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Post Post #2125 (ISO) » Mon Aug 20, 2007 9:29 pm

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Not voting: theopor_COD,

With 3 alive it will take just
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Post Post #2126 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:04 am

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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]LOL? I was actually planning to give up on this game because of Panzer's stubbornness and blindness. Let's hope Theo does make the right decision here.

Vote: BM
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rofl. i think its a bit late for that. You've really shown your true colours now, and Theo is well capable of spotting that.
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Post Post #2127 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:36 am

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He sure does. He knows which decision is right.
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Post Post #2128 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2007 1:39 am

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Oh, and BM. I can now officially say you
were
trying to protect the GF. Looks like I've been right all game, whether or not Theo makes the right decision.
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Post Post #2129 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:10 am

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lol yeh, suspect me when it suits you K-Scope. The fact is, my comment from my analysis stands. All game you have been trying to maintain pressure on me, whilst taking occassional breaks to run up townies. You did it with Scot, and even tried it on Panzer, and many more who i cannot be bothered to name. Its so frigging obvious that you are scum, and it has been since early in the game!
Its upto Theo now. If he makes the wrong choice, we deserve to lose...
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Post Post #2130 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:28 pm

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Hi.

I'm back from sunny Cyprus, just spent 16 odd hours travelling with two toddlers, need plenty of alcohol and sleep expect some kind of post tomorrow, this already worries me mind.
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Post Post #2131 (ISO) » Tue Aug 21, 2007 12:33 pm

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In a word . . .

Oh Fuck.

I'll re-read all tomorrow.
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Post Post #2132 (ISO) » Wed Aug 22, 2007 12:23 am

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Battle Mage wrote:lol yeh, suspect me when it suits you K-Scope. The fact is, my comment from my analysis stands. All game you have been trying to maintain pressure on me, whilst taking occassional breaks to run up townies.
You did it with Scot, and even tried it on Panzer, and many more who i cannot be bothered to name.
Its so frigging obvious that you are scum, and it has been since early in the game!
Its upto Theo now. If he makes the wrong choice, we deserve to lose...
Look who's talking. Your scummates attempted several times to lynch, and I'm still standing. Your so called reasons are more twist of words and own interpetations then anything else.

To respond to the bolded part: I was under the impression that there were two scum left. I've always named you as top suspect and named scot as secondary. I've made pretty clear that I rather wanted you dead then scot, but was willing to get a lynch out of him because of being 2 scum left. I was voting panzer today because I felt this game was lost anyway, because of Panzer's tunnel vision.

The "many more" is a nulltell, since there are not many more. You're blowing things out of proportion, and I hope Theo sees that when he's making up his mind.
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Post Post #2133 (ISO) » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:33 am

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Have we got a deadline or not?

I'm glad my notes are pretty conclusive.

More much more tonight.
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Post Post #2134 (ISO) » Wed Aug 22, 2007 1:47 am

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No current deadline.
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Post Post #2135 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:56 pm

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Ok. I haven't forgotten about this but it is taking longer than I expected to sift through everything again. Don't fret chaps.
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Post Post #2136 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2007 9:12 pm

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just for you Scope, i actually looked back to see whether you were telling the truth, and guess what? You weren't. I don't suppose you remember your time on the N9V wagon. I mean, in fairness, it did only span 3 game-days. :roll:
I think my analysis of K-Scope makes todays decision clear. However Theo has expressed favourability towards K-Scope uptill now (probably why Kelly was NKed instead).
I'm intrigued to see what he comes up with anyway.
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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"][quote="Battle Mage"]lol yeh, suspect me when it suits you K-Scope. The fact is, my comment from my analysis stands. All game you have been trying to maintain pressure on me, whilst taking occassional breaks to run up townies.
You did it with Scot, and even tried it on Panzer, and many more who i cannot be bothered to name.
Its so frigging obvious that you are scum, and it has been since early in the game!
Its upto Theo now. If he makes the wrong choice, we deserve to lose...[/quote]Look who's talking. Your scummates attempted several times to lynch, and I'm still standing. Your so called reasons are more twist of words and own interpetations then anything else.

To respond to the bolded part: I was under the impression that there were two scum left. I've always named you as top suspect and named scot as secondary. I've made pretty clear that I rather wanted you dead then scot, but was willing to get a lynch out of him because of being 2 scum left. I was voting panzer today because I felt this game was lost anyway, because of Panzer's tunnel vision.

