Town:
Marci -
Spiffeh - was leaning town, strengthened by the brian flip
Shello - I was on the fence about them in day 1, but I liked their reaction to the guilty, and the more I think about their claimed role the more convinced I am that it is quite literally a perfectly designed town role for the set up (shout out to Ceph).
Tentative town:
Cat Scratch Fever
morph the cat (fferyllt & Cabd)
Save The Dragons
Even more tentitive town:
Oblivion - I felt pretty strongly about this read day 1, but they have been gone for so long, and I lack object permanence, so this read is flatlining
Dannflor - I distinctly remember thinking that Dann looked townie, but I quite literally cannot recall why.
Dunn - I leaned town on him for his read progression on me day 2, and especially liked that he actually went and looked at our prior game when I mentioned that he had been wrong before, but I having a lack of alignment thoughts on him today
Meh:
Firebringer
Firebagel
PenguinPower
Meh, Meh:
Sunflower
Would kill:
Gypyx
experience
For what it is worth, it apologizes for being gone. It maybe doesn't have time for this, but it really wants to? It is having a hard time engaging with this game past its frustration of everything being over its head between personal relationships, players communicating with hidden winks and nudges, neighbourhoods it isn't in it's.... a lot.
Add onto that that it has dental surgery this upcoming week to finish what happened to it a few weeks ago (broken tooth) and so it has really not been in the right place.
It could use some help re-inserting itself into the game, it feels, because right now it is... Daunted, is the correct word it feels.
This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.
But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:
It doesn't know what that help looks like, be it players chatting with it and asking it questions or attempting to do mental models on players with 200 pages of content to... sift through....
It.... yeah. Just yeah.
This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.
But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:
Town:
Marci -
Spiffeh - was leaning town, strengthened by the brian flip
Shello - I was on the fence about them in day 1, but I liked their reaction to the guilty, and the more I think about their claimed role the more convinced I am that it is quite literally a perfectly designed town role for the set up (shout out to Ceph).
Tentative town:
Cat Scratch Fever
morph the cat (fferyllt & Cabd)
Save The Dragons
Even more tentitive town:
Oblivion - I felt pretty strongly about this read day 1, but they have been gone for so long, and I lack object permanence, so this read is flatlining
Dannflor - I distinctly remember thinking that Dann looked townie, but I quite literally cannot recall why.
Dunn - I leaned town on him for his read progression on me day 2, and especially liked that he actually went and looked at our prior game when I mentioned that he had been wrong before, but I having a lack of alignment thoughts on him today
Meh:
Firebringer
Firebagel
PenguinPower
Meh, Meh:
Sunflower
Would kill:
Gypyx
experience
For what it is worth, it apologizes for being gone. It maybe doesn't have time for this, but it really wants to? It is having a hard time engaging with this game past its frustration of everything being over its head between personal relationships, players communicating with hidden winks and nudges, neighbourhoods it isn't in it's.... a lot.
Add onto that that it has dental surgery this upcoming week to finish what happened to it a few weeks ago (broken tooth) and so it has really not been in the right place.
It could use some help re-inserting itself into the game, it feels, because right now it is... Daunted, is the correct word it feels.
I’m not Luke but you could look at experience’s most recent posts and it would be a good start. He’s kinda hot topic and shouldn’t be too hard to read.
In post 4976, Oblivion wrote:
It doesn't know what that help looks like, be it players chatting with it and asking it questions or attempting to do mental models on players with 200 pages of content to... sift through....
It.... yeah. Just yeah.
don't feel forced to read everything, like, 200 pages is a lot for anyone
Confirmed town unless you and... was it Bingle? are gambiting for some reason which it thinks would be a little TOO much to do at this point. But it doesn't like to speak in absolutes on things like confirmed town unless it's certain... or did something else reconfirm you past the mason claim?
This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.
But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:
In post 4976, Oblivion wrote:
It doesn't know what that help looks like, be it players chatting with it and asking it questions or attempting to do mental models on players with 200 pages of content to... sift through....
It.... yeah. Just yeah.
don't feel forced to read everything, like, 200 pages is a lot for anyone
In post 4976, Oblivion wrote:
It doesn't know what that help looks like, be it players chatting with it and asking it questions or attempting to do mental models on players with 200 pages of content to... sift through....
It.... yeah. Just yeah.
don't feel forced to read everything, like, 200 pages is a lot for anyone
you want me to summarize everything?
It would enjoy seeing you summarize things, if only because it'll help it with your alignment too?
This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.
But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:
Town:
Marci -
Spiffeh - was leaning town, strengthened by the brian flip
Shello - I was on the fence about them in day 1, but I liked their reaction to the guilty, and the more I think about their claimed role the more convinced I am that it is quite literally a perfectly designed town role for the set up (shout out to Ceph).
Tentative town:
Cat Scratch Fever
morph the cat (fferyllt & Cabd)
Save The Dragons
Even more tentitive town:
Oblivion - I felt pretty strongly about this read day 1, but they have been gone for so long, and I lack object permanence, so this read is flatlining
Dannflor - I distinctly remember thinking that Dann looked townie, but I quite literally cannot recall why.
Dunn - I leaned town on him for his read progression on me day 2, and especially liked that he actually went and looked at our prior game when I mentioned that he had been wrong before, but I having a lack of alignment thoughts on him today
Meh:
Firebringer
Firebagel
PenguinPower
Meh, Meh:
Sunflower
Would kill:
Gypyx
experience
For what it is worth, it apologizes for being gone. It maybe doesn't have time for this, but it really wants to? It is having a hard time engaging with this game past its frustration of everything being over its head between personal relationships, players communicating with hidden winks and nudges, neighbourhoods it isn't in it's.... a lot.
