Mini 588: Achewood Mafia - Game Over!

[Erg0]

I'm trying not to put too much stock into OG's result at this point because I don't necessarily think it is indicative of scum. However, there are a couple of other strong points against Alabaska at this point.

1. His FoS on Malthusis in post 142 is based on very weak reasoning ("Also, I personally don't care about the swearing. That seems like a playstyle choice and not a scumtell"). The timing of this FoS and his (similarly reasonless) switch to voting Malthusis after OG's claim look to me like a blatant bus of his scumbuddy.

2. His defence today that OG should have been blocked just doesn't look like a logical reaction from a townie. In all the games I've read I've never seen a townie react this way to a false cop result - sure, they've accused the "cop" of lying, but not for this reason. His defence reeks of extra knowledge of the setup, which indicates scum to me.

A lot of the other players are kind of blending together for me right now, so I'm going to have a better look at them now. I have one question that I'd like Alabaska to answer: do you, in fact, drink?

[Cipher]

Yep, that's me up there. Sorry for the mis-post.

[Alabaska J]

malthusis throwing a "me too" vote on both bandwagons is pretty damn scummy at this point

This quote by Lemming1607 pretty much sums up why I changed to malthusis. Also, I really put much weight into FoSes so when malthusis looked like he was trying to argue that swearing could define someone as scummy/not scummy I tacked one on there.

Also, during the night, I figured OG would investigate me. I would be proven town and all would be well. Given my new status I went to reread to see who I thought was the most scummy, as my opinion would be worth a little more the next day. However, as I was rereading (paired with things happening in other games), I realized that he was likely to be roleblocked and I was not a confirmed townie after all. Then when day started, and I was suddenly "scum," I thought it was odd, as OG was the obvious roleblock target. Seeing as I wasn't scum and OG had an investigation (which was doubly wrong, but I'll get to that later), I figured one of two possibilities: 1) she was scum trying to get me lynched and had faked his claim (the more likely scenario) 2) she had been roleblocked but felt so strongly towards me being scum that she voted for me anyway saying she got an investigation when she in fact didn't.


Also, I DO drink.

[Alabaska J]

Wait, who is erg0 replacing?

[populartajo]

Also, I DO drink.

How do you know?

[Alabaska J]

Also, I DO drink.

How do you know?

It mentions it in pm in addition to my character drinking in the strip on occasion (from what I have read which isn't much).

[Musher333]

Also, I DO drink.

How do you know?

Only town could know it tells you in role pm, any1 else think this means populartajo is scum because he didnt know?

[populartajo]

Also, I DO drink.

How do you know?

Only town could know it tells you in role pm, any1 else think this means populartajo is scum because he didnt know?

Thats exactly why I asked. Im town but I dont drink.

[populartajo]

EBWOP
Musher, do you drink? Does everyone drink?

[Alabaska J]

Wait, who is erg0 replacing?

[populartajo]

Its an alt, Alabaska. Cipher (or should I say Ergo) messed it up.

[Alabaska J]

Ahh. Yep I've seen that happen before. Gotcha.

[populartajo]

In this moment I sincerely want to know who drinks and who doesnt.
Alabaska --> Yes.
Populartajo --> No.

[Cipher]

I'm up for a mass drinking claim if the rest of the town agrees.

Pretty sure either Alabaska or OG has to be lying at this point, given that OG's claimed result contradicts Alabaska's drinking claim.

[populartajo]

I agree.
One question, does flavor usually influence this much?

[OG Smokedank]

alabaska is so full of shit

[populartajo]

Dont ignore us, OG.
You assumed you were the cop, right?

[OG Smokedank]

Dont ignore us, OG.
You assumed you were the cop, right?

yeah and i still think thats what i am

but even if i'm not, alabaksa is lying now so hes scum whether i'm cop or not, since i def got that he doesnt drink

[Alabaska J]

Dont ignore us, OG.
You assumed you were the cop, right?

yeah and i still think thats what i am

but even if i'm not, alabaksa is lying now so hes scum whether i'm cop or not, since i def got that he doesnt drink

I definitely do drink.

[Cipher]

Dont ignore us, OG.
You assumed you were the cop, right?

yeah and i still think thats what i am

but even if i'm not, alabaksa is lying now so hes scum whether i'm cop or not, since i def got that he doesnt drink

If you're the cop then Populartajo just admitted to being scum. That seems unlikely to me.

Might as well put it out there: I don't drink either. Hence, I don't believe that drinking/not drinking is a reliable indicator of scum. I strongly suspect that what OG has is, at best, a flavour verification ability.

Thinking about this further, I can't really see any reason that Alabaska would fake being a drinker under these circumstances, even if he were scum. The best way to resolve this might be to lynch elsewhere and let DoS investigate either Alabaska or OG tonight to see what he gets.

[lulu muumuu]

you mean you don't drink or it doesn't specify in your PM? mine doesn't specify, but i'm pretty sure i do/would (based on the comic).

[Alabaska J]

Dont ignore us, OG.
You assumed you were the cop, right?

yeah and i still think thats what i am

but even if i'm not, alabaksa is lying now so hes scum whether i'm cop or not, since i def got that he doesnt drink

If you're the cop then Populartajo just admitted to being scum. That seems unlikely to me.

Might as well put it out there: I don't drink either. Hence, I don't believe that drinking/not drinking is a reliable indicator of scum. I strongly suspect that what OG has is, at best, a flavour verification ability.

Thinking about this further, I can't really see any reason that Alabaska would fake being a drinker under these circumstances, even if he were scum. The best way to resolve this might be to lynch elsewhere and let DoS investigate either Alabaska or OG tonight to see what he gets.

This post is winning the thread.

[Cipher]

I mean I don't drink. My PM specifies this, but not in such a way as to lead me to think it's somehow important.

[populartajo]

Cipher, does your PM specifically says "you dont drink"?
Also, its pretty obvious that someone is lying. That means that there are big possibilities of one of them being scum since I dont see why a townie would lie about a fact like drinking.
Lulu you know you drink in the bar but not for your PM, right?
Then why is Alabaska the only one who has it specified in his role PM?

[Cipher]

Yes, my PM specifically says that I don't drink.

It seems pretty likely that Musher's PM has something about drinking in it as well, based on post 306. I guess it's not explicitly stated for everyone, though.