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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:22 am

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Wow, Astronaut... I guess that Vernita Green's the only DVA in a scum group :roll.
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:23 am

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inHimshallibe wrote:Wow, Astronaut... I guess that Vernita Green's the only DVA in a scum group :roll:
Editing my previous post.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:44 am

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Will do, everyone.

Unvote (if I was); Vote: olio
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:35 am

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Final Votecount

Electra (inHimshalibe, olio)
Neongrey (Halofreak)
olio (Astronaut, Electra, Halofreak, neongrey, LoudmouthLee, Rolandofthewhite)

As the town starts calling for people to reveal themselves. Two step forward, saying that "I, Elle am the doctor." As the group argues, olio reveals himself to be none other than Pai Mei. He says his Five Point Exploding Palm Technique doesnt leave holes so he is not the killer, and even though Bad right now, is harmless and not worth the lynch. It is unsuccessful.


Olio (Pai Mei [Neutral]) committed sepuku D3

TOWN WINS


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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 10:42 am

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:shock:

... How?!
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:01 am

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Night choices:

Code: Select all

Name               Verb           Person(Result)            Effect

Night 1
BrianMcQueso	    beheads	     Locus Cosecant		      dies
halo freak		   investigates   Fuldu (bad)			      “good”
Neongrey 		    protects 	   Leonidas			         ---
Locus Cosecant	  screws		   Halo freak (male)		   no vote
Rolandofthewhite	blows up	    no one (gave in choice)	---

Day 1
Lynch BrianMcQueso (Beatrix Kiddo [Serial Killer Plus])

Night 2
halo freak		   investigates	Leonidas (good)	        “Bad”
Neongrey		     protects	    Halo Freak		          ---
Rolandofthewhite	blows up	    Rajrhrcpfreak		       No Effect

Day 2
Lynch  Fuldu (Hattori Hanzo [Neutral])

Night 3
halo freak		   investigates	Rolandofthewhite (good)	“Bad”
Neongrey		     protects	    Halo Freak	             ---
Rolandofthewhite	blows up	    Leonidas	               Leonidas (O-ren [good]) blown up N3
**LoudmouthLee replaces rajrhcpfreak

Day 3 Lynch olio (Pai Mei [Neutral])


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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:12 am

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I got:
- Protected night 1,
- Investigated night 2,
- Vigi-killed night 3.

Time-to-live:
2 days
, before the town's defense mechanisms get rid of me by a kind of slow, unstoppable, yet natural alchemy.

Of course, claiming O-Ren in this setup, far from saving me, just accelerated the photosynthesis... :D

Anyway - YAY TOWN :!:
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:39 am

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LoudmouthLee wrote: Everyone else claimed. I would daykill you both myself if I could.
HI SUCK.

>__>

I really want to know what powers Beatrix had... they must have been pretty crazy. :P
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:02 pm

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So it looks like my read on the game wasn't too far from correct. With the killing Night Three, I had simply assumed that I was wrong in some way. It never occurred to me that a vig might have misinterpreted/forgotten that I was saying that Leonidas was likely innocent.
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:31 pm

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Match the number next to the name with the number of the role:

12 Astronaut
1 BrianMcQueso
11 Electra
3 Fuldu
5 halo freak
8 inHimshallibe
7 Leonidas
9 Locus Cosecant
6 neongrey
2 olio
4 rajrhcpfreak/LoudmouthLee
10 rolandofthewhite

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1. Beatrix Kiddo- Bad Female
“Looked dead, didn't I? But I wasn't. But it wasn't from lack of trying, I can tell you that. Actually, Bill's last bullet put me in a coma - A coma I was to lie in for four years. When I woke up, I went on what the movie advertisements refer to as a 'roaring rampage of revenge.' I roared. And I rampaged. And I got bloody satisfaction. I've killed a hell of a lot of people to get to this point, but I have only one more. The last one. The one I'm driving to right now. The only one left. And when I arrive at my destination, I am gonna kill Bill.”

You are a Serial Killer, but win when Bill, Budd, O-Ren, Elle, and Vivica are dead
You also can forgo any night kill to be immune to investigation that night
Safe Claim: Sofie Fatale

2. Pai Mei- Bad/Neutral Male
“Elle Driver: I poisoned his fish heads.
Pai Mei: Elle, you treacherous dog. I give you my word...”

You win if Elle dies and you survive to the end
You are detected as bad until Elle dies, then becomes neutral

3. Hattori Hanzo- Bad/Neutral Male
“Bill: You hocked a Hattori Hanzo Sword?
Budd: Yep.
Bill: It was priceless.
Budd: Well, not in El Paso, it ain't. In El Paso I got me $250 for it.”

You win if Budd dies and you survive to the end
You are detected as bad until Budd dies, and then become neutral

4. Bill- Good Male
“Y'all beat the hell out of that woman, but you didn't kill her. And I put a bullet in her head, but her heart just kept on beatin'. Now, you saw that yourself with your own beautiful blue eye, did you not? We've done a lot of things to this lady. And if she ever wakes up, we'll do a whole lot more. But one thing we won't do is sneak into her room in the night like a filthy rat and kill her in her sleep. And the reason we won't do that thing is because... that thing would lower us. Don't you agree, Miss Driver?”

