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[Titus]

@Luca, mastina has been promising that case for what feels like weeks now. Of course I expect it.

Second, my vote on Ythan is not a compromise at all. I have reasons to scumread him.

[OkaPoka]

meh

luca be honest how much of d1 did you read

[Luca Blight]

@Luca, mastina has been promising that case for what feels like weeks now. Of course I expect it.

Second, my vote on Ythan is not a compromise at all. I have reasons to scumread him.

I get that, but given Mastina's biggest SR just flipped Town it's quite possible her reads/view of the game may have altered somewhat, but instead of considering that it feels like you're gearing up for fight or flight mode.

What are your reasons for SR'ing Ythan?

meh

luca be honest how much of d1 did you read

I said before that I read up until page 43 quite closely before burning out and skimming until page 80 or so.

[Dunnstral]

given Mastina's biggest SR just flipped Town it's quite possible her reads/view of the game may have altered somewhat

good one

[Almost50]

also something pinging me awfully about a50 is they were talking about how last game they kinda just defaulted to a bad read on me and that I ended up obvtowning when they were scum but now this game apparently im a TR or at least a townlean even though I don't think ive done an awful lot deserving of one recently? seems like a slip up and mirrors what happened last game to an extent imo

??

P-edit:

disregard that whole point i think that was oka not a50

I guess... well.. Oka or not, it sure as hell wasn't me

P.S. For once I managed to read the next post before I submitted my response. Don't get used to it.

[Dunnstral]

VOTE: mastina

Case me or die. I want to have this out. I may not respond right away but I want you solved. No more vague meta statements. If I am wrong on you, I should be able to see you having genuine logic here, even if wrong.

This feels like Titus knows a case on her in incoming and she's trying to preemptively discredit it.

This is not a good argument

[OkaPoka]

mastina's top scumread was titus at eod @luca

[Titus]

@Luca, mastina changes her mind as often as gravity reverses itself. Rare but it does happen. When it does, she needs evidence. If she's town, I'd have it.

Based on your taking things out of context, I am thinking you might be scum. You most certainly are if mastina is town.

[Ythan]

P.S. For once I managed to read the next post before I submitted my response. Don't get used to it.

Reading two posts is nothing to brag about in your position.

[Luca Blight]

@Luca, mastina changes her mind as often as gravity reverses itself. Rare but it does happen. When it does, she needs evidence. If she's town, I'd have it.

Based on your taking things out of context, I am thinking you might be scum. You most certainly are if mastina is town.

The context being meta? Which makes no sense, given I haven't played with Mastina for years.

[Almost50]

P.S. For once I managed to read the next post before I submitted my response. Don't get used to it.

Reading two posts is nothing to brag about in your position.

Can someone (ANYONE) please explain to me what purpose this post is supposed to serve?

@Dunnstral
@Titus
@AGar
@Winter Flakes
@Cephrir
@Bell
@Xtoxm
@jjh927
@mastina
@Hopkirk
@OkaPoka
@innocentvillager
@Luca Blight

Any of you can respond. Thank you

[Luca Blight]

@Titus: what are you reasons for SR'ing Ythan?

[Luca Blight]

your*

[Luca Blight]

I like IV's thought process on why Winter Flakes is Town.

[Cephrir]

P.S. For once I managed to read the next post before I submitted my response. Don't get used to it.

Reading two posts is nothing to brag about in your position.

Can someone (ANYONE) please explain to me what purpose this post is supposed to serve?

@Dunnstral
@Titus
@AGar
@Winter Flakes
@Cephrir
@Bell
@Xtoxm
@jjh927
@mastina
@Hopkirk
@OkaPoka
@innocentvillager
@Luca Blight

Any of you can respond. Thank you

It makes him feel smug and superior, like all his other posts

[Cephrir]

VOTE: mastina

Case me or die. I want to have this out. I may not respond right away but I want you solved. No more vague meta statements. If I am wrong on you, I should be able to see you having genuine logic here, even if wrong.

This feels like Titus knows a case on her in incoming and she's trying to preemptively discredit it.

This is not a good argument

This is a confbiased thought but my first thought when I read that post was "this is a mediocre bus"

[Luca Blight]

I think A50 is Town based on his posting today.

[Titus]

@Luca, mastina changes her mind as often as gravity reverses itself. Rare but it does happen. When it does, she needs evidence. If she's town, I'd have it.

Based on your taking things out of context, I am thinking you might be scum. You most certainly are if mastina is town.

The context being meta? Which makes no sense, given I haven't played with Mastina for years.

EoD and personality. Meta's a tiny fraction.

You come in here and can selectively read whatever's going on to suit your position.

[Titus]

P.S. For once I managed to read the next post before I submitted my response. Don't get used to it.

Reading two posts is nothing to brag about in your position.

Can someone (ANYONE) please explain to me what purpose this post is supposed to serve?

@Dunnstral
@Titus
@AGar
@Winter Flakes
@Cephrir
@Bell
@Xtoxm
@jjh927
@mastina
@Hopkirk
@OkaPoka
@innocentvillager
@Luca Blight

Any of you can respond. Thank you

It makes him feel smug and superior, like all his other posts

+1

[Luca Blight]

Right now I believe the following players are Town:

IV
Mastina
Ceph
Poka
A50
AGar

[Ythan]

Oh it's you.

Ever acknowledge how much of your posting today has been predicated on completely failing to read the thread?

If I have to post it again I'm blowing the font up real big.

Has realizing your mistake wrt to the mod confirmed information in the second post influenced your reads on any thing in any way?

[Ythan]

@a50 obv(?)

[Luca Blight]

@Luca, mastina changes her mind as often as gravity reverses itself. Rare but it does happen. When it does, she needs evidence. If she's town, I'd have it.

Based on your taking things out of context, I am thinking you might be scum. You most certainly are if mastina is town.

The context being meta? Which makes no sense, given I haven't played with Mastina for years.

EoD and personality. Meta's a tiny fraction.

You come in here and can selectively read whatever's going on to suit your position.

Is this referring to me or Ythan?

I didn't 'selectively read' anything. You were already one of my biggest SR's, and your posting today hasn't made me feel any better about you. It's a tactic I've seen scum do often - they vote someone who they know will vote them, and preemptively try to undermine what they're about to say. You then try to say that if Mastina is Town then I'm scum, which opens you up to vote me in case you feel obliged to change your mind on Mastina. I don't see how this is a natural progression.

[Luca Blight]

VOTE: mastina

Case me or die. I want to have this out. I may not respond right away but I want you solved. No more vague meta statements. If I am wrong on you, I should be able to see you having genuine logic here, even if wrong.

This is an example of attacking before being attacked, of initiating the conflict before it arrives on your doorstep.

Basically, if Mastina continues to push Titus then Titus can say 'see, I knew she would do that', while also leaving the possibility open that Mastina could change her mind. Titus then continued this by associating me as being scum if Mastina is Town, which is completely baseless.

[Luca Blight]

Based on the D1 wagons I think it's unlikely both Titus and Ythan are scum, and right now I'm leaning towards Titus being the more likely of the two as her play seems more calculated than Ythan's.