[Carl] Weird Dreams Mafia

[Radical Rat]

Based on your draft, I agree with the Porkens vote

[biancospino]

Can you get me up to speed in the broad strokes?

Not entirely, but, most notable things:

• a wild Porkens appeared with a bare readlist which had Ranger, us and Kyoko near the bottom. When asked why, specifically wrt Ranger, they said that Ranger's style is one that would be easy for scum to imitate (despite being around the mark of what her posting style just is in general). This triggered a Porkens/Ranger thing, some other players also commented on it. Porkens has been throwing around quite some buzzwords in their first posts.
  
• Clone came back just to prodge and to say some fluff. The prodge itself is devoid of actual game reads and it's topped off with an omgus vote.
  
• MT has been forcefully confirmed into the Nightmare by Drew, using a Day action submitted privately.
  
• Meg has noted that Imaginality usage of the phrase "more powerful than a nightmare" is stilted and may be a Traitor crumb. This theory isn't getting much love.
  
• Gimli softed, extremely heavy-handedly, that he can resolve himself by "going boom", but doesn't want to give details; and so we should vote somewhere else.
  
• There is a weird Imaginality/Enchant interaction. Basically Ench asks a question, Imaginality skips it, Ench uses that to justify an Imag vote. Idk what's about it.
  
• Drew is being wagoned, frankly for weak reasons. He did make a post to resent it, which does indeed comes across as AtE-y. Personally I just think it's frustation, I wouldn't put much faith that it's AI.
  
• DE is putting forth quite some effort, doing ISO walls and whatnot. It's either town or scum pretending to be operous, but it's quite proactive.

[Botanical Rat]

Oh, and there's a Enchant/Ranger thing going. Appartently, Ranger thinks Enchants is playing like in Gnosia, and sr'd him for that reason, but then Enchant told that he was actually town in Gnosia and Ranger then reevaluated her sr

[biancospino]

Eh, I keep altslipping.

DRAFTING.

Meg

[...]

112 and 268 from Meg are bad (both wishywashy fencesitty stuff) and if I wasn't still happy voting TemporalLich I'd probably be voting Meg instead.

Oh and I see Meg's fishing as well... yeah, VOTE: MegAzumarill

(P-edit: random fact of the day: the [post] tag only seems to work with 'post' written in lower case.)

Define fishing

Because the implication here is that you are saying its an intentional role signal in which case your response makes about 0 sense. If it isn't I'd like at least some explanation.

I do see where Meg is going with this, but I'd rather it be spelled explicitly. Is it that you consider {Imaginality's interpreting you noticing that potential "Nightmare" crumb as fishing} alone confirming to you that it is indeed a crumb?
I don't agree, but I do like you making the observation.

HURT: MegA, Porkens, Ranger,

Interested what people think about the possible Imaginality signaling.

This is the first time I think the nigthmare issue has been brought up at all. The incriminated post is quoted in full in the post immediately after, but there is no immediate explanation as to what that signaling is exactly until DE asked. So Meg clearly believed that just by directing attention to that post what was wrong with it would be immediately obvious, which I don't think is the state of mind of a scum attempting to throw shade, in that case I'd expect the explanation that came in #594 to come umprompted toghether with #589.
Do note that Meg has Imaginality on the spotlight since before referring to the crumb situation, specifically #268+

Not really sure how to parse imaginalities opening here because it feels very forceful and I don't think scum would draw that attention to themselves but also I don't think town has reason to do that.

I mean it feels like making a mountain out of a common occurence (discussing RVS) and making a read purely off of that feels a bit unnatural

, so it would make sense for Meg to be keeping an eye on that slot specifically.


HURT: Rat, Ranger, Meg

I dont think saying "I don't think I'm

being

disingenuous" is any meaningfully different from "I'm not trying to read you in bad faith".

Yeah, I also wouldn't, but that's because I don't personally define disingenuity in such a way to necessitate ill intent. The problem is it being accosted with Porkens' 566 where they spelt out that it does the way they understand the word. One could feasibly be intellecutally dishonest without doing so intentionally; one could not act with ill intent unknowingly

[Botanical Rat]

Ok. Night actions.

@mod, can we choose which fruit we sell?

[biancospino]

TL wants to give FN to Drew. This would completely ruin any chance to shade Drew after N2 unless something horrible happens, and since a big part of my lingering suspicions on TL were due to them potentially trying to chainlim Clone and Drew, in my mind this removes some scumpoints from TL. They're probably just town.

[Korina]

You may specify a piece of fruit, but I do not guarantee they’ll be informed it’s *that* fruit in specific.

[biancospino]

Placeholder action until we actually figure out something meaningful to do

Vend Strawberry to Gimli

[Radical Rat]

Okay, I'm mostly back. Will get posting later today

[Radical Rat]

Thanks for holding down the fort

[Botanical Rat]

Sorry for disappearing from the Nighmare, I'm a bit tied up atm.

You said you would be back soon; is everything allright? I'll wait a bit, but if you have no objections I'm probably just going to vote for vig to Gimli; but frankly I don't really have the time to actually read all the Nighmare discussion carefully or seriously comment on it which may not be ideal

[biancospino]

^wow, juggling more than one account without goofing is harder than I thought...

[Radical Rat]

Yeah, I got back from vacation, then turns out I got COVID again, but I'm mostly okay now. Sorry to have left you alone so long, I'll be stepping it up now

[Radical Rat]

Oh right, the fruit. Yeah I'm fine with giving it to Gimli

[Radical Rat]

Porkens has got to go I think

[Radical Rat]

A strange thought:

Doctor Drew was publicly asking to be culted.
It's a Korina game, so a cult's existence is far likelier than normal.
TemporalLich opens up today with a green check on Drew.

It's honestly probably nothing... but it does so capture my imagination...

[biancospino]

Sorry, just came back and saw... that. Not ideal.

For what it's worth, I don't really think the cult!Drew idea holds much water frankly; note how TL was indeed campaigning to give FN to Drew at the beginning of the Nightmare, so they were not thinking to cult them, at least not unless they later changed idea. From what you noted, the more likely conclusion I would draw is that

Drew

may be a CL and culted TL.

Anyway, sorry I couldn't be more present, if the game gets called I hope we can do this again at some point in the future.

[Radical Rat]

Yeah, sorry I wasn't able to be around more for the beginning either.

[biancospino]

No redactions from me