MARATHON MAFIA: APOCALYPSE [game over]

[Hydra lol]

also Almost Chara did you guys get the notification of our loudness?

[Aristaly]

honestly I feel confident that NM is town at this point and people should unvote him? literally everyone wants to lynch him.

Aristaly pushing us because our targets died and not looking at scum motivation is awful along with everything else the slot did d2.

Alright, well unless the team is N_M and I or N_M amd you, the two of us not voting here co firms us town. I'm not betting on that being true bit thats nice as it limits associative possibilities!

So N_M either is scum or is being voted by both scum.
The math works out! This makes me much more comfortable with this wagon.

[Auscher]

that works too!

VOTE: Not_mafia

[fur hydra]

votecount 3.05

3 players voting for Not_Mafia (Hydra lol, Almost Chara, Auscher)

2 players not voting (Not_Mafia, Aristaly)

with 5 votes, it takes 3 to lynch.

mod notes: what if I was a votecount?

Not_Mafia was lynched. he was a

Spoiler: Not_Mafia's role

playername

mafia roleblocker, July 5-6 godfather (in the Vengeful sense)

you win when all town players are eliminated or when nothing can prevent this, or when Marathon Weekend ends.

PLAYERNAME is your partner. you may privately communicate with them in this thread:

you are a roleblocker. each night, you may target another player. if successful, any action that player performs that night will fail.

you are a godfather (in the Vengeful sense, where your faction loses if you are lynched) during July 5 and 6. as long as it's July 5 or 6 EST (the first 48 hours of the game), if you are lynched, the mafia faction will lose.

night 1 has started and will end 3 hours after this post is made! if you've already submitted a contingency night action, you don't need to do anything else, but otherwise, send in night actions by then!

[fur hydra]

votecount 4.01

3 players not voting (Almost Chara, Auscher, Aristaly)

with 3 votes, it takes 2 to lynch.

mod notes: wowie

Hydra lol was killed during night 3. they were a

Spoiler: Hydra lol's role

playername

town even night loud watcher

you win when all mafia are eliminated.

on even numbered nights, you can target another player. you will learn who else besides you targeted that player. they will learn that you targeted them, but not what ability you used.

day 4 has started!

[Almost Chara]

Whoever thought of this setup is about as crazy as I am.

@Auscher: Who did you target with your ability?
@Aristaly: Did you receive fruit from Auscher?

[Almost Chara]

^Obviously A50 (as if the first line didn't give that away already)

[Aristaly]

Yeah, I did receive fruit

but I don't know if that makes them town, though.

With

RR's

flip, I feel like that makes everyone in the hood have the same role and likely alignment

Our hydra's whole role is centered on being in a neigborhood

~ Taly

[Almost Chara]

Also, why did [insert scum name here] kill Hydra? They said they were EVEN Night Watcher, so had no action last night. I am strongly leaning Auscher is a SCUM Fruit Vendor. That way they can prove their role anyway.

I initially had a problem with them saying "you're going o hate our claim" but holding off until Hydra claimed first. I suspected that was to tailor their claim accordingly (as in: if they claimed Cop Auscher claims Miller), but then realized that's not the case because (a) claiming Miller would have got them lynched on the spot regardless, and (b) they claimed 2 minutes after Hydra did, so it was a short time for them to figure a suitable claim.

I also didn't like the "that works too" comment when they voted N_M. It sounded as if they had a plan then realized an alternative would still work.

Of course, I am being me, so I'll wait for Chara to come in and give their feedback. We don't have a hydra PT for this game, so I'm saying this here and they can show me why I'm being ridiculous in public for this once.

[Aristaly]

Yeah,

Ari

seems just as confused as me x-x

The thing that makes the most sense right now, is that

Auscher

gave our hydra fruit to validate their claim and to cast more suspicion on our slot. Since scum-

Auscher

would be going against their NK-fruit give pattern by offing

Hydra

.

This theory makes sense provided that

Auscher

wanted an excuse not to explain the reasons behind their role actions further.

Auscher

, you still haven't answered why you gave fruit to

Noobs

or

MMG

and what you expected from it.

