Shadowrun Mafia - Game Over

[Frozen Angel]

its just more annoying than all of these

we could remove prison break and get all flips during the day in first place as I told.

then I wouldn't let you live after SC red flip math. at all.

[Frozen Angel]

"No and not planning on it."

and I told you two that other one is definitly scum at that point. I could have made a case ... fuck really

[MathBlade]

Yeah at that point I was trying to piss off ABR into shooting me. I gave up on convincing him XD

[Frozen Angel]

I kind of feel weird atm. need to rest and get away from pc.

goodbye

[MathBlade]

Sorry FA. /me hugs

[inspectorscout]

Btw Math

<3 you made this game so much fun for me

/me hugs as well

[MathBlade]

Good to know this game was brutal. I think if I had a sanity score it was in the pits.

[MathBlade]

@FA - http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p8403551

Yeah pretty much when I said no I was scum claiming to ABR and JaeReed luckily JaeReed ignored it.

[MathBlade]

Btw Math

<3 you made this game so much fun for me

/me hugs as well

You kept what little sanity I had going (you and froot are the true geniuses shhhhh)

[JaeReed]

I ignored way too much from you Math because of a few reasons.
One, I always tend to get super paranoid of my townreads and end up flipping my read on them (ask poor nahdia lol).
Two, and most important I think, I kept thinking that no flips were causing you to contradict yourself and that flips would set you on the right track again. I desperately needed a flip so I thought maybe you did too and were faking your confidence in reads.
Three, I kept handwaving many things as "Just math".

For the record I thought when I was rereading that your push on karnos looked a lot like you thought you were pushing on a mislynch. But I didn't continue my reread because of uncle + pants dropped talk.

If you were town FA was talking about protecting me that night so I said you'd be on me most likely. Then when sooper wanted to shut off roleblocking which would affect jailkeepers most likely I claimed that because otherwise we lose one of our town protective roles for the night.

I felt awful about dropping pants on you but not anymore :p that's what you get for being scum.

[inspectorscout]

If you were town FA was talking about protecting me that night so I said you'd be on me most likely. Then when sooper wanted to shut off roleblocking which would affect jailkeepers most likely I claimed that because otherwise we lose one of our town protective roles for the night.

The best part of this was that I already knew Math's role. I hoped it would only shut down the roleblocking component, but it would have shut down the roleblocking, doctor and rolecop part.
So even though blocking roleblocking was obviously the best idea (redirectors are rare), I still had to push the redirector blocking. It felt terrible because I felt like I was scumclaiming, lmao

[MathBlade]

Yeah should have done roleblocking XD I would have not known about your jolt.

[JaeReed]

Reading the scum PT... Did anyone actually do the pushing on RR's wording as a slip thing? I feel like I might have pushed on that if someone did, unless it was Math, who I ignore that kind of thing from xP oops.

[JaeReed]

Ahhh, apparently Math did. The one person who I would ignore pushing on a slip that isn't really a slip because from Math it's more of a personality tell. Dang xP

[Klingoncelt]

I'm so fucking useless

No you aren't.

(((hugs)))

[JaeReed]

Yeah no, FA you were really town and you did a really good job of putting everything together, identifying contradictions, and I'd easily say you put in way more work than most of us did this game. I didn't do a good enough job at listening to you, RR, grovyle, and ABR. My play was appalling, especially the Klingon push.

Math, thanks for the buddying <3 That was an interesting experience and managed to mess up my reads. Now to never trust you again

[MathBlade]

Buddying makes games fun <3

Now what is hard when I have an actual town game.

[MathBlade]

Ahhh, apparently Math did. The one person who I would ignore pushing on a slip that isn't really a slip because from Math it's more of a personality tell. Dang xP

I hunt slips as either alignment XD
McMenno was like a dream lynch (sorry McMenno)

[MathBlade]

I am just terribad at it.

