don't expect you to really explain a case. The town will willfully choose to lose this game. It is depressing.
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:51 pm

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SC is scum. Why are we expected to have believed him?
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:58 pm

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TheLonging wrote:SC is scum. Why are we expected to have believed him?
Well if you think logically. The red team must be(or very likely) destroyed by now. So the chances of me being red are slim to nothing. Now he(SC) flipped Win-Cop and said I have the town WC. Had I been purple scum(opposing scum) he would've relished in the chance to gain town cred and call me out. So the likelyhood of me being purple scum is again slim to nothing.

That said if there's doubt have Kai confirm me tomorrow. But lynching this very likely mislynch is simply poor play.
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:16 pm

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I do kinda want to link to a newbie game where scum claimed cop with a town result on town, only to be counter claimed and lynched. The idea isn't that farfetched.
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:31 pm

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DTMaster wrote:I do kinda want to link to a newbie game where scum claimed cop with a town result on town, only to be counter claimed and lynched. The idea isn't that farfetched.
SC flipped Wincon-Cop. See everything I said following that.
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 3:42 pm

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I posted that in support. I'm having a hard time believing that SC would implicate his scum buddy so early in his claim with wild card killers. If anything I'd bus harder over implicating a link unless it was benifical to me if I were in SC's shoes. /WIFOM
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 5:24 pm

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I'm town, so stop arguing about that, and let's move on and lynch Elli, ok?
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:21 pm

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Has anyone wondered about the possibility that SC might ACTUALLY be a jester? And it was his second flip that was fake, not his first? Possibly, he wincopped BM, saw he was scum, and said that he was town, that way when BM flipped scum, he would immediately get lynched.
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:26 pm

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Have Kai double confirm me! Its so simple. Lynch the third party.
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 7:05 pm

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Why not an ooba lynch?

Benmage is town. Even Exe CONFIRMED that Cougar targeted Ben at one point.
They have escaped into the mansion where they thought it was safe.

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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 8:14 pm

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If SC is a Jester then it's a non issue since he won. >>;; If SC is a death miller, then Dram is lying to us directly.
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:06 pm

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If SB does not get hammered by Kai and is town, then it makes sense no sense at all to lynch Ben because SB's ability
- Will give us the kill distribution
- Will tell us if Souls do the killing (if not clears the neighbours)
- Will tell us if Humans do the killing (if not clears Fate; I'm considering Kai and inhim already confirmed)
And this is not considering SC's result on him.

While I get the "Why kill someone who will automatically get destroyed if telling the truth" argument - Eli, given her ultimate (or some variation of "unstoppable" killing a person) should not be left alive to take out Kai or some other confirmed role etc before dying.

Unvote. Vote: eli
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:18 pm

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I'm in a bit of a hurry, but SB is not lynched. I'll post a votecount once I get back
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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:20 pm

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Um, did you read Eli's claim?
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:21 pm

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Eli who did you Jailkeep again?
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:23 pm

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The moment Kai claimed human, was the moment Eli couldn't have killed Kai. In fact, Eli had all of day 2 to kill Kai before Whim died. I don't see why if Eli-scum wouldn't have killed Kai. Nor used it to revive his scum buddies. In fact, Exe didn't change his target yet from Benmage to Kai until the night phase so...
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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:49 pm

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not against an elli lynch.

don't agree with a benmage lynch.

who the fuck is left that's not been confirmed/semi-confirmed anyway? can i getz a list plz.
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:35 am

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Elli wouldn't be a bad lynch...better to lynch a known 3rd party than a random person.
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Meh. This game is chaos at this point. But I don't see us losing, since so many scum have died...there's gotta just be a couple left I think.
Ooba scum is likely. If SB is telling the truth there is a demon who can kill, and Ooba is the only claimed demon left.

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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Tue Jul 27, 2010 1:25 am

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Exe wrote: Ooba scum is likely. If SB is telling the truth there is a demon who can kill, and Ooba is the only claimed demon left.

Hmm.
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:28 am

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Parama wrote:
Exe wrote: Ooba scum is likely. If SB is telling the truth there is a demon who can kill, and Ooba is the only claimed demon left.

Hmm.
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:09 am

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Here's the list:

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- Neighbour
- Flip confirm: Already flipped before
- SC's wincop result (debated)

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- Hammer confirm
- DTM ultimate confirm

Inhimshallibe
- Role PM confirm: Fate
- Role PM confirm: Kairyuu

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- Hammer confirm
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Kairyuu
- Protown power
- Protown play

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- Day-vig with stipulation that he has to kill off demons

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- Protown power
- Protown play
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- Claimed role = Ythan's claimed throw shot
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- Neighbour
- SC's wincop result (debated)

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- Neighbour
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Level I: Confirmed
Level II: More or less confirmed
Level III: More or less confirmed unless you want to get into WIFOM about "Whether the mod would make a scum role blow up when thrown"
Level IV: Not confirmed but at least they are neighbours
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:51 am

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@ooba: You've got 2 people in the wrong spots. My ability is confirmed, and with BC's flip I'm confirmed town. Also, Fate and I are both confirmed by Inhim, since he said that both of us are given as order aligned humans in his role PM.

@whoever is trying to use S_B to confirm multiple people at once: If there is only one scum (or one from each scumteam) left alive, then your method works. However, if not, the scum can simply make a kill that would "confirm" one of their members, slowing us down.

With S_B confirmed now, I'm fairly certain that it DOES implicate ooba, so he's also a viable lynch. I'd support the lynch being any of:
Benmage
ooba
Elli

Preference is Benmage, if for no other reason than to shut him up, but given that I lack a vote right now, I can't really do anything to further that aim.
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:00 am

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