It's either this or Mafia Neigbors exist here.

~~~

I'm not sure of anything, and I'm not voting until I have clarity and am in sync with

Ari

But

Ausuka

, since you seemed to think

NM

was town, even though

Ircher

hammered for your slot, what do you think of them flipping scum?

~ Taly

[Aristaly]

I really don't get

Auscher's

thinking or vote progression at all.

The mafia will win anyway if we don't finish the game today

I have 0 faith in NM to claim or post much at this point and I don't know if that's even AI for him.

Hydra, Chara, where are your heads at for votes?

~ Taly

We don't have time for WIFOM wth Hydra

wtf?

UNVOTE:

What was so off about my posts that caused you to unvote?

I was asking

NM

and

Hydra's

thinking, and mechnically, town WILL lose if we do not endgame in some way today - so we needed a lynch.

You were the only person voting here

Auscher

, so even

if

you falsely assumed I'm scum about to L-1, what was the point?

Because if you believed

NM

was scum at the time, there wouldn't have been an automatic 2 votes onto them from the duo in your perspective.

VOTE: NM

VOTE: Not Mafia

that works too!

VOTE: Not_mafia

And then here... You only cared about being the hammer it seemed once

NM

and

Chara

put up their votes.

You literally hammered

NM

off the pretense of

"this lynch could work best!"

Where 370 is you, again, saying this slot is

"awful"

, but you don't vote us???

But that completely contradicts your earlier unvote and sentiment of the game?

~ Taly

[Auscher]

Ausuka hammered.

I think Ausuka unvoted because they wanted more time and felt much more confident on our other scumread, Aristaly whereas I guess Not_Mafia was just a Null read.

~Ircher

[Almost Chara]

So, Aristaly was your SR and you still targeted them with fruit instead of us?????

[Auscher]

We gave fruit to MMG and noobs because we townread them, simple sas that.

This last night, we gave fruit to Aristaly because I was 95% certain Aristaly wouldn’t be night killed. As scum, that obv. Isn’t gonna happen. On the other hand, Town!Aristaly is a good mislynch target in LyLo as our slot has expressed our scumread there multiple times.
~Ircher

[Almost Chara]

I guess I should've said instead of us

or Hydra

, but it seems my preconception of your slot being the other Mafia is getting in the way.

[Auscher]

Yeah, I did receive fruit

but I don't know if that makes them town, though.

With

RR's

flip, I feel like that makes everyone in the hood have the same role and likely alignment

Our hydra's whole role is centered on being in a neigborhood

~ Taly

This is a really bad post.

How does being neighbors confirm anyone? Roulette simply flipped town neighbor, nothing special. In what way does that clear an entire neighborhood? Your whole line of reasoning here is just really bad and illogical, and it also gives you a good way to push a ML on our slot.
~Ircher

[Auscher]

I guess I should've said instead of us

or Hydra

, but it seems my preconception of your slot being the other Mafia is getting in the way.

Again, both Hydra lol and you had a much better chance to be nightkilled from my perspective than Aristaly and me. Scum have no reason to lie about receiving fruit, so it was more of a matter of actually confirming our role for once.
~Ircher

[Almost Chara]

Also, it's interesting to note the first two claimed targets were the NKs, I suppose this wasn't the original plan and they intended to out there was a scum RB, but then saw they could end the game on D3 and changed their mind, then N_M got voted and they -once again- reverted to bussing for Town cred.

I better shut up and wait for Chara as I'm starting to sound exactly as I would in the Hydra PT.

But really, my main problem with Scum!Aristaly is I can't see either of them killing Hydra lol here. It would always be the Fruit Vendor, or -if they wanted to play that card- our slot to reassert the notion of identical role PMs. (I certainly would've gone for the Fruit Vendor if I was scum 100% of the time).

[Auscher]

Also, why did [insert scum name here] kill Hydra? They said they were EVEN Night Watcher, so had no action last night. I am strongly leaning Auscher is a SCUM Fruit Vendor. That way they can prove their role anyway.

I initially had a problem with them saying "you're going o hate our claim" but holding off until Hydra claimed first. I suspected that was to tailor their claim accordingly (as in: if they claimed Cop Auscher claims Miller), but then realized that's not the case because (a) claiming Miller would have got them lynched on the spot regardless, and (b) they claimed 2 minutes after Hydra did, so it was a short time for them to figure a suitable claim.

I also didn't like the "that works too" comment when they voted N_M. It sounded as if they had a plan then realized an alternative would still work.

Of course, I am being me, so I'll wait for Chara to come in and give their feedback. We don't have a hydra PT for this game, so I'm saying this here and they can show me why I'm being ridiculous in public for this once.

