[Review PT] Weird Dreams Mafia Redux
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I'm a little too drunk to do it at the moment, but I'll take a crack at clears/guilties and interactions tomorrow.This is a Parachute.-
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nahhhh all g, i am stoned out of my mind.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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I’ll try to post role pms later todayGTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Jingle For Whom the Bell Trolls
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A few new questions. Do runners show up as being able to communicate while they're running? I would assume the answer is yes, but you may want to specifically exclude that.
Does cult recruit or TA resolve first? (If a player is recruited to the cult the same night as they are investigated for their ability to speak with people, do they show up as being able to talk to the mentor?)
If a passive invention is chosen by the nightmare, does it still resolve at daystart or is it given immediately? Specifically, can a 1shot bp be given that would stop kills that night?This is a Parachute.-
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Korina TheyRecruiterThey
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1) Runners give a positive to the TA when in the PT. Notably, when the night ends, if that's the only reason a TA gets a positive, unless they take the neighborhood power, the TA will get a negative again.
2) Cult resolves after a TA check goes through in my mind, but I could agree to it resolving *before* the TA goes through. The only reason why I say after is because in my mind, this player has no communication with them until daystart, and therefore a TA wouldn't see that until daystart. Any other investigatives, I think are fine to see the cult happen before.
3) Passives are awarded immediately at the beginning of night, and would be given to a player at that time, meaning a 1-shot bp invention could stop a kill that night.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Jingle For Whom the Bell Trolls
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Just to clarify do you mean that they would receive a result of yes, then a result of no at daystart, based on one target or that if they targeted them again they would receive a result of no since they no longer had a means of communication?In post 29, Korina wrote: 1) Runners give a positive to the TA when in the PT. Notably, when the night ends, if that's the only reason a TA gets a positive, unless they take the neighborhood power, the TA will get a negative again.
I don't see any egregious interactions or problems and the balance seems within acceptable limits to me.
I'd definitely let your players know its a swingy and bastard setup, with the caveat that all information provided in role PMs and the OP is correct.This is a Parachute.-
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Korina TheyRecruiterThey
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TA checks someone in the nightmare on n1, would return a positive, since they had access to the PT that night.
Ta checks them again N2, and they have another PT: still positive, due to having that other PT.
TA checks again N2 and they have no other PTs: negative result, due to nightmare being the positive result.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Korina TheyRecruiterThey
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Also, I’ll post PMs tonight or tomorrow so y’all can look at the explicit wording for everyone.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Korina TheyRecruiterThey
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Spoiler: LiminalOddityPM
Spoiler: Sample Mentee PM
Spoiler: SunlightActressPM
Spoiler: DarkMiasmaPM
Spoiler: GrandOleOnePM
Spoiler: NightmareTraitorPM
Spoiler: VoidfiendTraitorPM
Spoiler: VoidfiendDoctorPM
Spoiler: VoidfiendVigilantePM
Spoiler: CarlOlderPM
Spoiler: FinalDreamerPM
Spoiler: LostDragonCorpsePM
Spoiler: BackroomsDesignerPM
Spoiler: FaceTraderPM
Spoiler: AreiPM
Spoiler: TheGreatUnknownPM
Spoiler: FacelessJuryPM
Spoiler: ShadowManPM
Spoiler: SCPCheerleaderPM
Spoiler: EricPMLast edited by Korina on Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:11 pm, edited 5 times in total.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Korina TheyRecruiterThey
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I did three changes in these:
1) Final Dreamer cannot give any cop/cop-like roles, is limited to two total of any tracker/watcher/follower/etc like roles, and cannot award the same role/modifier twice in a row.
2) I changed Face Trader's cop to a tracker so it feels like Grand Ole One does *something* at least once with Ninja.
3) I gave the UB informed, and told them certain roles in the game are unique and cannot be obtained by them. This changes nothing in the game, but I feel like it's a little better for them to know ahead of time they can't be *every* role in the game.Last edited by Korina on Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:24 pm, edited 1 time in total.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Korina TheyRecruiterThey
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I think leaving the nightmare invention pool open is acceptable as well.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Korina TheyRecruiterThey
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Also feedbacks:
Alignment Cop: Your target is aligned with/The Good Dreams/The Horrible DreamsThe Liminal Space
Day Traitor Cop: Your target is/Not A TraitorA Traitor
Announcing Strongwilled Jailkeeper: Last night, a Strongwilled Jailkeeper targeted you!
Watcher: Last night PLAYERNAME(S) visited your target!/Last night, nobody visited your target!/No result.
Role Prophet: Feedback is posted as: Last night I saw in a dream that PLAYERNAME was X.
Role Cop: Your target isROLENAME.
Carl's Older Brother PMs:
Last night, you were targeted by Carl's Older Brother!
Last night, you were targeted by a Mailman!
Last night, you were given the following message: MESSAGE.
Lost Dragon Corpse: The barriers between the living and the dead part momentarily! You may commune with PLAYERNAME until daystart in the PT located HERE.
Backrooms Designer: Last night you clipped out of reality and intoThe Backrooms, a neighborhood with BACKROOMSDESIGNER, (ad infinum player names)
Tracker: Last night, your target visited PLAYERNAME/Last night, your target did not visit/No result.
Absorber: Last night, you successfully absorbed ABILITY from your target!
Great Unknown: You have successfully obtained two copies of ABILITY from PLAYERNAME. Your new role PM is as follows: [role pm]
Faceless Jury: [Posted in thread] Through unknown means, PLAYERNAME was forcibly added to the list of players running the nightmare tonight.
SCP Cheerleader: During the day, you found an anomalous note that started playing the sounds from a high school pep rally! You can taketwoactions tonight. They can be the same action twice, or two different actions. If you possess a factional ability, (like a factional kill), you cannot perform it twice.
Eric: Your target/Cannot CommunicateCan Communicate
Nightmare Runners: You are Running The Nightmare tonight. Your fellow runners are PLAYERNAMES. Good luck Running, you'll need it.
Nightmare Award: Last night, the Runners awarded you the following ability: ABILITY.
Kills are indistinguishable. All kills appear as:
Last night, PLAYERNAME was killed. They were a ROLENAME.GTKAS:The most recent one and the only one that actually matters. | ROOMS HAVE AIR ~ Who | Not_Mafia did not submit a naive cop action. big mistake there tbh ~ xyzzy
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Jingle For Whom the Bell Trolls
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I do think you should get rid of the Whiteflag on the traitors, because as it is it's impossible for their traitor wincon to trigger. The fact that the town traitor can out and take the scum traitor down as well as the fact that the traitors can kill should mean the reason traitors normally whiteflag is irrelevant anyway (long gamestates where their victory is functionally impossible).
The sample mentee PM saying [and now aligned] instead of [and aligned] is redundant and a little awkward, but doesn't need to be fixed because it's still clear what you mean.
Otherwise, everything looks good to go.This is a Parachute.-
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I finished reading now.
I somewhat agree with Jingle on the White Flag thing.
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