You are immune to night kills until Budd, Elle, O-Ren, and Vivica die

5. Budd- Good Male
“My point is, I'm the bouncer, and there ain't nobody out there to bounce!”

You are a cop and can investigate one person each night

[Mod Note:Budd is insane]


6. Elle Driver- Good Female
“Bill: What's her condition?
Elle Driver: Comatose.”

You are a doctor and can protect one other person each night

7. O-Ren Ishii- Good Female
“Swords however, never get tired. I hope you saved your energy. If you haven't… you may not last five minutes. But as last looks go, you could do worse.”

You are a townie

8. Vernita Green- Good Female
“So I suppose it's a little late for an apology, huh?”

You are a townie

9. Buck- Good Male
“My name is Buck and I’m here to f***”

You choose 1 person each night, and if they are male or you don’t submit a choice or you repeat a person, then you get no vote the next day

10. Karen Wong- Good Female
“Not that I have to be at this range, but I'm a f***ing surgeon with this shotgun.”

You are a vigilante and can kill one person each night

11. Gogo Yubari- Good Female
“Or is it I who has penetrated you?”

You are in a mason group with Johnny Mo, ________, and can talk at night

[Mod Note: Mason with Astronaut]


12. Johnny Mo- Good Male
“[Insert quote here (he doesn’t say much)]”

You are in a mason group with Gogo, ________, and can talk at night

[Mod Note: Mason with Electra]
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IS: Thats the fun part

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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:40 pm

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General info and questions:
☼The town and olio would have won if they lynched the doc D3
☼I saw the game as possibly going to a mass claim day 1 and then having the town on a clock as the SK+ picked off targets, which almost happened
☼Would the game have gone better without a cop? Mathcam suggested this as a posibility while balancing it
☼If I didnt screw up, what were the chances someone other than Brian would be lynched D1?
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 12:53 pm

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I've already vented my mean post, so I'm going to try to keep this polite, but, seriously, what did you expect to happen with Pai Mei and Hattori Hanzo if Beatrix died first?

And your intent was to have the game go to mass claim on Day One?!
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 1:18 pm

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That wasn't an intent, just a possibility. I guess I phrased that poorly.
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 6:19 pm

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Electra wrote:
LoudmouthLee wrote: Everyone else claimed. I would daykill you both myself if I could.
HI SUCK.

>__>

I really want to know what powers Beatrix had... they must have been pretty crazy. :P
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:11 pm

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Yeah, I think there was some unpleasant balance issues with the neutrals there, but we've already seen what happened. Other than that... well, I had a good time, at least.
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:29 pm

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wait warpdragon you sent my roland is bad that is why i cleared him.

Good game everyone that was god fun.
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:56 pm

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Since this was only a mini I really don't think a win through mass role claim is less worth than an "ordinary" win, but I can understand Hattori Hanzo and Pai Mei's frustration over not being able to nightkill.

It's obvious that mod tried to stick pretty close to the original script here. I really like this in a themed game, but the powers could perhaps have been distributed otherwise to balance things. But we have to remember that we got extremely lucky in nailing the SK day one and sorting out halo's sanity issue very quickly. If halo had investigated a townie and received "bad" it might have confused us quite a bit.

inHimshallibe wrote:Wow, Astronaut... I guess that Vernita Green's the only DVA in a scum group :roll.
Sorry, you and LML were the only ones not 100% confirmed in my eyes. Me being wrong isn't that unusual :roll:
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:41 pm

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LoudmouthLee wrote:
Electra wrote:
LoudmouthLee wrote: Everyone else claimed. I would daykill you both myself if I could.
HI SUCK.

>__>

I really want to know what powers Beatrix had... they must have been pretty crazy. :P
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You REALLY need to be more intelligent. :D <3
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:53 am

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I really didn't like my role, mostly because of the selfish aspect it had built-in. On the other hand, it had a nice moral question after I claimed: will the town show mercy and let me have a shot winning with them or will they play selfish too, latter being of course the safest and most logic choice.

That said I feel game was unbalanced from my point of view: there was only two people with night-kill abilities and one of them was townie. Warpdragon, did you really think me or Fuldu had shot in winning? What other strategies you (or anyone else) would've used in my situation?

Also, town won already on first day and from there on the whole game was about me and Fuldu - will we survive or not? So, for town the setup seemed easy, for SK hard and for us neutral almost impossible.

I did have good time though, so thanks everyone!

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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2005 1:58 am

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Suggestions:

I really liked the setup, although - yes, it was heavily in favor of the town.

Two possibilities:
- Make Karen Wong a SK too, sent by a rival gang to take out Bill + DVA (just like in the movie?)

AND / OR

- Allow Pai-Mei and Hattori Hanzo to be mafia with the Bride.

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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:45 am

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i think the thing that saved us the way even one believed that i was in sane i could very easily have gotten lynch for providing false info. What made everyone believe me?
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:52 am

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Halo, probably because it was highly obvious from the get-go that the DVA was the town in this game, and the lack of counter-claims made to the people who were implying that they were DVA.
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:56 am

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(Hear hear).

(Bah.. ;))
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:35 pm

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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Thu Apr 07, 2005 5:10 am

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Worst role ever were the scum in Dead Sleep Well.

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