Succession Mafia II: OVER!

[Bunnylover]

The only plausible explanation for why a person would lie about his role is because he/she was a night zero recruit and therefore never received a town pm. But even then, their is still a possibility that our mod gave everyone a town pm, then sent out the night zero recruit pms.

what about someone that got a vanilla town PM and then got recruited?

They would still have to be notified that they got recruited and therefore still have that "Town VT" pm.

[populartajo]

The only plausible explanation for why a person would lie about his role is because he/she was a night zero recruit and therefore never received a town pm. But even then, their is still a possibility that our mod gave everyone a town pm, then sent out the night zero recruit pms.

what about someone that got a vanilla town PM and then got recruited?

They would still have to be notified that they got recruited and therefore still have that "Town VT" pm.

my point is that what is preventing a recruited vanilla townie to fakeclaim doctor to avoid lynch...

[Battousai]

Personally, I think he was intentionally vague when claiming and that is why he is scum. I also think he embellished his role a bit to appear stronger so town would keep him around.

[bvoigt]

I've given up on Cobbler because, the fact is, he had no chance of being recruited after that Day 1.

But your whole premise of voting him day one was that you thought he got RECRUITED night zero, thus, if you thought he was cult then, it makes no sense why you don't think he is cult anymore.

Let's face it: Day 1 scumhunting is not that accurate. It makes more sense to go after Darox, or ConSpiracy, or Zdenek, who might have been recruited at any point during the game.

[Darox]

Actually, additional note, my role specifies violence done in the name of evil.

So, there's that.

So you don't prevent town-vig kills? Have you asked for mod clarification?
There may be a way to use this to our advantage (ie. confirm that the vig is protown).

So as I expected, Flay has told me I don't get to know, so I'm going to go with the assumption that the 'evil' part refers to the more liberal interpretation of all killing being evil rather than being any kind of gameplay mechanic.

Personally, I think he was intentionally vague when claiming and that is why he is scum. I also think he embellished his role a bit to appear stronger so town would keep him around.

Man, you try claiming this role and not sounding vague. It's pretty vague to me and I've got the role PM.

[populartajo]

ok, I CANT DEAL WITH THIS SHIT ANYMORE

First things first:

If only my ability hadn't failed on DGB N1.

HOW DID YOU KNOW YOUR ABILITY FAILED ON DGB N1 IF YOU ARE A DOCTOR?

I'm thinking this over. If we have enough unrecruitable people claim, and heord investigates each of them down the line to confirm, and we start speedlynching and vigging through the list of non-unrecruitable people, (with other power roles helping out town), does town auto-win?

No, because the unrecruitable people start dying

seems DAROX ISNT CONSIDERING BEING THE DOCTOR THAT COULD PROTECT UNRECRUITABLE PEOPLE

WANT TO KNOW WHY?

BECAUSE HE IS NOT A FUCKING DOCTOR, GOD

I'm a protective role.
I am a great big manly man

WTF IS THIS SHIT ROLE? GREAT BIG MANLY MAN?

If I see any danger, I leap out and give the aggressor a sound thumping, protecting my ward.

what is this danger that you called VIOLENCE in your next post? WHY IS THIS CLAIM SO VAGUE?
hint: ITS FAKE.

Reason to protect DGB N1 despite of Tanarin suspecting her:

But he goes for DGB because she looks like she's got a whole family of aces embezzled in her sleeve and Tanarin likes to live dangerously.

WTF IS THIS CRAP?

[Zdenek]

HOW DID YOU KNOW YOUR ABILITY FAILED ON DGB N1 IF YOU ARE A DOCTOR?

This is a great point, and ruins any thoughts that I had that Darox could be town. It looks like he is just making things up.

Unvote
Vote Darox

[populartajo]

I don't feel great about the Darox wagon - call it gut. I thought Tanarin was scummy, but as I read the game, I find it harder to believe that he was recruited.

Of the other wagons, I'd be willing to vote for Tajo.

YOU DIDNT ANSWER WHAT PARTS OF THE GAME THAT YOU REREAD MADE YOU THINK HE WAS NOT RECRUITED

PLZ DO SO.

[Zdenek]

I think Tanarin's play day one was pretty suspicious, so I'd be surprised if he was recruited after day one, and, considering the player list, after seeing him play I was having a hard time believing that he would have been a choice for a pre-game recruit.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Unvote; Vote: Darox

DGB is giving me vibes, but Darox's claim has so many holes.

[ConSpiracy]

Wasn't that the hammer?
Darox, who are your cultbuddies?
DGB is scum, not cult but scum. Read her, she can't be culted before last night, and I don't think she was culted this night.
However, she is pulling the "vote me, I will vote myself as well"-card far too much.

@mod, I will be semi-V/La next few days. Most likely I will have some access, but I am on holidays with my family.

[xvart]

Sorry again, I need to also declare a

semi-V/LA for the next day or two

; just replaced into a long game with a short deadline and got deathly sick yesterday. I'm going to try and get my post I promised yesterday up tonight.

[Herodotus]

If only my ability hadn't failed on DGB N1.

How did you know your ability failed on DGb if you are a doctor?

