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Post Post #2300 (ISO) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:05 pm

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Votecount 4-4

With 4 alive, it will take 3 votes to lynch or no lynch.


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Post Post #2301 (ISO) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:38 pm

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leaning MDT for scum atm but I don't trust myself enough to vote
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Post Post #2302 (ISO) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:04 pm

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Do you want to talk that read over with me
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Post Post #2303 (ISO) » Tue Mar 11, 2014 11:10 pm

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Also it's 2 to no lynch isn't it?
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Post Post #2304 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:06 am

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if wall randomly comes in and votes for a no lynch they are being lynched tomorrow no questions asked ok saki?
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Post Post #2305 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:53 am

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In post 2303, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Also it's 2 to no lynch isn't it?
No. It takes 3 votes to lynch OR nolynch
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Post Post #2306 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:06 am

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In post 2304, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:if wall randomly comes in and votes for a no lynch they are being lynched tomorrow no questions asked ok saki?
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Post Post #2307 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:35 am

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where the fuck is wall
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Post Post #2308 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:02 am

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So basically the only reason to lynch us is the same reason I was thinking earlier that you must be scum: town power blah blah.

But is the town really that powerful? We got a single mislynch and landed in mylo. We've played a pretty good game so far, lynching scum on day 1 and day 3, yet are potentially going to lose. That isn't a strong town.

The two pseudo role-cops are mostly useless: There's only one scum player with an obviously scum role (the roleblocker), and that was only obviously scum because the knight flipped first. Our ability would have failed on half the players, and jason's role was a pseudo-miller to us (which was effective in that it caused us to play suboptimally). There were only three town players with an obviously town role (knight [probably], poison doc
, and vig).

The investigative aspect of our role was weakish, and the entire thing would be even more useless in the hands of scum, unless we copied the vig for an extra nightkill. Of course, we didn't copy the vig, because (dun dun dunnnnn) we're town.

The vig is definitely a potent town role, had they shot at scum. In terms of the overall setup, though, the vig is negative utility since one of the scum was NK immune. The "masons" are only sort of masons, because they're also lovers, which makes the slots more akin to having a double-voter, but one fewer player. The IC aspect of it is useless, since revealing themselves guarantees they both die, and there are absolutely no protective roles to save them.

The town power just isn't as great as it seems, and it's weaker still once people start saying "oo, we're so strong, there's no way that vanilla guy could be scum." Do you really think Cabd of all people wouldn't mess with us like that? I don't know if you talked to him at all during the "night," but he was definitely having fun trolling our neighborhood QT. [We've continued to use the empty neighborhood as our hydra chat, since I don't really like skype much]
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Post Post #2309 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:26 am

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It's also possible that the Duke is a universal godfather of some sort, idk.
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Post Post #2310 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:58 am

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In post 2300, Yulia Jue wrote:
Votecount 4-4

With 4 alive, it will take 3 votes to lynch or no lynch.


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Post Post #2311 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:09 pm

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Uh, so I feel awkward because I've only read the first 500 posts of this game.

How is this game in mylo (lylo)?

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Post Post #2312 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:48 pm

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Cross vote please
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Post Post #2313 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:50 pm

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In post 2284, Moogle Dance Troupe wrote:Also, I don't bus. Check the mafia QT in micro 291.
I don't either, you know. (Well, I
can
. But mostly? I don't.) I'd wager orc's not a powerbusser, either. For it to be a valid point, there needs to be someone it doesn't apply to. :P
In post 2286, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Wall you have 1 day from this post to do whatever you want. I don't want to waste anymore time on a game I think I might've already lost
What I want to do is analyze this game and conclude firmly that MDT is scum. Want. I'll get some, but not all of that. I'll do some analysis, but not as much as I prefer. I will likely find MDT to be more likely scum, but won't be sure, especially fearing confbias.
In post 2301, Saki wrote:leaning MDT for scum atm but I don't trust myself enough to vote
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In post 2307, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:where the fuck is wall
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Basically: school. This is the last week of normal class, where there's a bunch. Next week's finals, and my grades are such that I need every point to pass my classes. I haven't forgotten, though. I'm not lurking. I'll be around later tonight.
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Post Post #2314 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:51 pm

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In post 2312, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Cross vote please
Maybe later.
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Post Post #2315 (ISO) » Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:27 pm

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Hurry up, your night has passed already. I will honestly deadline lynch you for lurking

And I am such a powerbusser lategame what are you talking about
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Post Post #2316 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 7:58 am

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Apologies. I stayed up late, but I took care of some personal manners last night (explained in the speakeasy, if you have access, there), and was otherwise preoccupied.

But I didn't realize deadline was so close.

I'll vote tonight if I don't get the chance to analyze, but I have a LOT of free time this night, so I should do so then.
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Post Post #2317 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:56 pm

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Is writing paragraph-long excuses of why he couldn't post something mastin does often?

can't wrap my head around writing a long excuse for something
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Post Post #2318 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 8:08 pm

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In post 2317, Saki wrote:Is writing paragraph-long excuses of why he couldn't post something mastin does often?
It's quite literally how I trudge my way through life. I'm basically a massive con artist. (Not really, but that's how I feel on a daily basis.) I enter into long-winded explanations, as I hone in on what my target wants, and then deliver (by picking up on their cues) the excuse I need to save my skin.

But gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.

I'm here.
Logged in.
I scheduled tomorrow such that I can stay up for another two hours.
Doing analysis. Right here. Right now. Should be.

...Yet there's a mental block in my brain, really, really strongly keeping me from doing anything, and it sucks. It really, really does.

Vote: Moogle Dance Troupe
, since I promised a vote tonight. And that IS where I lean. So if the town loses because of this lack of analysis, I'll take 100% of the blame.
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Post Post #2319 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:47 pm

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I buy exactly none of your bullshit

Congratulations you've managed to sway me from a 80% scumread

Saki, we need to talk
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Post Post #2320 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 9:50 pm

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Actually just fuck you mastin.

VOTE: wall
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Post Post #2321 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:02 pm

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UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2322 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:05 pm

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Saki and MTD put your votes on wall

If mastin doesn't post something of actual value before deadline, then I will lynch him

If he does, ill probably no-lynch, but we'll see what happens in that case

I don't entirely trust saki with being on at deadline
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Post Post #2323 (ISO) » Thu Mar 13, 2014 10:46 pm

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VOTE: wall
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Post Post #2324 (ISO) » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:42 am

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In post 2322, orcinus_theoriginal wrote:Saki and MTD put your votes on wall

If mastin doesn't post something of actual value before deadline, then I will lynch him
Two can play that game.
UNVOTE: Moogle Dance Troupe.

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