The "many more" is a nulltell, since there are not many more. You're blowing things out of proportion, and I hope Theo sees that when he's making up his mind.[/quote]
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Post Post #2137 (ISO) » Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:20 pm

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so ~N9V~ is your "many more" now. Congrats
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Post Post #2138 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:49 am

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w/e K-Scope. seriously, your continued arrogance is annoying me now. :x
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Post Post #2139 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2007 7:41 am

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You're feeling that your end is nigh. :P
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Post Post #2140 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:05 am

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I've read both of your posts in isolation. BM's post regards Scope previous page, I'm looking back into - Scope has been pretty convinced on BM all the way through, he hasn't had much curiousity which concerns me, mind BM hasn't really had a wagon of note on him which also concerns me. Scope any chance you could point me in the direction of a completed game with you as scum? Other than that I'm still re-reading the whole thread in entirety and everyone's else opinions.
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Post Post #2141 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2007 10:47 pm

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[quote="KaleiÐoscøpe"]You're feeling that your end is nigh. :P[/quote]

*cough* ^scummy post^ *cough* :P
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Post Post #2142 (ISO) » Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:42 pm

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theopor_COD wrote:I've read both of your posts in isolation. BM's post regards Scope previous page, I'm looking back into - Scope has been pretty convinced on BM all the way through, he hasn't had much curiousity which concerns me, mind BM hasn't really had a wagon of note on him which also concerns me. Scope any chance you could point me in the direction of a completed game with you as scum? Other than that I'm still re-reading the whole thread in entirety and everyone's else opinions.
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4455

This was the only one that comes near it. I've yet to play a whole game as scum on 'scum.
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Post Post #2143 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:19 pm

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theopor_COD wrote:I agree ^^

He does seem to be blending into the background, very passive . . . one other theory with him is the scum tend to like pushing a BM lynch - hasn't happened much this game; maybe due to him actually being scum. More I think about a BM lynch more it appeals. The re-read of him is most important.
In a nutshell this is why I think BM is scum . . .

However the more I think about this game, the more I feel like I'm wavering. I really wish I'd died yonks ago, infact I'm puzzled why I didn't die earlier on . . .

I don't like BM with regards to the Yogurt lynch as Kelly pointed out it seems as if he's eager for Yogurt to do something, throws a couple of FOSs at him and threatens him but doesn't seem sincere.

Scope on the other hand has been so anti-BM all game I don't know what to think about it. The other thing with Scope is he's had wagons on him this game one of which started by known scum after the scum's Godfather had been lynched, with only three of them left this seems awfully strange from Yellow to attack another of his teammates.
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Post Post #2144 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:53 pm

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Page 16.

Twito harps on about Scope for several pages as possible scum suspect . . . then Yellow one of the remaining 3 scum comes along and pushes the Scope wagon, which gets 2 more quick votes. I just don't think scum in this situation with a Godfather down would bus that much with only 3 of em against 17 odd townies.

The second scope wagon on day three includes all known townies aside from BM. Who uses reasoning from the previous day, which at the time felt fair enough. Alko scum offers some support for Scope yet looks to attack if need be
al_kohaulec wrote:But while I'm still reading, would someone care to explain what Ksc0pe did that was so bad?
Doesn't explain what he's found nor does he vote, why not I wonder
al_kohaulec wrote:I see it! :D

And yes, I would like to hear an explanation from sc0pe on this one.
Meh . . I think I'm going to pick wrong. Or do I lol heck knows.

My head says BM is scum, my heart just keeps fluttering between the two. Ultimately though I can't see a scum group of 3 versus 17 town attacking each other like Yellow did Scope page 16 and I'm alarmed by the lack of wagon on BM, which as town would have been expected, he seems to have escaped any real criticism all game and hasn't had much flak thrown at him. Both players left seem to have a lack of curiosity - Scope's been after BM all game and I've seen BM scumhunt much better and more aggressively.

Anyways if I'm wrong then I apologise and I congratulate the victor.

vote BM
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Post Post #2145 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:04 pm

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Post Post #2146 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:13 pm

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Battle Mage was the last
Mafia Goon
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Town wins!
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Post Post #2147 (ISO) » Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:27 pm

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I knew you would make the right decision. I would be so awarding you for a title if you didn't :P

I also find it hilarious I was right about BM defending the GF. Busted! :P
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Post Post #2148 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2007 2:33 am

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Congratulations town.

Sorry BM & The Fonz for flaking on this game.
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Post Post #2149 (ISO) » Tue Aug 28, 2007 3:05 am

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Good job theopor. I'm really not sure I would've made the right decision.

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