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[April Ludgate]

Holden/April/Farside/Penguin=town I think I wanna vote in Dunnstral/Bird/Chem today. Unless all my townreads go on Mastina than I'd join.

I don't like this post. Mastina and Chemist were trying to get me lynched right before this was being said, and it feels like Clover was staying on the opposite side trying to have Dunnstral/Bird be the lynch. I was calling Mastina/Birds/Chemist the scum team at this point, and Mastina came hounding in on me, followed by Chemist. This could be positioning.

[April Ludgate]

It’s literally a senseless move for me to have pushed Votato like that right there. I could have just as easily given a clear,

OK

so this whole thing is Mastina’s doing, and you can tell by the way she’s been playing.

I don't know why you're scumreading Mastina in the first place

I think I wanna vote in Dunnstral/Bird/Chem today. Unless all my townreads go on Mastina than I'd join.

Scummy

oh, you called it scummy too. But you were also semi defending Mastina push.

[April Ludgate]

Dunnstral and Farside are still scum though

Just, Dunnstral more clearly than Farside now.

Oh cool both Dunn and Farside are gunning for me now because of the Votato thing

Dunnstral and Farside are still scum though

Just, Dunnstral more clearly than Farside now.

VOTE: Mastina

This did not age well.

[April Ludgate]

What do you think of Dunnstral pinning that shit where he got a bunch of people to switch from Votato to DEB on me?

It wouldn't have been possible to lynch votato: two of the flexible votes were you and votato.

I don't think Dunnstral acting like the night kills were linked to him is a real thought but I digress. Don't think I'm gonna vote JJH here

Now that I think about it myself, HoldenGolden showed up right at the end too so it would have been possible - oh well. I'm pretty sure when I started shifting the wagon he wasn't around

Dunnstral was the biggest jjh pusher when Mastina should been the lynch, I feel. Also brought up Holden.

I think final scum is Dunn or Clover.

[April Ludgate]

clover post there if scum was taking advantage of Dunn's wrong read. Dunn scum there is protecting mastina.

[April Ludgate]

I can still convince myself Mastina is scum here based on circumstantial game stuff, but I still feel like her posting is town.

I mean it's pretty damn obvious I'm not the one calling the shots on the scumteam.

Dunn, you look so scummy on a read through of Day 2.

[April Ludgate]

I'm leading the goat people to a glorious new home. Until I done, I'm gonna be a bit busy and wont be on till tonight probably.

I also got the one shot janitor information as well.

Additionally scanning the thread I notice people talking about scums ability to change nk flavor? Votato Gore seems to be for his vig ability. We have had two people get drowned back to back which means we have an aquatic vig which was able to shoot twice or it's actually the mafia KP. Trying to work my head around if Bingle shot flavor kill could come from a vig

This is kind of weird, actually. He says 'trying to work my head around if'. Could be the sith lord we've been looking for, setting some stuff up.

[April Ludgate]

What doors does Mastina open?

=/

[April Ludgate]

By the way, now that I'm reminded:

Why didn't you post at deadline, Conspire?

What do you mean?

~Cosmic

Interesting how despite shading Dunny for most the game, votato's only on him briefly after being asked why he isn't voting him, and then moves of him shortly after because "the wagon isn't gaining momentum" (3 votes) and then moves to a smaller wagon (farside on 2 votes).

~Cosmic

I've not been scumreading PP since I looked at his iso again when he told me to and especially now he's made things more explicitly clear.

I'm still pretty confident on Farside but w/e

VOTE: Dunn

lets do it! VOTE: dunnstral

Actually, this later is a better look for Dunny.

~Cosmic

I actually disagree, Conspire. =/

I'll probably be looking over everyone today, Dunn, don't feel like I'm locked into this. There's reasons to town read you here too, like your Day 5, and possible roleblocked, and your elephant.

But I think there's reasons to town read everyone in this game.

[April Ludgate]

Okay. Chemist, birds and boys, Dunnstral. No particular order. That's the scumteam in its entirety. Everyone else in the game is town.

Self destructing is the answer with a bit of Dunnstral exerting a totally unjustified amount of influence (why are people listening to him?) . Cool stuff

maybe JJH had the scum team in Chemist/Dunn, but was blinded by Mastina's pocketing.

[April Ludgate]

“Flips:

Flips may include kill flavor. While this may suggest the role behind the kill,

some killing roles

may be able to obscure or change their flavor. “

Also, this is in the Krazy ruleset, so anyone hanging onto that as a reasoning is scum or surface level.

Votato's role is a killing role that does not have this power, though

Why does he have to be the one to have changed it?

I saw what I saw. And there’s fucking proof with the Bingle shot.

