Last Will Mafia II (Over)

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

Ythan (3) - Nachomamma8, Rhinox
kunkstar7 (1) - Locke Lamora
Holycon (1) - kunkstar7

Not Voting (18) - holycon, kmd4390, Ythan, esurospiritus, Battosuai

With 23 votes in play it takes 12 to lynch
50 hours to deadline, 10PM PST Tuesday

[Locke Lamora]

Batt: I just don't feel like Holy's got a scum agenda. She's been infuriating me all game and a large amount of what she's said has basically been nonsensical. She's been far less logical and coherent than Kunk and it reads like she's putting far less thought into who she targets and why. I think it's anti-town and confused play, but I don't think she's scum.

[Kmd4390]

I would rather hold a Batt lynch until we see a Ythan flip.

I don't even see how Batt and Ythan have much of anything to do with each other's alignments.

[Kmd4390]

Also, Ythan, if you are town, I hope you realize that not using your ability probably means I am dying and I don't really have any confident town reads. I don't want to give 9 votes to scum.

[Rhinox]

alright, sort of mostly back.

so, nothing at all happened while I was gone.

holy, esurio, and Batt need to be voting now! there is no reason not to. No one is getting lynched unless KMD or Ythan puts their votes there. It would be nice to know who you 3 want to lynch.

[Battousai]

I did vote ythan earlier, however the mod must have missed it. But I'll unvote now anyways

There is, however, reason not to vote. That reason is that voting is pointless as the only people who can manage a wagon would be kmd or ythan (in which case, a ythan led wagon would contain scum due to the numbers needed and would be suspect). You should know who I think is scum if you've payed attention this game (of my suspects, those that are alive are kmd, followed by kunk, rhinox, ythan, and holy). Since kmd will not be lynched, nor would ythan since kmd is not willing to vote him, that leaves kunk, you (rhinox), and holy. Now of the available options, I'm not as positive on those that are left. So, I'll fall back on the person I feel is most likely scum, as I'd rather be voting for someone who isn't likely to be lynched if I feel they are scum over someone who I'm iffy on, that is likely to be lynched.

unvote
Vote: Kmd

[Nachomamma8]

Batt, do you have reason to believe that there are two scumteams?

[Kmd4390]

Batt, if this were LYLO and I were scum, id have hammered ythan already unless he was my scumbuddy in which case the game would be over by now.

[kunkstar7]

There is truth in the fact that a lynch is not going to happen unless KMD and Ythan put their votes down, so it would be helpful to the rest of us if both of you at least said who your were going to put your votes out on, especially with < 24 hours at this point.

[Kmd4390]

Vote Kunk

[kunkstar7]

AWESOME DAYKILL OF VENGEANCE: KMD4390.

Headshot.

[kunkstar7]

That'd be a horrible OMGUS. Meh, so what does Ythan think?

[Nachomamma8]

Okay, Ythan.
Hammer your scumbuddy now.

[Kmd4390]

Nacho, if you vote him, anyone can hammer.

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote, vote: kunk

[LlamaFluff]

You all sit around talking about who is responsable for all of the crimes. When kunkstar seems to finally snap, pulls out a gun and fires off a shot. After wrestling it away from him, you survey the extent of the damage

kmd4390 - Vanilla Townie - Killed Day Eight

A look through his will find that his votes have been left to Locke Lamora, who now has ten votes.

You all agree that in the wake of all the commotion, you may need to spend a little more time figure out what is really happening

Deadline is now Thursday December 2nd, 10PM PST
With 23 votes it play it still takes 12 to lynch

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Not Voting (23) - kunkstar7, Locke Lamora, holycon, rhinox, Battosuai, esuriospiritus, Ythan, Nachomamma8

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: kunk

[holycon]

VOTE: KRUNK I think at this point this is a no brainer

[Locke Lamora]

Good call, KMD. I'll wait a bit before getting rid of Kunk just so you can all be sure I'm town and everyone can readjust their reads accordingly.

Batt: can you explain why Kunk appears on your scumlist and why you decided to vote someone who was almost certainly town?

[Battousai]

If you read my post a bit more carefully. I voted for someone who I thought was scum over people who I thought were iffy (I only had kmd listed as scum, with neutral-scum for the others). And yes, there is a chance that there are two scum teams, which is why I did not eliminate Kmd from being town (though his town play this game has been horrible compared to what I've seen before, IMO).

The fact that kunk did not use his ability on holy, who he was "trying to get lynched" seems to me to say that Kunk is scum. Now holy... he could have been distancing himself from her in case he was killed (which would be probable, seeing as he probably planned on going out with "a bang"). Not sure on that, and will get more into that tomorrow.

Vote: Kunk

[esuriospiritus]

The fact that kunk did not use his ability on holy, who he was "trying to get lynched" seems to me to say that Kunk is scum.

Now, I don't care whether you think Batt is scum or not, you have to admit the man has a point.

/unabashed logic piggybacking

Vote: Kunk

[Locke Lamora]

Actually, I think you're both totally missing the point, and are scum, but the end result is the same. If you think Kunk made the kill, the far more obvious reason that Kunk is scum is

he claimed vanilla townie

. Last time I checked, they don't get daykills.

Batt: you had Kunk on your scumlist before KMD was shot, so I don't see how that's relevant to your read on him before the last 24 hours. Incidentally, if there are two scumteams, I think town is screwed and was most likely screwed even before KMD's death.

[Battousai]

Locke- What are you trying to get at? You asked why I voted KMD over kunk (barring your wording of obvtown), and I answered you. In fact I'll answer you again. The simple fact is that I was more certain of KMD, and I voted based on it. I did not have kunk on my scumlist. I had him neutral scum. That is just the middle of the spectrum,

leaning

scum. Why in the fuck would I vote someone who I think is leaning scum over someone I feel is obvscum?

The fact I brought up holy in my reasoning was to segway into the WIFOM of Kunk's vote on holy.

[Locke Lamora]

So neutral scum meant you didn't have anything against Kunk (or Amished, for that matter)? I thought they were players you had a semi-scum read on but not as scummy as KMD. I phrased those questions badly, though; my question about KMD should have been independent from the one about Kunk. I'll rephrase: I want to know why you included Kunk as leaning scum.

[Rhinox]

unvote

so kunk is clearly scum then, I guess.

Anything to discuss before lynching? Not voting yet because my two votes would put ythan in hammer range.