I'm thinking this over. If we have enough unrecruitable people claim, and heord investigates each of them down the line to confirm, and we start speedlynching and vigging through the list of non-unrecruitable people, (with other power roles helping out town), does town auto-win?

No, because the unrecruitable people start dying

seems Darox isn't considering being the doctor that could protect unrecruitable people

Want to know why?

Because he's not a ing doctor, god

These two objections (translated into noncaps above) are good.

I think Tanarin's play day one was pretty suspicious, so I'd be surprised if he was recruited after day one, and, considering the player list, after seeing him play I was having a hard time believing that he would have been a choice for a pre-game recruit.

You first mentioned him on day 3?

[DrippingGoofball]

If only my ability hadn't failed on DGB N1.

HOW DID YOU KNOW YOUR ABILITY FAILED ON DGB N1 IF YOU ARE A DOCTOR?

FINALLY.

The tajo I know and love is back.

Darox is hammered, right?

[Cobblerfone]

Darox is hammered, right?

I don't think so. I think ConSpiracy was gambitting. Darox is at L-1 unless I missed a vote. You want to hammer?

[populartajo]

If only my ability hadn't failed on DGB N1.

HOW DID YOU KNOW YOUR ABILITY FAILED ON DGB N1 IF YOU ARE A DOCTOR?

FINALLY.

The tajo I know and love is back.

Darox is hammered, right?

LOLOLOLO IT WAS ALL IN THE FREAKING THREAD AND I KNEW IT THE MOMENT I CONFIRMED MY DAROX VOTE

FYI, ITS TOO LATE FOR BUDDYING UP TO ME, DEEGEEBEE

VIGZ PLEASE DO YOUR JOB

[DrippingGoofball]

I retract my most recent post, tajo.

I don't know what happened between us.

VOTE: Darox

[populartajo]

So you somehow want me to think YOU ARE TOWN after all this?:

WRONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

Darox's explanation actually makes sense.

WHY IS TAJO STILL ALIVE? He's so full of crap. He's not reading the game and he's sticking to an AGENDA that is not scum hunting.

I believe Darox's claim.

Can we kill tajo, please?

He's as cult as Katsuki was.

yeah right.

[Cobblerfone]

@Mod:I'm gonna be V/LA part or all of tomorrow and Saturday. I'm not exactly sure at what time but I'll back on Sunday.

[ConSpiracy]

Darox is hammered, right?

I don't think so. I think ConSpiracy was gambitting. Darox is at L-1 unless I missed a vote. You want to hammer?

And what is the best way to answer a gambit if it's not on you...

Darox, you´re at L-1, any last suspicions?

[DrippingGoofball]

So you somehow want me to think YOU ARE TOWN after all this?:

I don't care what you think my alignment is, you're wrong about it. And my alignment isn't dependent on what I think YOUR alignment is.

I don't think you'll ever think I'm town in

any

game. I don't recall the last time you though I was town in a game.

[Cobblerfone]

And what is the best way to answer a gambit if it's not on you...

Hey, somebody else asked and wanted to hammer.

[Mr. Flay]

Final Vote Count of Day Four:

Darox - 10 (populartajo, bvoigt, Yosarian2, Seraphim, Cobblerfone, Battousai, ConSpiracy, Zdenek, Lady Lambdadelta, DrippingGoofball)

populartajo - 4 (Darox, Nobody Special, Bunnylover, Herodotus)
bvoigt - 2 (Magister Ludi, xvart)
DrippingGoofball - 1 (ooba)
Zdenek - 1 (Flameaxe)

Not Voting: nobody!

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Darox's protestations of innocence fell on deaf ears of a town too tired of a bloody summer and a rainless heat wave to listen. Beating him senseless and throwing him on the next riverboat out of town seemed like a good idea... at the time.

Darox, Dock Worker/Bodyguard (Town), was lynched Day Four.

It is now Night Four. Any and all Night Actions are due to me no later than midnight of Monday, July 25th. I know that seems long, but lynch happening now means most of Night will be over a weekend.

[Mr. Flay]

A night for clearing the streets, it seems... but not the sort of scum you'd really hope to rid yourselves of.

First, Seraphim, longtime resident of the River Quay area, great sage and eminent junkie, was found dead in an alley. In an ordinary summer, one might suspect exposure or even a drug overdose to be the cause of death, but not this time. In any case, no one slashes their own wrists, backs of their hands, forearms, AND jugular in sequence... do they??

Shortly after dawn, another pair of squad cars are called into the Quay, to investigate the body of Dripping Goofball, an adult entertainer and sometime barfly who wasn't above getting paid for more than just her drinks. Police called an ambulance to the scene shortly after their arrival, but the lack of sirens and the drawn-up sheet tell all the story that needs be told. They did say that the victim appeared to have had sex recently, but were unable to tell at this time if it was forced or consensual.

Seraphim, Junkie/Tracker (Town), was killed Night Four.

Dripping Goofball, Exotic Dancer/Roleblocker (Town), was found murdered in her apartment Night Four.

It is now Day Five; with fifteen voters, it will take eight votes to lynch.

[Magister Ludi]

Vote: bvoigt