Mafia has ONE fucking shot based on that message, right? 1 janitor shot?

Bingle was janitored.

If nobody claims to have janitored Bingle, then it is confirmed Votato did so to him.

That was ALSO not his fucking kill flavor. This proves something is happening with it

Ah fuck it, ill just state it since my baiting to draw anybody out to claim the missing KP didn't work (not that I thought it would)


I am the missing KP on the Bingle Kill Train. My Flavor for my KP is "Shot". That's why I knew day 2 that Bingle had to be targeted by a janitor/KP combo since like I stated it wouldn't make sense for a random Janitor to come along and just so happen to select the same person I targeted.

Ugh, Holden could be scum that thought there was going to be multiple killing roles on Bingle, so wanted to get the jump on it. But the shot flavor is nice town reasonings.

[April Ludgate]

2nd off, I don't really see the scum!Mastina read.

Rereading Day 1, despite her lack of presence in the thread, she backed herself into a really tight corner regarding Votato. While its not out of the question scum could of start bussing Votato day 1 sensing the pressure brought by slots like me, Mastina's stance highly limited any chance for Votato to survive both in her ability to support counter wagons and also fundamentally undermining the fake claim. Furthermore, when comparing the claim progression compared to other's who relied heavily on the claim to get a read off (for example, birds early to mid day 1 read) it doesn't explain the thought process in detail enough to provide wiggle room out of the read. Later posts such as citing Votato as the scum on PP doubt train also doubled down on this.

Since April has confirmed the presence of a RB (most likely scum), that also reassures me of town!mastina. According to April's plan and Gambit, Mastina was to be shot and cleaned by it. Considering this, I don't think scum would be willing to try and lose 2 members before EoD day 2 and would of rbed April out of safety. Now, this is assuming that scum doesn't have other ways to mitigate or heal KP, but it was a high risk situation given what we know so far about the suppose scum RB to not RB April

Ouch, this one's pretty bad for Holden.

[Dunnstral]

April Ludgate, I am an Elephant

[Clover Ebi]

Holden/April/Farside/Penguin=town I think I wanna vote in Dunnstral/Bird/Chem today. Unless all my townreads go on Mastina than I'd join.

I don't like this post. Mastina and Chemist were trying to get me lynched right before this was being said, and it feels like Clover was staying on the opposite side trying to have Dunnstral/Bird be the lynch. I was calling Mastina/Birds/Chemist the scum team at this point, and Mastina came hounding in on me, followed by Chemist. This could be positioning.

You're really overthinking it friend.

Did everyone claim animals by the way?

[Clover Ebi]

It's impossible for me to be the roleblocker since my actions are universal, meaning I'd target everyone with the roleblock. Considering my animal fits my role and all my actions are accounted for do you think there's reason to suspect my slot?

Side note I shouldn't have done a fast night when I only got through April and Farside.

[Clover Ebi]

We have roleblock claims on night 2 and 4 plus April instantly got into a 1v1 with Birds thanks to my action. I doubt April is scum here. Miss Lynch being a godfather I'll take a loss to that because I think that's weird game design. That leaves Dunnstral and Holden and considering Holdens claim is the most unaccounted for I lean on voting him but I'm going to read both of them today.

[Clover Ebi]

Imagine if I was more assertive in wanting to lynch Mastina a few days ago. (Even if it was for the wrong reasons) I say imagine because I can never see myself being super assertive.

[Miss Lane]

I'm not scum because I wasn't awake when farside was shot and I wouldn't have shot farside

[Miss Lane]

Also I like farside.

April is town.

I know everyone else knows it but I'm trying to look like I'm putting in effort here

[Miss Lane]

TBH I was kinda hoping I'd rep in and get lynched but that didn't happen. It definitely looks like tally have got this game figured out and therefore dont need me . Ift things get kinda dire I'll put my thinking hat on and try to help the best I can.

[Dunnstral]

I'm not scum because I wasn't awake when farside was shot and I wouldn't have shot farside

I'd argue you would have; they were probably bus driving you and someone else

[Dunnstral]

I can still convince myself Mastina is scum here based on circumstantial game stuff, but I still feel like her posting is town.

I mean it's pretty damn obvious I'm not the one calling the shots on the scumteam.

Dunn, you look so scummy on a read through of Day 2.

Also come on

[Miss Lane]

I'm not scum because I wasn't awake when farside was shot and I wouldn't have shot farside

I'd argue you would have; they were probably bus driving you and someone else

Prolly cuz you're scum

[Miss Lane]

Also lol how does that logic work

[April Ludgate]

April Komodo Dragon
Holden donkey
Dunnstral elephant
Clover?
Miss Lynch?