Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[Riddick]

i think mole's more likely scum with riken by a little bit than kison.

[/b]Vote Mole[/b]

[Ythan]

I suppose if he was the last mafia then that could explain the one kill.

[Riddick]

that never even crossed my mind. is mole in any other games/active on site?

[Ythan]

Sorry I meant the one we lynched.

[Netopalis]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 4

MoleStargazer

- 1 - Riddick - (L-3)

Players not voting: Kison, MoleStargazer, Nachomama8, Nhammen, Ythan

[Kison]

Yes we should massclaim. We should have done it yesterday, in fact.

Mole's last post on the site was April 27th unless he's posted within the past 20 hours.

[Ythan]

I'd like to see Nacho go first. After not posting for 12 days he hops on the Rike wagon at the end of the day. Yuck.

[molestargazer]

I have been on site 'overnight'. Apologies for not being able to get to the game before the lynch.

Before anyone bothers looking for them, I didn't really HAVE any thoughts on Rik. My entire time was spent asking for a link to a case and having a look through, which never actually happened - despite both me AND the replacement asking for one.
That's why I didn't join the wagon - I had no reason to at the time.

@Riddick - You've mentioned we have a doc. Is there any evidence you have to back this up?
I admit, with Ythan's lack of death throughout the whole game despite being a very pro-town player, Doc is a very distinct possibility.

I support a massclaim, but we have to go into it in the knowledge that our PRs are probably going to catch a bullet or two tonight.

[molestargazer]

Mole/Konowa/Kison <--- scum is there imo.

Why not nacho?

[Riddick]

Startransmission, replacing SaintKerrigan, Doctor, Killed Night 2.

is my evidence, lol.


and not nacho as I think Diacria was an obv counterwago for the scum

[molestargazer]

Ah.
Do you think we have another, then?

[nhammen]

Massclaim++

I was planning to ISO Kise and Mole since, well, the end of the previous Day. Unfortunately I tend to procrastinate, so I haven't done it yet. Need to do it soon. Will get on it right away.

[Riddick]

no i doubt we've another doctor.


anyway there's still probably two scums left (sk + mafia). 3/1 is used in a lot of 12 player set-up's so to me 4/1 seems far more likely here given that this is a 20 player game.

[Kison]

Nacho, where are you?

You've been posting elsewhere.

[Ythan]

That's suspect. Post or we can go ahead and knock you off the list.

[Nachomamma8]

Vanilla Townie.

Kison, you next.


Also, posting in big bold letters isn't truly that helpful. If I'm not posting, that's probably because I'm not checking the topic.

[Kison]

If I'm not posting, that's probably because I'm not checking the topic.

Or checking and hoping people forget Ythan wanted you to claim first? Calling you out on not posting only makes it so you can't do that, if it was your intention.

I'm Vanilla, and I would like molestargazer to go next.

I was planning to ISO Kise and Mole since, well, the end of the previous Day.

You just called me Kise!

[molestargazer]

I would like molestargazer to go next.

No surprises there.
I'm a townsperson (VT).

I would like Riddick to go next.

[Riddick]

vanilllllllla.


who's left? nhammen? is that it?

he's the mason I assume.

[Riddick]

Ythan - Even night vig
Nhamman - Mason by POE
Riddick/Nacho/Mole/Kison - Vanilla.


nacho/mole/kison contain the scums.

i'm thinking with a mason pair/watcher/doctor/roleblocker and vig 4 scum and an sk is more likely.

i think nacho's the least likely to be regular scum in that lot as the other 2 were on the diacria wagon.

i feel mole is slightly more likely scum than kison. so yeh.

Atm it's
Mole
Kison
Nacho for me although i'm mostly working from me.

[Riddick]

When's deadline? I don't want to speedlynch again even if it worked well last time.

i'm in finals atm so like my time for re-reading is sparse, but i'm slightly more confident in mole than kison. i will double check though.

[Netopalis]

6 alive, 4 to lynch. Deadline: May 16, 2010 - 11:59 PM.

[nhammen]

vanilllllllla.


who's left? nhammen? is that it?

he's the mason I assume.

Correct. Konowa breadcrumbed it in a response to farside (I know this because he mentioned in QT before I replaced him).

unsight and musher/konowa are my last two and then I will have a wrap up of my top suspects

farside just made a funny.

Unsight told me that he was more suspicious of Kison and mole. I am more suspicious of Nacho, but I am currently reading the Kison and mole ISOs to see what I think. The Kison info is almost ready to post.

Funnily enough, I thought I saw Cop tells coming from Riddick. Just more examples of how I can not read peoples' roles for the life of me. But, hmmm. Riddick, why were you pushing so hard for a massclaim?

[nhammen]

So, I ISOed Kison, and here is what I saw:

Dr.Cyanide

: Where are you? Who do you suspect and why?

Nice catch Farside.

Between horrordude, crypto and beater, crypto does look scummier, but only because horrordude and beater look like newbie town.

Vote:Crypto

because I'm sure I did this already.

Please explain what made beater and horrordude appear like "newbie town" as opposed to crypto. This is awfully vague.

town++

In ISO 10 he calls out the previous holder of Nacho's slot for lurking.

He has his PBPA in ISO 16.
He attacks Nacho's slot as lurking, wishy washy, and scummy. I agree.
About riken he says, "All in all, not the most active player, but most of his posts serve a purpose. As such, I would look elsewhere for today's lynch." scum++
I agree with the mole case he presents in his PBPA.

ISO 19 and 21 looks like a good case against mole.

ISO 31 has good logical attack on Dedicated Scribe's actions re: horror. Scum can use good logic too though. Kinda wondering where this good logic was earlier. I've only seen him really logically discuss Dr. Cyanide, mole, and now DS.

Until his mole case, Kison tends to only call out lurkers and VIs and none of his own posts are very substantive until he has this case. This looks to me to be a null tell, but attacking lurkers is a pretty easy way for scum to appear townish. Once he has the mole case, he tunnels hard. This looks very much like what an uninformed player might do before he has a real suspect, and after he has a real suspect. So the real question here is whether Kison is actually part of the Uninformed Majority, or is just good at acting uninformed. I'm leaning toward the former at this time.

[molestargazer]

nacho/mole/kison contain the scums.

In which case, it's Nacho.
I'm VT. I think Kison is pretty townish, just making a mistake in his case on me.