1) You really think fruit vendor that targeted the mod is the best claim we can come up with?
2) 2 minutes is not enough time to think up a good fakeclaim. In this case, I think this was a matter of simply having time to post. If it was thirty minutes or even fifteen, you have a point, but that isn’t the case.
3) “That works too” was Ausuka acknowledging the time limit and ensuring a lynch occurred. Like I said earlier, our primary scumread was not Not_Mafia because he was more nullread. The alternative here would’ve been lynch Aristaly first, but I explained to Ausuka in hydra PT that there was way more support for a Not_Mafia Lynch. Since I was for the lynch, and Ausuka wasn’t against it, “it works too” because we end up lynching the other scum first and can push Aristaly today.
~Ircher

[Auscher]

Also, it's interesting to note the first two claimed targets were the NKs, I suppose this wasn't the original plan and they intended to out there was a scum RB, but then saw they could end the game on D3 and changed their mind, then N_M got voted and they -once again- reverted to bussing for Town cred.

I better shut up and wait for Chara as I'm starting to sound exactly as I would in the Hydra PT.

But really, my main problem with Scum!Aristaly is I can't see either of them killing Hydra lol here. It would always be the Fruit Vendor, or -if they wanted to play that card- our slot to reassert the notion of identical role PMs. (I certainly would've gone for the Fruit Vendor if I was scum 100% of the time).

Why would scum kill the fruit vendor?

@Mod: Can scum kill and use an ability at the same time?

[Auscher]

Especially when we make a pretty good mislynch target at this point? You don’t kill off your mislynches.
~Ircher

[Auscher]

I really don't get

Auscher's

thinking or vote progression at all.

The mafia will win anyway if we don't finish the game today

I have 0 faith in NM to claim or post much at this point and I don't know if that's even AI for him.

Hydra, Chara, where are your heads at for votes?

~ Taly

We don't have time for WIFOM wth Hydra

wtf?

UNVOTE:

What was so off about my posts that caused you to unvote?

I was asking

NM

and

Hydra's

thinking, and mechnically, town WILL lose if we do not endgame in some way today - so we needed a lynch.

You were the only person voting here

Auscher

, so even

if

you falsely assumed I'm scum about to L-1, what was the point?

Because if you believed

NM

was scum at the time, there wouldn't have been an automatic 2 votes onto them from the duo in your perspective.

VOTE: NM

VOTE: Not Mafia

that works too!

VOTE: Not_mafia

And then here... You only cared about being the hammer it seemed once

NM

and

Chara

put up their votes.

You literally hammered

NM

off the pretense of

"this lynch could work best!"

Where 370 is you, again, saying this slot is

"awful"

, but you don't vote us???

But that completely contradicts your earlier unvote and sentiment of the game?

~ Taly

1) Ausuka unvoted because they wanted more time for discussion and didn’t want a hammer to immediately occur. It had nothing to do specifically with your posts or anyone else’s during that timeframe. Again, you are analyzing this in a way that suggests you are scum. The “wtf” should’ve been a huge clue that we had a reads mismatch because it was obviously directed as me as a “what are you doing rn” sort of thing.

2) I left the voting decision in Ausuka’s hands because they were the one whom unvoted. I really don’t find your interpretation of events to be really fair to us

3) The Not_Mafia Lynch “could work best” because it ensures scum get lynched without stalling out to deadline. Again, we both felt more strongly about Aristaly being scum (Ausuka to a greater degree), but pushing that read at the time would’ve basically resulted in the timer expiring. It definitely does not contradict sentiment previously expressed; it expresses the sentiment that we would prefer a different lynch but acknowledge that voting a shared read is better for Town. Scum is would be better served by waiting it out.
~Ircher

[Auscher]

hi
i think noobs actually has a chance of being town here
scum is probably in {rushing, N_M, Almost}
VOTE: N_M
this slot needs the most pressure

If he's gonna post he's gonna post. This vote is the easiest throwaway shit you could have done!

Why Almost and Rushing, out of curiosity?

N_M has said nothing

AI

ftfy

Why vote for pressure at this point?

So who's scum? I missed day 1

Supposedly you but I think that's the laziest read available.

I believe scum are within HydraLOL, Roulette, and Ausucher.

hi
i think noobs actually has a chance of being town here
scum is probably in {rushing, N_M, Almost}
VOTE: N_M
this slot needs the most pressure

Pretty much agree with this lol. Thanks Invis!

Guys we're running out of time!!

Can we lynch rushing today?

So you have a pressure vote on a non-entity player and yet are worried about the lynch being secured? You're trying to push a panic lynch through without actually committing to it. You're so goddamned scummy! I can't even!

Random didn't play again? >.<
