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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:04 pm

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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:36 pm

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hi

ive been scumpartners with the bulge so can sort there.
i have a rough idea of how tgp plays.
tbh tgp's mechspeak was near verbatim to isis'. 22 was very verbose but most of it didn't further the game anyhow imo
bulge's play seems decently bold/direct which contrasts from scum!him a bit
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:49 pm

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In post 20, Isis wrote:
In post 13, The Bulge wrote:we can lose Day 1 if we miselim. we can't lose Day 1 if we hang scum.
VOTE: Isis
You know that doesn't necessarily transfer to overall win chances, right?
sure, but I don't think shelly realized that and nobody else mentioned the possibility. we shouldn't aim for town today because all we'd essentially be trading for is the ability to elect our own conftown. it's a risky move for little gain, and wasting a crucial day townhunting doesnt leave us with much momentum for day 2.
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:51 pm

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VOTE: tgp
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:51 pm

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How much testing do you have on sorting someone after you've rolled scum with them? I'm usually less confident than when I've rolled town against their scum, to paraphrase Datisi meta based on an informed position can function differently.

I agree doesn't further the game much and thought so when I read it, but is it malicious IioA?

The Bulge has not posted much and due to the nature of this setup I don't think I can actually sheep a townread on him since at least one of you is scum. This setup is funky.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:52 pm

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I guess I should have quoted the post I was responding to since Bulge ninja'd me.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:54 pm

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I was gonna call shelly for trying to get a meta read off of like 2 posts but it doesnt seem conclusive at all and I agree with her point about tgp
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:57 pm

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In post 29, Isis wrote:How much testing do you have on sorting someone after you've rolled scum with them? I'm usually less confident than when I've rolled town against their scum, to paraphrase Datisi meta based on an informed position can function differently.
not much tbh

its not conclusive yet as well

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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 5:58 pm

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In post 29, Isis wrote:but is it malicious IioA?
anything that doesn't further the game is iioa. iioa itself is nai but when we're at a stage of the game that we need to push the game forward from rvs/whatever fluffposting and iioa is proscum
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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:07 pm

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I'm heavily getting the impression that shelly/bulge are different alignments atm, and out of the two i'm leaning more heavily on the former being town
however, that implies isis is scum! VOTE: isis
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:09 pm

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In post 33, shellyc wrote:iioa itself is nai
NO

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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:09 pm

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In post 34, TheGoldenParadox wrote:I'm heavily getting the impression that shelly/bulge are different alignments atm, and out of the two i'm leaning more heavily on the former being town
however, that implies isis is scum! VOTE: isis
sorry whiteknight attempt DENIED

why are bulge/me diff alignments tho?
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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:11 pm

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In post 28, The Bulge wrote:VOTE: tgp
In post 32, shellyc wrote:
In post 29, Isis wrote:How much testing do you have on sorting someone after you've rolled scum with them? I'm usually less confident than when I've rolled town against their scum, to paraphrase Datisi meta based on an informed position can function differently.
not much tbh

its not conclusive yet as well

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i don't see these posts likely to come together from scum
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:12 pm

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really though, I think IioA is generally scummy as a default, but there are valid exceptions you can apply where it's not. I do think if you pulled up a random completed normal and tallied IioA and ignored context and guessed scum based on it, you'll do better than rand.


I don't follow the parity cop result on shelly/bulge, should it be obvious to me?

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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:15 pm

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TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 28, The Bulge wrote:VOTE: tgp
In post 32, shellyc wrote:
In post 29, Isis wrote:How much testing do you have on sorting someone after you've rolled scum with them? I'm usually less confident than when I've rolled town against their scum, to paraphrase Datisi meta based on an informed position can function differently.
not much tbh

its not conclusive yet as well

VOTE: TGP
i don't see these posts likely to come together from scum
I can see town/town making these posts to pressure you. i agree s/s here on flashwagon doesnt make sense but you convienently left out the part where you said we are *different alignments* which doesnt explain why we cant be t/t
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:16 pm

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hmm maybe the way they both switched from you onto me is a wifom gambit i can see scumshelly doing that
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:16 pm

