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Post Post #3025 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:58 am

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Lowell wrote:^^^ Either you're confessing to a killing role or you're just being OMGUSy. Which is it?
How am I confessing to a killing role? Check the math. If there are FIVE killing roles, SEVEN people, and I removed myself knowing I am not a killing role -- that makes SIX other people in this game.

5 / 6 = 83.3%

Call it "OMGUS" if you want. If I get lynched it is just going to be a war between killing roles until the end. The odds are highly stacked against me at this point as likely the only actual townie left -- save for a Vig/another Poisoner and possibly one other.
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Post Post #3026 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2009 10:47 am

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Vote: Caboose
for fakeclaiming firefighter. SL's town flip suggests she neither lied nor held back about who targeted Skruffs. The heavy poisoning says two poisoners. Caboose and BM were the only ones who targeted Skruffs that night and I don't buy two pro-town poisoners.

FoS: Tom Mason
for his reaction to the Caboose situation.
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Post Post #3027 (ISO) » Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:35 pm

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Tom Mason wrote:Maybe Adder did protect me for a few turns,
but I find it unlikely
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Exactly, so do I. Hence my suspicion given that Lowell said he's been trying to kill you for quite some time.

I'm not a killing role, btw. If I was I can assure you I would have knocked you off ASAP - or would have tried to at the very least, given Lowell's failure.
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Post Post #3028 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 6:46 am

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Tom Mason wrote:
Citizen Karne wrote:I think it is obvious we should get Caboose today. Go ahead and claim your targets if you want, but my vote isn't likely to change.
I would not be so quick on that accusation.

Four killing roles were identified with Night 5... Cremation was not one of them.

So, is it possible that he really might be the Firefighter he claimed to be?
CyberBob wrote: Vote: Tom Mason

I really don't see him drawing so many doc protections in a row.
I find it interesting that with a game where 7 people are alive (with 5 roles apparently having killing ability) you have not killed me yet. Knowing what my role is, you have an 83% chance of doing so. Why the hesitation?

Maybe Adder did protect me for a few turns, but I find it unlikely. With him being dead, we cannot ask that now.

That said, I do not think you have helped the game at all. You have spent most of it trying to gather failed bandwagons against me, which are worthless and will bring this game into a complete showdown between those will killing ability. And I think the statistical probability that you are a threat speaks for itself. It is even possible that some of you with NKs are immune to NK attacks on you -- which will explain why all of you are still alive.

Vote: CyberBob
There look to only be three killing roles who had an impact on night five. SL was poisoned and BA was "shot and sliced". Either the new mod changed the flavour of one of the killing roles or there's one that hadn't been active before, because we haven't seen shooting yet.

However, there is no reason, particularly if you believed there to be so many killing roles left and you weren't one of them, to believe in Cab's claim of firefighter.

Also, Lowell is pretty much confessing to SK.

I kind of think we should get the guy who poisoned our watcher, though, so my vote on Cab will remain for now.
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Post Post #3029 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:14 am

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I'll say more if I have to. I think we should lynch Caboose now and take a good look at Tom Mason tomorrow.
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Post Post #3030 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:41 am

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Citizen Karne wrote:I'll say more if I have to. I think we should lynch Caboose now and take a good look at Tom Mason tomorrow.
I think people should have been taking a good look (hell, a look at all would have been nice) at Tom for a long time now, but if a Tom lynch isn't going to happen today I'm willing to go for a Caboose one instead. They're both pretty damn scummy.
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Post Post #3031 (ISO) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:56 pm

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Cyberbob wrote:
Citizen Karne wrote:I'll say more if I have to. I think we should lynch Caboose now and take a good look at Tom Mason tomorrow.
I think people should have been taking a good look (hell, a look at all would have been nice) at Tom for a long time now, but if a Tom lynch isn't going to happen today I'm willing to go for a Caboose one instead. They're both pretty damn scummy.
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Post Post #3032 (ISO) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 7:22 am

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vote count:
Tom Mason 1 vote: (Cyberbob)
Caboose 2 vote: (Citizen Karne, EGL)
Cyberbob 1 vote: (Tom Mason)

