Open 497: Tit for Tat (Game over!)

[Radioactive Wolf]

Yeah, he did go after the obvious clown Day 1.

But you did too

[RachMarie]

yeah but that was after he had tunneled so much on Alice then suddenly he switched over to Bert.

I voted for Bert cause I thought he might be scumz.

[RachMarie]

In fact when he self hammered I thought for sure he was scumz was really shocked by him flipping town after that self hammer which is why I was so irked by it. Town should not self hammer..

[Antagon]

"How could you just sit there and let them spy on me?!"
"They were clever, Leonard. They took advantage of my complete lack of interest in what you were doing."

Vote Count 3.02

(Unchanged as of Post 420)

No Lynch - 1 (RachMarie)
Not Voting - ThAdmiral, Radioactive Wolf, TMTOLBTWNTOF, Ankamius, Sakura Hana
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch and 3 to No Lynch.

Deadline is June 24th, 7 A.M. PDT or in (expired on 2013-06-24 07:00:00)
Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[Sakura Hana]

I agree with ank on Rach, im not 100% sure on ThAd tho.

[Radioactive Wolf]

yeah but that was after he had tunneled so much on Alice then suddenly he switched over to Bert.

I voted for Bert cause I thought he might be scumz.

In fact when he self hammered I thought for sure he was scumz was really shocked by him flipping town after that self hammer which is why I was so irked by it. Town should not self hammer..

oh?

So, Ad and who else?

[RachMarie]

not sure about Sakura or Ank ?

Need to take a look at VCA.

[Sakura Hana]

I'm not sure what's the town motivation behind withholding info "in hopes scum doesnt catch it" tho if you're scum it makes sense to do that. you're statement wasn't wifom towards scum, it was hiding one possibility of night actions towards people that hadn't figured it out yet.

[RachMarie]

no FFS

I wanted to hold back info from SCUM not town. What possible scum motivation would there be in hiding from scum budz a way to prevent the vig from shooting? And since I thought there was a chance you were scum and still do I did not want to reveal your mistake to you...

[Sakura Hana]

So what makes you think I'm scum?

[Ankamius]

Radioactive Wolf and TMT are confirmed town. I know I'm not town.

Sakura Hana is a very strong town read.

That leaves you two.

[RachMarie]

1. Wolf and TMT are unCCed PR claims so town
2. I know I am town,

3. By PoE that leave you and ank as well as ThAd as the scum pool. 2 of the 3 of you must be scumz.

In order
ThAd Primary
Sakura Secondary
Ank Tertiary

[Sakura Hana]

Except i'm not certain whether you're town and you have done nothing to make me think otherwise so far.

[Sakura Hana]

By PoE i also know i'm town, so that'd leave you, thad and ank.

[ThAdmiral]

Lets just all put our cards on the table.

vote: rach

reasons:
1) the alice "accidental" hammer
2) the attempted "no lynch" today that wouldn't help us at all
3)

uggh Wolf I was trying not to mention that part cause I did not want to give scumz ideas just in case they had not seen the flaw in Sakura's reasoning

So we gamble?

What do you think of popcorn claiming Wolf?

[Sakura Hana]

Oh hey i see someone in the same train of thought as me.

[RachMarie]

I can show I always support NL in MYLO so yeah that does not fly

I already explained about the derp hammer.

Way to misrep me there ThAd...

Well I am not sure if it is ank or Sakura but more sure of my primary scumspect..

VOTE: ThAd


umm same train of thought? so you admitting you are his scum budz there Sakura?

I hate that we have to lynch like this in MYLO ... I much prefer NL in MYLO, but yeah that is not gonna work here

[Sakura Hana]

So you support NL, even knowing that scum would do what RW suggested, i would rather not "hope" that scum would miss it and go ahead and warn the town about it. So your play today has been really awkward which is raising a lot of flags for me.

[Sakura Hana]

6 players left 2 scumz left its MYLO folks

VOTE: No Lynch

I still say MYLO we should vote NL .

No

All that scum are going to do is jailkeep me and kill TMT.

The odds are as good as they're going to get. Now I want to stop talking about it.

uggh Wolf I was trying not to mention that part cause I did not want to give scumz ideas just in case they had not seen the flaw in Sakura's reasoning

So we gamble?

What do you think of popcorn claiming Wolf?

I can believe you about always supporting NL during MyLo, however you realized something i didnt, and you were hiding it, yet you still supported NL, until RW found it out, then you propose gambling, why would town want to gamble during MyLo?, popcorn massclaim i dont even know what that is but we already had both PRs out, so my guess is that you were attempting at getting town cred.

VOTE: Rach

And yes i did agree with the massclaim but i also questioned how did you plan on finding scum with it, all we would have ended up is with all non-confirmed towns claiming vanilla town. You never told me how did you plan on finding scum with a massclaim, i think i know why, because you werent trying to find scum in the first place.

[RachMarie]

No
I dont need town cred I am town.

I was hoping to use the popcorn mass claim to help narrow down the pool more because I wanted to be as sure as possible to hit scum and win the game.

[Sakura Hana]

I was hoping to use the popcorn mass claim to help narrow down the pool more because I wanted to be as sure as possible to hit scum and win the game.

And how did you plan on doing that exactly?

[RachMarie]

based on how people claimed. but it is moot now, was a bit of a hope more than anything.

I am not used to a game where we do not NL in MYLO. Normally I would be very suspicious of anyone who suggested it, but the situation here sucks.

I am tired atm and going to go to bed but give me some time to really go through this thread and see if I can better nail it down. I want us to win and not scumz winning.

[Sakura Hana]

Ok, that seems natural
UNVOTE:
So if I you're town the scum team would be ThAd and Ank.

[Ankamius]

I still say MYLO we should vote NL .

No

All that scum are going to do is jailkeep me and kill TMT.

The odds are as good as they're going to get. Now I want to stop talking about it.

uggh Wolf I was trying not to mention that part cause I did not want to give scumz ideas just in case they had not seen the flaw in Sakura's reasoning

This is basically admitting that she doesn't want this situation to be public knowledge. The only way this really makes sense is if she wanted to take full advantage of it, since this looks a lot like a desperate ploy to save the game from a scum perspective.

Either way, this just feels like a really awkward gambit for town to make.

[Ankamius]

VOTE: RachMarie

Also willing to vote ThAd if he gets more support.