We think that Aristaly is town, and Almost Chara could be scum. In fact we think that there is one scum among those two.
We also think that noobs is bad town rather than scum.

Still not liking Auscher. There is still >2 days to deadline and we should be turboing the last days rather than the first days, and I think you are trying to abuse this mindset to hop on the largest wagon.

Indeed, I have reason to believe there is scum within RR, Chara, and us. I believe it has a far greater chance of being RR. However, we can sort that later.

VOTE: HydraLol

This needs to die.

Oh, with that 312, I'm feeling much less confident in

Hydra

-scum, they could be town actually.

I don't think scum would reassess here

~ Taly

P-Edit

Mylo (Me ) replaced into Pick Your Poison. And Mylo (:P) was in Splatoon mafia with you.

Oh! I forgot about that.

Also, I'm having fun this game. Actually, when I don't inject emotions, I have MORE fun. Not really stressful unless I make it be.

Plus, I'm still rethinking my reads as the game progresses right now, and I do reversals much more often as town.

I'm a

Town Neighbor

, I'm in a hood with

Chara, this hydra, and RR

The 3 of us suspected 1 scum in our hood, but with

RR's

flip being the exact same role as ours, I think

Almost Chara

is near conftown here.

We claim Fruit Vendor (who apparently chose bad targets).

We targeted Make Mafiascum Great N1 and Noobs N2.

lmao what a coincidence.

Why exactly did you give them fruit and what did you expect from it?

But yeah, I'm burnt out at the moment, but I'm confident with

Chara

hydra being town, so no paranoia there.

Hydra

is towny to me at the moment... I don't know about

NM

but

NM

is frustrating to read at best.

~ Taly

why does roulette's flip make you confident we're town, Taly?

NM does need to claim.

Auscher's targets are what they are, but unless they're just scum hoping the targets are too suspicious to actually be scummy, i'm not sure it really makes them scum. why claim fruit vendor at all if they can't prove it?
i guess they could have been concerned about a tracker who was keeping quiet.

Because

RR

had the exact same role as we did, and it makes sense to think that all the people in the hood are there because of their role

I'm not 100% on this, but it's a concrete reason for a townread based off claims and I don't know how

Auscher

is possibly town at this point.

~ Taly

The mafia will win anyway if we don't finish the game today

I have 0 faith in NM to claim or post much at this point and I don't know if that's even AI for him.

Hydra, Chara, where are your heads at for votes?

~ Taly

honestly I feel confident that NM is town at this point and people should unvote him? literally everyone wants to lynch him.

Aristaly pushing us because our targets died and not looking at scum motivation is awful along with everything else the slot did d2.

Alright, well unless the team is N_M and I or N_M amd you, the two of us not voting here co firms us town. I'm not betting on that being true bit thats nice as it limits associative possibilities!

So N_M either is scum or is being voted by both scum.
The math works out! This makes me much more comfortable with this wagon.

Bad posts by the Aristaly slot.
~Ircher

[Auscher]

votecount 2.06

3 players voting rushing roulette (Hydra lol, Auscher, Aristaly)
2 players voting Aristaly (noobs, rushing roulette)

2 players not voting (Not_Mafia, Almost Chara)

with 7 votes, it takes 4 to lynch.

mod notes: I for one can't remember the last time I felt any kind of warmth, sun-related or otherwise.

rushing roulette was lynched! they were a

Spoiler: rushing roulette's role

playername

town neighbor

you win when all mafia are eliminated.

[REDACTED] (is/are) your neighbor(s). you may privately communicate with them in this thread: [REDACTED]

night 2 has started and will end 3 hours after this post is made! if you've already submitted a contingency night action, you don't need to do anything else, but otherwise, send in night actions by then!

There’s nothing special about Roulette’s role. The fact you have “the exact same role” is not a surprise; in fact, it should be a *given* if the two of you are the same alignment BECAUSE GOOD MODERATORS DON’T MAKE IT WHERE TOWN CAN LEARN INFO BY COMPARING ROLE PMs. If that isn’t what you are talking about.... I don’t see how having a person with a plain neighbor role that matches yours tells you anything about the third person in the neighborhood.... Like again, explain how Rushing flipping with “your role” gives you any extra info (besides Rushing’s alignment ofc) about the neighborhood than without it. There’s nothing unusual about two vanilla neighbors in a setup; it’s something that happens a lot actually—vanilla neighbors that is.
~Ircher

[Auscher]

With

RR's

flip, I feel like that makes everyone in the hood have the same role and likely alignment

Our hydra's whole role is centered on being in a neigborhood

~ Taly

ircher already said this I think but ^this is shit-tier. because one neighbour is town that makes the rest of the hood town? give me a break.

-ausuka