Wizards at the Sorcerers' Den - Endgame

SGRaaize · Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:36 pm

What's your win condition?

Vaya · Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:41 pm

I see no reason to share it.

SGRaaize · Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:43 pm

Vote: Vaya

We have no idea if your win condition will collide with ours, its also fairly obvious you're GreyICE's partner, and considering GreyICE has been doing anything in his power to lynch me when I can confirm myself as Town, I have to expect the worst from you two.

I don't see why you wouldn't tell us the Win Condition, if it doesn't collide with us, we don't give a shit, if it does, you're dying. So share and you might live and don't share and you will die.

SGRaaize · Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:46 pm

Also, you're sending us mixed signals

"Fine, lynch me, I don't care"
"Oh, RIGHT, my role has the ability to survive a lynch and give judgement, silly me"
"Well, if you guys want to lynch me, whatever"
"BUT YOU TOTALLY SHOULDN'T, YOU SHOULD BE LYNCHING PEOPLE AGAINST YOUR WINCON"

You're scummy as fuck now, revealing your Win Condition is your only chance at living in this situation

inHimshallibe · Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:52 pm

sunday bloody fucking sunday.

vote: peregrinev

i literally have less shits to give than Cousin Eddie

SGRaaize · Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 5:59 pm

We're not getting anyone else until Vaya claims his WinCon, Jesus Fuck

A Gaggle of Geese · Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:01 pm

nope. she had her chance.

vote vaya

i suspect some form of anti town sk like group, i bet they done katy in.

inHimshallibe · Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:03 pm

so you're saying a GROUP of sk-like individuals?

whatever. i will follow the geese.

unvote
vote: vaya

Baby Spice · Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:03 pm

Vaya, firstly, is it a end the game type of wincon, or similar to the priests wincon from the previous game (ie: point score at the end of the game), and it wouldn't have something to do with loot would it?

A Gaggle of Geese · Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:04 pm

inHimshallibe wrote:so you're saying a GROUP of sk-like individuals?

if she's solo she claims her win con, plus it says group.

i used a 2man sk like group in my most recent large theme, so something like that mebbe.

SGRaaize · Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:05 pm

inHimshallibe wrote:so you're saying a GROUP of sk-like individuals?

It doesn't really seem to fit the "Adventurers" flavor, but it could work like that whole deal on Reckamonic's Legend of Zelda Mafia, with two people forming one single SK

SGRaaize · Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:05 pm

I am 99% positive GreyICE is Vaya's partner.

inHimshallibe · Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:10 pm

A Gaggle of Geese wrote:
inHimshallibe wrote:so you're saying a GROUP of sk-like individuals?

if she's solo she claims her win con, plus it says group.

i used a 2man sk like group in my most recent large theme, so something like that mebbe.

Whooboy, ok I understand better. 2 people is a lot easier to grasp. Group to me sounds like three or more. I accept this explanation.

Vaya can die imo. GreyICE is partner? :3

Vaya · Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Sun Jul 24, 2011 6:27 pm

SGRaaize wrote:Also, you're sending us mixed signals

"Fine, lynch me, I don't care"
"Oh, RIGHT, my role has the ability to survive a lynch and give judgement, silly me"
"Well, if you guys want to lynch me, whatever"
"BUT YOU TOTALLY SHOULDN'T, YOU SHOULD BE LYNCHING PEOPLE AGAINST YOUR WINCON"

You're scummy as fuck now, revealing your Win Condition is your only chance at living in this situation

I've not been giving you mixed signals at all. I'm saying that I personally don't care if I'm killed and don't have to think about this game anymore, but as a bit of advice, it would be stupid of town to prioritize 3rd party over mafia.

And the judgement was not my role, think back to the message we got at the beginning of the day.

Meh, I guess I'll level with you guys, just so you don't go thinking the whole party is your enemy.

Baby Spice wrote:Vaya, firstly, is it a end the game type of wincon, or similar to the priests wincon from the previous game (ie: point score at the end of the game), and it wouldn't have something to do with loot would it?

The point score system you refer to is what we have exactly. Each member of my faction gains points based off of their own personal goal and if we together have enough points at endgame, we win. My goal is something that can be bad for town, so I'm not telling you guys what exactly it is because you may try to get in my way(not that I expect to live at this rate anyway), but not everyone in my faction is at all anti-town. Like GreyICE, who's too obviously aligned with me, is completely harmless and simply gains points based off of the amount of votes he gets over the course of the game by people not in our party.

A Gaggle of Geese wrote:i suspect some form of anti town sk like group, i bet they done katy in.

You keep mentioning SKer's, but how does that make sense in a game where the rules state that either town or scum win? Serious question. Has there been a SK in previous games?

SGRaaize · Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:43 am

Bullshit

GreyICE told us he would win new powers based on the number of votes he got.

inHimshallibe · Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 2:47 am

inHimshallibe wrote:Vaya can die imo. GreyICE is partner? :3

Vaya wrote:Like GreyICE, who's too obviously aligned with me, is completely harmless and simply gains points based off of the amount of votes he gets over the course of the game by people not in our party.

:D

WrathChild · Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:00 am

Since I think anyone with half a brain will figure this out, no point on avoiding this. How about we lynch fucking Wizards!!!!!! Everyone continuing to push Vaya's lynch is obviously scum or dumb. A lynch on Vaya is basically a victory for scum. The people pushing for a Vaya lynch do so because they fear the Adventurer group as a group of Serial Killers. Really? Come on.

Guess what? I'm an adventurer too. I get points for healing and protecting people. I got points last night. We won't be lynching Vaya today.

A Gaggle of Geese · Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:09 am

that's 4 non town people in wc/grey/baby spice

is gandalf in your faction too?

A Gaggle of Geese · Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:10 am

god damn it i hate fucking retarded neutral roles.

A Gaggle of Geese · Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:11 am

and um maybe if you wanted to lynch WIZARDS you should have fucking told us vaya was a harmless derp who we didn't need to waste that on.

er I guess inhim is scum by POE along with peregrine anddddd erm.

SGRaaize · Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:11 am

Three third parties, each of them with win conditions helpful to the Townies?

What happens when one of you gets enough Points? Or is it enough points for all of your faction?

SGRaaize · Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:12 am

And what's up with this whole "Judgement" thingie?

Unvote

SGRaaize · Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:12 am

A Gaggle of Geese wrote:god damn it i hate fucking retarded neutral roles.

A Gaggle of Geese · Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:14 am

well vaya just pretty much just fucking said she's unhelpful/harmful to the town! yet we can't lynch her on day 3 of a large game b/c derp.

SGRaaize · Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Mon Jul 25, 2011 5:14 am

Honestly, I'll wait until the end of this game before giving a final comment, but this setup sounds really fucking retarded
Dozens of people with abilities to clear themselves, masons, neutral parties, a fuckload of semi-vigs

Either we win even if we fuck up all of our lynches or Mafia has completely overpowered roles too, in which case, this is one of those games where the balancing is to try to get each faction as broken as possible.