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In post 38, Isis wrote:really though, I think IioA is generally scummy as a default, but there are valid exceptions you can apply where it's not. I do think if you pulled up a random completed normal and tallied IioA and ignored context and guessed scum based on it, you'll do better than rand.
isis do you think what tgp is doing is an exception or do you see the scumminess as well?
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:16 pm

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In post 39, shellyc wrote:
TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 28, The Bulge wrote:VOTE: tgp
In post 32, shellyc wrote:
In post 29, Isis wrote:How much testing do you have on sorting someone after you've rolled scum with them? I'm usually less confident than when I've rolled town against their scum, to paraphrase Datisi meta based on an informed position can function differently.
not much tbh

its not conclusive yet as well

VOTE: TGP
i don't see these posts likely to come together from scum
I can see town/town making these posts to pressure you. i agree s/s here on flashwagon doesnt make sense but you convienently left out the part where you said we are *different alignments* which doesnt explain why we cant be t/t
you can't be t/t because i'm town
is this a scumslip
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:17 pm

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In post 40, TheGoldenParadox wrote:hmm maybe the way they both switched from you onto me is a wifom gambit i can see scumshelly doing that
LOL so you end up walking in circles back to start

5 minutes ago: shelly is town
5 mins later: oh its wifom

why did you call me town in the first place btw
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:18 pm

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as the most likely player here to be misexecuted in elo, maybe i should selfhammer at some point
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:18 pm

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In post 42, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 39, shellyc wrote:
TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 28, The Bulge wrote:VOTE: tgp
In post 32, shellyc wrote:
In post 29, Isis wrote:How much testing do you have on sorting someone after you've rolled scum with them? I'm usually less confident than when I've rolled town against their scum, to paraphrase Datisi meta based on an informed position can function differently.
not much tbh

its not conclusive yet as well

VOTE: TGP
i don't see these posts likely to come together from scum
I can see town/town making these posts to pressure you. i agree s/s here on flashwagon doesnt make sense but you convienently left out the part where you said we are *different alignments* which doesnt explain why we cant be t/t
you can't be t/t because i'm town
is this a scumslip
how is it a scumslip?
fmpov i don't know if you're town.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:18 pm

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In post 43, shellyc wrote:
In post 40, TheGoldenParadox wrote:hmm maybe the way they both switched from you onto me is a wifom gambit i can see scumshelly doing that
LOL so you end up walking in circles back to start

5 minutes ago: shelly is town
5 mins later: oh its wifom

why did you call me town in the first place btw
looked s/t at first glance with a bias towards you being town but hm
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:19 pm

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In post 46, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 43, shellyc wrote:
In post 40, TheGoldenParadox wrote:hmm maybe the way they both switched from you onto me is a wifom gambit i can see scumshelly doing that
LOL so you end up walking in circles back to start

5 minutes ago: shelly is town
5 mins later: oh its wifom

why did you call me town in the first place btw
looked s/t at first glance with a bias towards you being town but hm
why was the bias there?
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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:19 pm

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In post 45, shellyc wrote:
In post 42, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 39, shellyc wrote:
TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 28, The Bulge wrote:VOTE: tgp
In post 32, shellyc wrote:
In post 29, Isis wrote:How much testing do you have on sorting someone after you've rolled scum with them? I'm usually less confident than when I've rolled town against their scum, to paraphrase Datisi meta based on an informed position can function differently.
not much tbh

its not conclusive yet as well

VOTE: TGP
i don't see these posts likely to come together from scum
I can see town/town making these posts to pressure you. i agree s/s here on flashwagon doesnt make sense but you convienently left out the part where you said we are *different alignments* which doesnt explain why we cant be t/t
you can't be t/t because i'm town
is this a scumslip
how is it a scumslip?
fmpov i don't know if you're town.
i mean okay but the fact that it's not t/t is kind of given
ya think i'm scum with isis?
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Wed Nov 04, 2020 6:20 pm

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sorry im dumb i just realised from tgp!town's pov me/bulge contains at least 1 scum
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