[JaeReed]

Ahhh, apparently Math did. The one person who I would ignore pushing on a slip that isn't really a slip because from Math it's more of a personality tell. Dang xP

I hunt slips as either alignment XD
McMenno was like a dream lynch (sorry McMenno)

Yeah that's why I didn't push on it. You're pretty much the only person I wouldn't push on what I considered to be pointing out something as a slip when it's not

An additional thing, I don't really crumb or at least if I do it's not intentional. If I were masons with grovyle I would have had FB on another mission as my lieutenant so we had eyes in both PTs overnight and could sort more people. I also wouldn't have needed him in the mission PT to claim my jail escape ability.

[JaeReed]

Buddying makes games fun <3

Now what is hard when I have an actual town game.

I don't mind being buddied by you. Just remember not to claim to me Though me outing you to Sooper made me more reluctant to scumread him and more eager to be on Klingon so I think that worked out in your best interests in the end, because I do think there was a decent chance of me turning on Sooper for the conflicting claims and a lot of why I didn't push it was because I'd have to admit to you that I may have outed you to scum. Little did I know....

[MathBlade]

Ahhh, apparently Math did. The one person who I would ignore pushing on a slip that isn't really a slip because from Math it's more of a personality tell. Dang xP

I hunt slips as either alignment XD
McMenno was like a dream lynch (sorry McMenno)

Yeah that's why I didn't push on it. You're pretty much the only person I wouldn't push on what I considered to be pointing out something as a slip when it's not

An additional thing, I don't really crumb or at least if I do it's not intentional. If I were masons with grovyle I would have had FB on another mission as my lieutenant so we had eyes in both PTs overnight and could sort more people. I also wouldn't have needed him in the mission PT to claim my jail escape ability.

At least I was right in why scum killed Grovyle XD

[karnos]

So, fun game.

My last game with MathBlade we were both scum and they were convinced there was a traitor in the game. So seeing my role as a traitor with scum MathBlade in this just made me laugh. Day 1 I just tried to ignore my role PM and play the same as I normally do as town, though I made a strong exception for McMeeno. I like to think I would have defended him bigtime if I wasn't scum, his gambit was dumb and obvious but there is no scum incentive behind it.

Day 2, being publicly copped sucks. It feels bad having no outs, and having no way to argue out of it, and yet being forced to continue playing. Would almost rather been vigged or otherwise killed. Still, I had to try to come up with a defense, and in the process I wanted to create as much doubt about MathBlade being aligned with me as possible. I lied about the bounty of course, if town lynched worlds I was trying to place my vote at the correct spot to win the bounty and gain bulletproof to survive the "gun". Alternatively I was hoping MathBlade would just shoot someone else and claim he was redirected, but with the town power roles in the game that would have probably been a scum claim, so it's just as well that he didn't.

I didn't mind the jail and lack of flips. I think it does hurt scum too, because they can't gain cred by busing and they can't try to get a townie miss-lynched because of lynching a town flip the previous day. Before I played on mafiascum, I played games without flip on death all the time and there was nothing inherently unbalanced about it. The game is just a bit different.

I didn't mind the randomness, but I also wasn't included on an missions dos I didn't take part in it directly.

The missions reminded me of The Resistance. Might be interesting to try a variant form of the game where the town win condition is based on succeeding on X missions rather than eliminating all scum.

p.s. I really wanted to say "I told you so" when early day 1 town was so insistent on taking only "confirmed town" while locking in MathBlade for the missions.

[MathBlade]

i had seen ABR's message so I knew I couldn't lie my way out of it.

Hence repetition of you will die and trying to get you lynched.

Was trying to hide existence of traitor from the game and kill FA.

[MathBlade]

I really wasn't expecting a sabatoge like throwing me out.

that was like too much ...

You should see us in the scum pt

"QUICK THROW HER OUT
DO IT NOW
OH GOD PLEASE BE FAST"

fucking lol

it shouldn't have worked though

I was full claimed to both abr and jae

Anyone jailkept was full claimed to me too