Designer Mafia II: Game Over!

[Fuldu]

Nope, I'm comfortable killing off one side and dealing with the other later.

vote: the silent speaker

[Mgm]

TSS, that was bad logic.
It is in the town's best interest to kill of the red mafia and bring the night kills down to 1.

I'd be quite happy voting for TSS, but I'd still like to hear from PBug. Is your role half of a married couple?

[Fuldu]

Vote: TSS

I've only read this page, but the concensus seems to be if I'm not the other half of the married couple, tss is scum. I'm not the other half, so TSS=scum.

Bear with me while I read 18 pages.

Right there, Mgm. He says he isn't.

[Mgm]

In that case, I'm ready to vote TSS.
Do we have anything else to discuss?

[TBuG]

You got investigated by the Master Spy, a neutralish investigative cult recruiter.

Ah, okay.

[the silent speaker]

Nope, I'm comfortable killing off one side and dealing with the other later.

But by then they'll have a voting bloc. Plus, if Norinel's role does allow a double lynch, we can destroy the whole Brown mafia today anyway by going with him and PeaceBringer.

Mgm, it's to the town's advantage to whittle the scum down in tandem. That way they might kill each other.

Also, vote count?

[Mgm]

Mgm, it's to the town's advantage to whittle the scum down in tandem. That way they might kill each other.

The key word being "might". The might kill each other they might not. Do you really want the death of scum to depend on choices of other scum?

Yes, with a double lynch we could potentially destroy the brown mafia, but we'd have to be sure on who the members are first.

[the silent speaker]

Do you really want the death of scum to depend on choices of other scum?

Yes.

You ought to be sure by now who the Browns are. Fuldu, PBuG, BlueSin and to a slightly lesser extent KingEnigma are all cleared or as good as; if I had allies, they'd have confirmed my role claim; Norinel is sure to be one of the two (if he weren't, PB could have simply stepped into the roleclaim all ready-made and prettied-up, voted Norinel and been done with it), and the other is either you or PeaceBringer. I'm pretty sure PB is the scum, and the chance that he isn't is one I'm willing to take.

[KingEnigma]

The flaw that I see in this, is if we leave two groups alive, we still do not know the abilities of the scum. So by leaving the scum alive we are leaving a window of MORE than 1 kill (or 2 kills.) This is Designer mafia and in that we can not assume anything. I would like to take down one scum that we know we can and leave the other scum out there for now. Take as much fate in your own hands as you can.

If we can get a scum right now, lets do it.

[Mgm]

TSS, why do you consider Fuldu to be innocent? As far as I can remember, he's the only player who didn't role claim, which doesn't really invite trust.

Could someone post an updated claim list? I'm kinda short on time right now.

[KingEnigma]

Why are we still discussing this though? We know we have a scum, and I'm not sure why we arent lynching TSS. Ive given my reasons and we may lose another townie, but at this point we should still be safe with a 1 for 1 trade. If what TSS says is true he is the last of his mafia and thus we only have one kill. (never assume anything in designer?)

[b/]

Vote: the silent speaker [/b]

[KingEnigma]

and that of course was supposed to be

Vote: the silent speaker

[Mgm]

There's no doubt on TSS being guilty, but that's not the point.
If I understand correctly, we're discussing - trying to find out who the scum are and whether Norinel should get in a second lynch before night fall and - if so - on who.

[Norinel]

The second lynch will happen; once we make a lynch decision, it'll be like a new day with no night in between.

But second-guessing the mafia choices sucks, the mafia have provable abilities, and tss is scum.

[PeaceBringer]

who is holding this up?

[Mgm]

Norinel, have you chosen your second lynch victim earlier (if so - would you like to share their name?), or can we still get a majority vote from everyone to determine who it should be?

[Norinel]

It's a majority thing, just like a second day on the heels of this one.

[the silent speaker]

In that case, it's especially to our advantage to lynch Norinel with the first. He'll turn up scum, I'm confident, and then you will be spoiled for choice.

[Norinel]

The thing is that I'm not confident, and neither are the other two or three people voting for you.

Can we have a vote count?

[PeaceBringer]

why are we at a standstill?

What is the vote count?

If folks do not want to vote TSS then perhaps give a good reason not to, I cannot think of any.

[BlueSin]

unvote and Vote: the silent speaker

if I didn't yet.

[Flying Dutchman]

And that's the final vote. BlueSin makes a majority, and you quickly tie up The Silent Speaker, and go home for a good night's rest. But the sun just won't go down...... You look at your watch, but it seems to be frozen in some weird way. You all go back to the town square, and decide you will discuss another while for today, and perhaps another lynch? But then you all see BlueSin's body on the ground. It's obvious he has suffered a lot of pain, and careful examination reveals a small cut in the back, made with a sharp blade. The wound isn't very deep, but deadly poison just needs a small entrance........

After a quick search you discover a knife in the bushes nearby, it's obvious now how The Silent Speaker got his name: He makes a statement without saying a word...........

Luckily a search of their houses reveals that they both were

EVIL

! Not just a bit bad, but really, really

EVIL

! The town rejoices, and decides that they're well on their job to rid the town of all evil! There can't be many unwanted persons left.......

They hope...............

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The Silent Speaker, Mafia Scorpio, lynched day 4

BlueSin, Mafia Faker, killed day 4

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It is now day 4½.
6 alive means 4 will end someone's live in a rather painful way.

[Fuldu]

It's hard to imagine how that could have gone any better. Plus, the silent speaker's death and role post tells us who's left that's lying. We had two deaths last night, with only two scum groups left, so no kills were blocked. Taking into account that tss didn't have an active non-kill night choice, only the passive poisoning of his lyncher, he couldn't have targeted King Enigma last night. Given that they're clearly on different teams, I can't figure out why they stuck up for one another, but I can't find any way to square KE's claim of having been targeted by tss with the available data.

vote: King Enigma

[Mgm]

KingEnigma, do you have any explanations on why you didn't get killed after being targetted by TSS? That seems to be the only thing he could've been trying to do.

[PeaceBringer]

Okay HUGE FOS to FULDU there

making up stuff about TSS role and using it to cast suspiscion on otheres.

Go read the Mafia Scorpion role on page one.

The person who casts the lynch vote gets killed.

So it is not someone else who did the killing.