Not voting:
Lowell:
Caboose
killa seven

With 7 votes it will take 4 to lynch

prodding Caboose and killa seven
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Post Post #3033 (ISO) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:13 pm

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sorry wasnt paying attention to the thread, when did caboose fake claim?
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Post Post #3034 (ISO) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:29 pm

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killa seven wrote:sorry wasnt paying attention to the thread, when did caboose fake claim?
Two days ago, I believe.
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Post Post #3035 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:32 am

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EGL wrote:
Vote: Caboose
for fakeclaiming firefighter. SL's town flip suggests she neither lied nor held back about who targeted Skruffs. The heavy poisoning says two poisoners. Caboose and BM were the only ones who targeted Skruffs that night and I don't buy two pro-town poisoners.

FoS: Tom Mason
for his reaction to the Caboose situation.
I'm going back to check EGL's behavior around the BM claim/re-claim/lynch.
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Post Post #3036 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:40 am

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I don't know why people think I fakeclaimed.
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Post Post #3037 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:12 pm

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EBWOP 3035: checking CABOOSE, not EGL.

If the caboose claim is fake, I think it most likely that he's responsible for the cremation kills, not the poisoning. It's an easier save if someone blocks his attempted kill.
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Post Post #3038 (ISO) » Tue Feb 24, 2009 2:46 pm

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Lowell wrote:EBWOP 3035: checking CABOOSE, not EGL.

If the caboose claim is fake, I think it most likely that he's responsible for the cremation kills, not the poisoning. It's an easier save if someone blocks his attempted kill.
The issue is that now BlakAdder is dead. He was the doctor. It is possible if Caboose had fake claimed that BA blocked him.

We have no way of knowing this.

There was no cremation kill last night phase, which leaves the potential that Caboose actually blocked that kill -- or he is really lying.

With 7 people alive and one wrong lynch costing the town the game, I am not going to throw all my hopes on Caboose lying.

Also, farside22:
Can we get clarification of that death by shooting, I would appreciate it. Did the kill flavor/style get changed or are we dealing with an entirely different killing role now?

If it is a mistake, then there are actually only FOUR killing roles left. If it is not a mistake, then it is FIVE killing roles.

Rather important clarification, I think.
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Post Post #3039 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 7:56 am

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Tom Mason wrote:
Also, farside22:
Can we get clarification of that death by shooting, I would appreciate it. Did the kill flavor/style get changed or are we dealing with an entirely different killing role now?
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Sorry I'm not completely up to par on killing styles. I know for sure one is wrong and I will fix that


Edit here: BA was dismembered and drowned.
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Post Post #3040 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:55 am

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I am very sorry. Read the Apologies thread in GD for explanation. I think I can remanage this game, whenever farside22 is ready.
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Post Post #3041 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:56 am

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skitzer wrote:
I am very sorry. Read the Apologies thread in GD for explanation. I think I can remanage this game, whenever farside22 is ready.
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Post Post #3042 (ISO) » Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:03 pm

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yay skitzer's back

also we should lynch tom/caboose
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Post Post #3043 (ISO) » Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:22 pm

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Caboose wrote:I don't know why people think I fakeclaimed.
Targets, please.
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Post Post #3044 (ISO) » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:32 am

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Target last night was BA.
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Post Post #3045 (ISO) » Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:47 pm

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Caboose wrote:Target last night was BA.
I am not sated.
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Post Post #3046 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:34 am

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I still like my vote on Caboose but Tom isn't doing much to help himself.
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Post Post #3047 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:42 am

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Cyberbob, we will deal with Tom Mason tomorrow. I have caught scum here and would like it if you would help lynch him.

Lowell, killa seven, just vote.
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Post Post #3048 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:12 pm

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I'd prefer Tom, but whatever, the firefighter claim does seem pretty lame.

unvote, vote caboose
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Post Post #3049 (ISO) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 4:13 pm

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BTW, looking back around the BM poisoner claim/lynch doesn't reveal much. caboose was MIA throughout.

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