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Post Post #425 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:37 pm

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Twomz, that's a good point, I didn't remember that. I still thought that a Cop would still end up town, regardless, though.
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Post Post #426 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:37 pm

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Recent developments have changed my mind.
unvote, vote m4yhem


It's way possible that m4yhem was lying hoping that no one would counter-claim. Also voting no lynch is never a good idea because we get no info tomorrow blahblahblah. So it could be a scum tell hoping to get us to vote no lynch. If there is a real prof around, he might not be counter-claiming if it's a pro-town power role.

Just to clarify what I said in my last post (obviously I've changed my mind since then): I was saying that Thesp's playstyle didn't mean that he wasn't scum, he could be using that as an excuse.
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Post Post #427 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:44 pm

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Well, the problem with saying that the roles are definate random is that it means that the mafia could, say, get the Vig, giving them two kills a night. Among other things.
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Post Post #428 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:55 pm

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"Bastard" mafia. The mafia could very well have the cop the vig and the doc. We'll just have to deal w/ it and lynch the scum, reguardless of claims.
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Post Post #429 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:16 pm

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I was under the impression it was called "Bastard" mafia because of the "Bastardize" mechanic. I see your point, but I still think that there's a high chance that Cop/Doc/Vig were exempt from the random roles.
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Post Post #430 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:36 pm

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I'm a very cautious player of this game. You act too fast, throw votes around, you might see a quicklynch where its not needed. And since I was lacking time when I posted that, I didn't peruse the backlogs to find votes. I know its somewhere close. Say I had placed my vote right then. If he's -1, the day would end and right now I think there's still some planning to do for tomorrow.

I.e. possible useful actions for the cleric/genealogists/etc, and discuss the possibility of who is the most scummiest to determine who would be a good target for a roleblock, etc.
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Post Post #431 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:25 pm

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I don't get the debate about scum/town goals for the Mathematics Professor.

Knowing Pariah, I can definitely say that he would tell the Professor to do scummy things as town and towny things as scum.

Regardless of the above, LAL goes into effect.
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Post Post #432 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:31 pm

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I don't like that Bogre is trying to say that we should guide the Genealogist's and Cleric's movements. They should do their own thing, if they are town, and avoid being outted until they have something worth saying.
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Post Post #433 (ISO) » Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:18 pm

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Well I'm dead.

I was telling the truth about my role this time.

Sorry guys

Good Luck!

Goodbye cruel world etc etc

unvote, vote M4yhem
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Post Post #434 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2006 12:39 am

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TMH, I think you're scum because you are supportung m4yhem so blatantly. Naturally, if he turns out to be scum, that list will change a bit.
I thought it was a turkey, I swear to God!
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Post Post #435 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:17 am

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kirbyphreak wrote:TMH, I think you're scum because you are supportung m4yhem so blatantly. Naturally, if he turns out to be scum, that list will change a bit.
I attacked M4yhem right here:
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M4yhem wrote:I am the cop. Now unvote me.
Why should we unvote you because of this? First we will want some specifics. Which role are you in particular? There are several roles that could be said to be a cop. If you are scum, then you basically know the alignment of every one in the game. Even if you are a cop, you could still be scum. This is just a crap claim on many levels.
And was voting him for a good period of time.
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Post Post #436 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2006 7:20 am

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Nai wrote:I don't like that Bogre is trying to say that we should guide the Genealogist's and Cleric's movements. They should do their own thing, if they are town, and avoid being outted until they have something worth saying.
I'm not saying we should out them AT ALL.

I'm saying some suggestions should be thrown out there for them to consider along with whatever decisions they're making themselves.
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Post Post #437 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:14 am

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Bogre wrote:I'm a very cautious player of this game. You act too fast, throw votes around, you might see a quicklynch where its not needed. And since I was lacking time when I posted that, I didn't peruse the backlogs to find votes. I know its somewhere close. Say I had placed my vote right then. If he's -1, the day would end and right now I think there's still some planning to do for tomorrow.

I.e. possible useful actions for the cleric/genealogists/etc, and discuss the possibility of who is the most scummiest to determine who would be a good target for a roleblock, etc.
That would not be a quicklynch at all, and after you place your vote, you still have a bit of time to discuss targets..

