Mini 953: Star Control: Alliance Initiative (Over)

[Gammagooey]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 6

Players not voting: animorpherv1, bouncy.bouncy, CF Riot, cruelty, Dry-fit, Gammagooey, Kast, Merkabah, Papa Zito, Plum, Porkens

So I'm kind of wondering why I'm out here.
Hammer ability I got I might as well share since it's useless without a ship: All active and racial active abilities energy costs on the ship I'm on get divided by half and rounded down. (1 goes to 0, 3 goes to 1)

Also wondering why the other ship got blown up but there's nobody out here with me, but I'm fine with not knowing if it should be secrets for some reason.

[Porkens]

I didn't get any plum juice

my power is now 0/3


were you on either of those ships gamma?

[Gammagooey]

I thought it was obvious but I was on the Thraddash Torch. Also, for serious about the no energy thing?

Two things
-Mostly at Plum, but if anyone tried to give Porkens energy and it failed they should say so.
-You should get the hammer today unless you want to pick me up.

[Porkens]

I thought it was obvious but I was on the Thraddash Torch. Also, for serious about the no energy thing?

Two things
-Mostly at Plum, but if anyone tried to give Porkens energy and it failed they should say so.
-You should get the hammer today unless you want to pick me up.

Hmm, maybe I'm being retarded, but how was it obvious you were on the Torch?

[Porkens]

I thought it was obvious but I was on the Thraddash Torch. Also, for serious about the no energy thing?

Two things
-Mostly at Plum, but if anyone tried to give Porkens energy and it failed they should say so.
-You should get the hammer today unless you want to pick me up.

Hmm, maybe I'm being retarded, but how was it obvious you were on the Torch?

And yes, serious about the no energy thing. I didn't get any juices.

[Gammagooey]

Well, I thought we had pretty close to the same role PM considering the things you've claimed (breadcrumb of Thraddash, getting an ability on hammer, starting with a ship with 0/3 energy). Maybe not, or maybe you're just testing me for some reason, I dunno.

[Papa Zito]

Gee, thanks RBT.

Anyone learn anything useful last night?

[Porkens]

Yaay for successful breadcrumb. I'll pick you up tonight Gamma.

Voting Block Suggestion:

Gamma
Zito
Porkens
Plum

other inductees?

[Papa Zito]

That's excellent. Not other suggestions atm.

[Gammagooey]

So actually I do have something interesting, I was hoping Plum would respond back to me so I would be sure about her trying to give Porkens energy but I can't think of anything else it would be.

Things I think-
1)That someone took Porkens energy through an ability similar to the Ur-Quan's Launch Fighters from the first Star Control mafia game.
2)Cruelty's unexplained vote on rbt and lack of activity yesterday are fairly scummy.
Things I know-
1) Cruelty targeted Porkens last night
2)Cruelty was on for more than an hour after I asked if anyone failed to give Porkens energy. (posted in Halo mafia)

I'd like the hammer again if you don't mind, but I do believe cruelty is a Very Good Lynch^TM.

[Merkabah]

So I'm kind of wondering why I'm out here.

What do you mean by this?

Also wondering why the other ship got blown up but there's nobody out here with me, but I'm fine with not knowing if it should be secrets for some reason.

This seems the stanger thing to me. Perhaps there are a fleet of unmanned ships that can be accessed if we get blasted into space or something. I don't remember if there was anything like this in the first game. People who were in SC I, any insight?

I think I'm going to hold my info for now (or at least until Amished gets back and I can discuss with him, but I don't think it'd be helpful atm), but I'm definitely looking forward to what cruelty has to say.

[Gammagooey]

Merk-Mostly wondering why exactly would blow up my ship but not kill me. I think the other ship was more likely someone who got teleported away, and there was nobody left on the ship so it exploded.

[Papa Zito]

Merkabah, he's wondering why he's floating in space.

Also, what most likely happened was someone jumped/was pulled from the Avenger to another. Unmanned ships asplode.

[CF Riot]

Although bouncy+Rice might have been a setup trap we just took out.

What does this mean?

So assuming we believe everyone's claims,

• Gamma targeted Cruelty? Porkens?
  Cruelty targeted Porkens
  Plum targeted Porkens
  
  and
  
  Porkens is still in the same ship and alive.
  Gamma lost his ship but is alive and in space.

So the question is, is Cruelty the reason Gamma is in space, and is this a good thing or a bad thing? I take it that Gamma didn't put himself there. Did Cruelty destroy Gamma's ship, and if so why is Gamma alive?

The next issue is who is picking up Gamma tonight? Should we all try? Do we even want to discuss it in thread?

[Merkabah]

Gamma, you ship had energy before it was destroyed right?

[Gammagooey]

@Merk-Nope. 225 will answer your next question if you read it and think REALLY HARD.
@CF- Porkens picks me up tonight, less fishing for whether I tracked cruelty or watched Porkens until after cruelty claims.

[Merkabah]

I don't have a next question. I just wanted to see if you'd contradict yourself. Carry on.

[Gammagooey]

Like you did in Reverb? I'm so touched by your trust.
(if you're not the VPB part of the hydra ignore that)

So since nobody else seems to want to I guess I'll start this off. I'll probably unvote to get the hammer around L-1 or 2. (I'd like to see cruelty at L-2 without my vote, where he's got plenty of votes but can't self-hammer if he gives up to avoid me getting another ability.)

Vote:cruelty

[Papa Zito]

I have no issues with a cruelty lynch atm but I wanted moar info before I start throwing votes around.

[Porkens]

No deal, Gamma, my hammer this time.

[Gammagooey]

I thought you wanted to pick me up instead? Actually you should PM SpyreX and see if both of us having the ability would allow it to stack (aka reducing it by half twice or only once). If it doesn't stack though there's no point in both of us being on the same ship with the same ability.

[Kast]

Checking in.

To be clear on what's been claimed:
-Gamma does not know why he is floating in space (ie. he did not jettison).
--Gamma's ship was the Thraddash Torch.
-Gamma's hammer activated a (pilot) ability which makes the ship he is on operate at lower energy cost.
-Gamma knows that Cruelty targeted Porkens last night.

-Plum claimed to give Porkens energy last night.
-Porkens claims to (still) have no energy.

Thoughts:
-Why is Cruelty targeting Porkens a reason for lynching him?
--Cruelty should post whether he did in fact target Porkens or not. His discretion on claiming further regarding that.
-I was surprised to find my batteries were drained last night.

[Kast]

EBWOP-
It is up to (h)is discretion on claiming further regarding that.

[Dry-fit]

I think Porkens should get the hammer. There's no guarantee Porkens would get the same ability Gamma did. Also, if Gamma gets an ability but it's not a passive ability, he won't be able to use it unless he's piloting a ship.

I agree that cruelty's vote and lurking yesterday was scummy, and targetting Porkens is fairly damning as well.

vote: cruelty

animorpherv is in pretty much the same boat as cruelty to me (except the night result info). Actually animorpherv is slightly worse since he literally didn't provide any content yesterday.

[Gammagooey]

I'm pretty sure Porkens would get the same ability, but I'm up for it if someone else (Plum is probably the next best choice, maaaybe Papa too) wants to pick me up instead of Porkens so we can distribute some awesome around here.
Kast- I'm assuming Plum is telling the truth, because that seems like a really dumb/pointless thing to fake, plus Papa says she's town. Given that, my town read on Porkens, and annoucing that he's 98% town to everyone, the only one with motivation to drain him should be scum. Another person visiting Porkens without giving him energy (as I asked this already when cruelty was on) means IMO that he's probable scum.