In post 2010, Crescent wrote: It is conceivable to me that Meuh is simply town caught on the wrong vote in a town v scum situation,though posts #1657 and #1949 go from "I think Carca is a 50/50 flip and Carca/JV aren't the same alignment" to "JV is probably scum regardless of Carca's alignment". She then immediately says in the next three posts that Carca is going to flip town. She gives no reason for these changes in stance
I decided to now brush up on Meuh, trying to figure out where early town reads that protected her yesterday came from.
Immediately votes onto JV's spot, and defends Scorpious and Carca.
Then defends DWLee and shades Gerain
Like tere's tons of reads being shot out in the first... 50 posts of the game.
Later on ...Ok Meuh has been shading Gerain the entire game. Says she's going to ISO him at one point because she really wants to sort him, then doesn't ISO him and still lists him in the kill pool before voting for DWLee.
Problem though:
Says town vibes from DWLee in post #86. She never mentions DWLee again in any capacity until vote #593 and says "I've never attempted to sort them" and specifically votes them because other people have voiced some suspicion.I even called her out on how fake this sounded in post #602.She also almost immediately shades Gerain again after voting for DWLee - Because Gerain voted for her in post #596 for a reason that looking back is actually pretty good.The answer is: I'm not sure where the early town reads came from. She spits out tons of reads in the opening seconds of the game, but doesn't follow up or commit to them. Says ISOs are coming, but doesn't give them. Reads come out, but some just aren't explained at all. They resemble her vote on DWLee - They're air.
Day 2 she voted JV's slot early before the replacement, but almost completely ignored the replacement for hundreds of posts.The same vibe can be said when she suddenly said I was town yesterday because... ???.She's actually done a lot of what Carca was accused of doing - Barely a factor day 2. Barely commented on anything to do with Scorpious or Titus. Ger just became a safe place for her to keep her vote parked and she stayed there. This vote was made at #1102 and very little came from her afterwards. If Ger doesn't get extra votes later on (All the way at #1647 is when he gets #2), hers just sits there as a splinter.
I would vote Meuh before DWLee. DWLee's even worse reads aside, they've felt like they're simply more committed in their play - There's more of a natural flow whereas Meuh gives a strong vibe of playing to set up later votes.. Combine all this with Meuh effectively blatantly countersuspecting JV quickly like she did Gerain, and JV/Meuh probably isn't S/S. I think a green Meuh flip makes JV look hellishly worse and a red flip makes him look better
JV's posts between those 2 assessments just read so terribly scummy to me. Also I'm pretty sure I've already explained this - me thinking Carcalilly was flipping town was from other players being scummier. My thought process was that Titus/Scorpious likely has 1 scum, JV's probably scum and so was gerain. No space for anyone else. I would've said the same for anyone other than the 4 I mentioned before. At this point since Carcalilly flipped red, I'm thinking gerain is probably town, I don't really see JV town.
I've already explained my vote on Dwlee a good bit. The problems you have with it I've already explained my reasoning for and you understood them? So I'm a bit confused why you're now changing your mind on this.
In post 608, Meuh wrote: I didn't quite voice the "why" on my vote properly, that's my bad.My point here isn't that I'm voting on Dwlee because I'm interested in chasing who people are pressuring.In post 593, Meuh wrote:Since a lot of you seem to feel kinda iffy but no one's committing to voting them, why don't I do this?
I'm voicing something I find scummy about Dwlee's position in the game, should've emphasized it. Scum adore sorting their partners as null or lean scum and never actually pushing them. The abundance of such reads on Dwlee in contrast with them being able to continue scot-free is concerning.
I will say this is something based more on Dwlee's position than Dwlee's alignment itself and I do need to ISO Dwlee properly, but it's not like there's many people I find scummy on their own merit in this game.
In post 629, Crescent wrote:I was quite curious as to why Meuh put that vote on DWLee, but that's been resolved fairly nicely I'd say.
It overall advanced the gamestate and was a pro-town action, I don't regret it whatsoever. Dwlee's probably town at this point, though. 
I don't particularly care for the reasoning gerain had. I think its placement as an immediate response to my vote as his first serious vote of the entire game was concerning and felt out of character. That's what made me dislike it.
I think you're confusing who replaced who and who I was voting. 
I don't know what you mean by this tbh
I generally haven't been that proactive because of out of game factors so I think it's reasonable to be concerned about my alignment at this point.
I'm not a terrible lim, though imo Titus should be our pick for today. We should solve the Scorpious/Titus pair asap
I’ll chill.