Although guiding anything but the vig (and then, only when he's come out, etc.) is bad IMO.
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Post Post #438 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:59 am

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I still don't like trying to guide roles. Townies should be able to follow their own instincts. A non-confirmed player trying to guide t e roles is very, very scummy, in my opinion.
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Post Post #439 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:49 pm

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Nai wrote:I still don't like trying to guide roles. Townies should be able to follow their own instincts. A non-confirmed player trying to guide t e roles is very, very scummy, in my opinion.
However, they still have final say on all actions. What people can do are merely suggestions.
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Post Post #440 (ISO) » Tue Sep 12, 2006 2:17 pm

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Vote Count


M4yhem: (7) Fritzler, Chamber, kirbyphreak, Zindaras, shadowlurker, Thesp, Nai
Thesp: (2) M4yhem, spectrumvoid
Shadowlurker: (3) Bogre, themanhimself, Twomz


7 to lynch.


HAMMER TIME!


You all drag M4yhem out to the Starbucks coffee maker.

Fifteen minutes and fifteen bags of grounds later, a scorched M4yhem is revealed to be a
mafiate math professor.


It is now Night One. Send in Night roles. No deadline unless necessary.

EDIT: Vote counting errors corrected, even though it still was correct on who was lynched.
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Post Post #441 (ISO) » Wed Sep 13, 2006 9:19 am

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Title changed and thread closed.

Oops.
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Post Post #442 (ISO) » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:48 pm

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This is ACTUALLY locked now.

I am an idiot.

That is all.
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Post Post #443 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:16 pm

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Good morning. Feeling good? I hope so.

Anyway...

You find
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can't discern his alignment or role.


Farther off,
Spectrumvoid
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Spectrumvoid was a town aligned member of the bastard patrol.


It's day two! Image

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch. No deadline for obvious reasons.
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Post Post #444 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:35 pm

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Pariah wrote:You find
Nai
with a bullet in his forehead. You check his pulse, and find that it has the same beat as "Free Bird" before he finally passes on. Oddly...you
can't discern his alignment or role.
Odd..


Vote: Twomz

After a reread with the knowledge M4yhem is now town. His scumminess has dropped the least out of the people I was suspicious of yesterday.
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Post Post #445 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:35 pm

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EBWOP: "M4yhem is scum" not "M4yhem is now town"
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Post Post #446 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:09 pm

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RAWR!

Vote: ShadowLurker.


OBV OBV OBV

This day doesn't have to last very long.
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Post Post #447 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:11 pm

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Thesp wrote:RAWR!

Vote: ShadowLurker.


OBV OBV OBV

This day doesn't have to last very long.
So you'd rather have a quick day than one where reactions, last minute connections, attempts to defend myself would be made?

Nice.



Well, I'll probably be lynched today, the only people who showed any signs of not thinking me suspicious were M4yhem, Nai, and spectrumvoid, who are all nicely dead. :cry:
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Post Post #448 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:19 pm

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I can't imagine why M4yhem and Nai didn't think you were suspicious. :rolleyes:
ShadowLurker wrote:Well, I'll probably be lynched today, because I'm scum. I'm scum scum scummity scum. I can't wait for night to fall so I can kill you all in your sleep. I eat babies for breakfast and feast on the blood of the innocent for dessert. It's a shame I gave myself away with my interaction with M4yhem on Day 1, so today can be so incredibly short the town won't give the scum any ideas as to who might be cop or doc.
Also, I fixed what you meant to say.
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Post Post #449 (ISO) » Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:30 pm

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I'm going to wait for more people (specifically Fritz) to post before I decide which way i'm going to go for today.

On Nai... either scum/vig kills won't be showed... or maybe the vig was bastardized so it didn't show... I can't really think of any other possiblity beyond Mayhem's "equation" having something to do w/ an uninformed mafia kill.

Just to make it public knowledge... a VERY minor scum tell makes me want to vote for Thesp. I won't reveal what it is... because if I do, then it wouldn't work anymore (I've used it in other games w/ mixed results). It's almost solid WIFOM though, that's why i'm not voting for him.
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