Shattered Viewpoint and Thor665 have a history, and I am certain that Shattered Viewpoint would have pushed for a veto of Thor665 if he were scum over any protests Shattered Viewpoint's buddy might have made. Therefore, if no veto on Thor665 was made, that clears Shattered Viewpoint.
Near is town.
Giitah and Thor665 are most likely town based on their play in this game; I still need to read a Thor665 scum game just because I'm not at all familiar with it and want to be sure before writing him off as town, but otherwise I would not consider a Thor665 lynch today. Hyperion is town-ish. I think his observations while he went through everyone's isolated posts were good, but I'd like to see him engaged in the game in real time to get a better feel.
I'm not sure I buy Thor665's logic about Shattered Viewpoint being less likely scum due to his poor hammer on Kcdaspot. With apologies to Shattered Viewpoint, Shattered Viewpoint isn't known to be someone who, uh, actually plays the games he's in. I'm not sure what his recent scum meta has been like, though, so I probably should check up on that a little later. On the other hand, I don't know if Shattered Viewpoint would so blatantly follow Arugula's vote like that if Arugula were his buddy, so... bleh.
Anyway, L-1 votes aren't recommended as long as Shattered Viewpoint hasn't contributed something more substantial than fluff, useless one-line reads, or irresistible hammers.
Pretty sure of Arugula being scum. Beyond the stuff I mentioned in post 321, Arugula stated that he had been on Kcdaspot's side "for a while now" in post 205 despite never defending Kcdaspot beyond the whole "Kcdaspot might be a chosen townie!" debacle, even when Kcdaspot lingered at L-2 for most of the Day -- since post 38, actually -- and was everyone's favorite punching bag for about the same amount of time.
Shattered also would NOT have killed Applejack. While Applejack also thought that Thor and Gitah ARE probably towns, it was not as important for them number wise to keep applejack alive because other players also thought they were town. BUT Shattered had NO SUPPORT FROM ANYONE. For him to target to the last support that he could ever hope for would be UNLIKELY.
In post 382, Thor665 wrote:You've shown a marked inability to do much with him thus far - so I guess he could be scared theoretically, but no partner would be.
If you clear Giitah and are certain it's not Shattered and I together then why aren't you voting Hyperion? (though please don't, I'm just asking)
In post 382, Thor665 wrote:You've shown a marked inability to do much with him thus far - so I guess he could be scared theoretically, but no partner would be.
If you clear Giitah and are certain it's not Shattered and I together then why aren't you voting Hyperion?
"I'm not sure I buy Thor665's logic about Shattered Viewpoint being less likely scum "
And here's Applejack responding (about ME again, natch) giving his views on what was going down as regards Shattered.
yeah, so I'm scm because Shattered wouldn't have killed his awesome Applejack support...bwuh? That doesn't make sense, does it? Because if it makes sense I'm missing it.
Though it makes as much sense as a 'prep buss' comment too.
Whatever - answer my question, your case is either dumb or you are scum, and I'm sadly betting on dumb.
In post 394, Thor665 wrote:Why was Giitah not killed then, you derp? He was thought of as more townish and by more people. *I'm* the strongest town proponent you've had.
Gitah also thought I was town, I believe. So did Applejack. And Hyperion.
But more importantly: Gitah may not have gone after shattered. It was easily predicted that I would have.
THEREFORE, you didn't kill me. You wanted me to vote Shattered. Then your scum partner would have quick lynched.
Near, unvote from Thor, at the very least. I'll back you on lynching him later after we see Shattered's vote on Thor. Btw, I think I have everyone's support for the following?
Shattered, crossvote Thor or we're going to lynch you.
Oh, wait, I figured out my master plan, argue and prove to others that you and Giitah are town - defend Shattered one day, then use all my prowess to make him the mislynch the next day because I know he's going to power hammer a Chosen which is something scum needed to happen to even win the game. I'll call out my scumbuddy for lurking (and declared proven success when he responds) while I'm at it, because that's normal.
Edit: Oh dear gawd, I'm actually going to have to do this, aren't I?