Add onto that that it has dental surgery this upcoming week to finish what happened to it a few weeks ago (broken tooth) and so it has really not been in the right place.
It could use some help re-inserting itself into the game, it feels, because right now it is... Daunted, is the correct word it feels.
I’m not Luke but you could look at experience’s most recent posts and it would be a good start. He’s kinda hot topic and shouldn’t be too hard to read.
-HM
Would reading Experience's ISO give it enough context to understand the issues there?
This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.
But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:
Confirmed town unless you and... was it Bingle? are gambiting for some reason which it thinks would be a little TOO much to do at this point. But it doesn't like to speak in absolutes on things like confirmed town unless it's certain... or did something else reconfirm you past the mason claim?
You don’t have *absolute* confirmation, but if you reread both of our ISOs with respect to each other (even a Ctrl f will suffice) you can see the trend.
Confirmed town unless you and... was it Bingle? are gambiting for some reason which it thinks would be a little TOO much to do at this point. But it doesn't like to speak in absolutes on things like confirmed town unless it's certain... or did something else reconfirm you past the mason claim?
They are not confirmed beyond claim, but I seriously, seriously doubt they would fake claim masons together.
My recommendation (and personal plan) is to treat both as if they were confirmed town, unless they both manage to be alive at like, the day before elo. And even then would still seriously doubt it, but would be contractually obligated to at least give it a double look at that point.
What part of this is out of line, exactly? It isn't going to not trust them with the amount of space we have, we killed scum day 1. We have time. That said, it isn't going to just auto lock players that aren't double confirmed or flipped or what have you.
We went through this in the other game, Gypyx. Acting overly locked creates paranoia. Take your "almost always town" pass and wear it instead of pushing for "always town must be listened to 100% of the time" because THAT is what generates paranoia and shade.
This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.
But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:
Town:
Marci -
Spiffeh - was leaning town, strengthened by the brian flip
Shello - I was on the fence about them in day 1, but I liked their reaction to the guilty, and the more I think about their claimed role the more convinced I am that it is quite literally a perfectly designed town role for the set up (shout out to Ceph).
Tentative town:
Cat Scratch Fever
morph the cat (fferyllt & Cabd)
Save The Dragons
Even more tentitive town:
Oblivion - I felt pretty strongly about this read day 1, but they have been gone for so long, and I lack object permanence, so this read is flatlining
Dannflor - I distinctly remember thinking that Dann looked townie, but I quite literally cannot recall why.
Dunn - I leaned town on him for his read progression on me day 2, and especially liked that he actually went and looked at our prior game when I mentioned that he had been wrong before, but I having a lack of alignment thoughts on him today
Meh:
Firebringer
Firebagel
PenguinPower
Meh, Meh:
Sunflower
Would kill:
Gypyx
experience
For what it is worth, it apologizes for being gone. It maybe doesn't have time for this, but it really wants to? It is having a hard time engaging with this game past its frustration of everything being over its head between personal relationships, players communicating with hidden winks and nudges, neighbourhoods it isn't in it's.... a lot.
Add onto that that it has dental surgery this upcoming week to finish what happened to it a few weeks ago (broken tooth) and so it has really not been in the right place.
It could use some help re-inserting itself into the game, it feels, because right now it is... Daunted, is the correct word it feels.
I’m not Luke but you could look at experience’s most recent posts and it would be a good start. He’s kinda hot topic and shouldn’t be too hard to read.
-HM
Would reading Experience's ISO give it enough context to understand the issues there?
I believe it would give enough context, possibly with a couple drops out of iso mode to see reactions, etc.
Confirmed town unless you and... was it Bingle? are gambiting for some reason which it thinks would be a little TOO much to do at this point. But it doesn't like to speak in absolutes on things like confirmed town unless it's certain... or did something else reconfirm you past the mason claim?
They are not confirmed beyond claim, but I seriously, seriously doubt they would fake claim masons together.
My recommendation (and personal plan) is to treat both as if they were confirmed town,
unless they both manage to be alive at like, the day before elo
. And even then would still seriously doubt it, but would be contractually obligated to at least give it a double look at that point.
This is about how it feels. Perhaps the day before the day before elo? But we killed scum day 1, we don't have to worry. If this is a gambit to run town into the ground for a while we will eventually return two scum for it on later days, and neither of these two are in the dethy so we would be in a good spot.
This gambit would only be made if those 2 were confident in the status of their final scum partner, but that's enough about that.
This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.
But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:
Town:
Marci -
Spiffeh - was leaning town, strengthened by the brian flip
Shello - I was on the fence about them in day 1, but I liked their reaction to the guilty, and the more I think about their claimed role the more convinced I am that it is quite literally a perfectly designed town role for the set up (shout out to Ceph).
Tentative town:
Cat Scratch Fever
morph the cat (fferyllt & Cabd)
Save The Dragons
Even more tentitive town:
Oblivion - I felt pretty strongly about this read day 1, but they have been gone for so long, and I lack object permanence, so this read is flatlining
Dannflor - I distinctly remember thinking that Dann looked townie, but I quite literally cannot recall why.
Dunn - I leaned town on him for his read progression on me day 2, and especially liked that he actually went and looked at our prior game when I mentioned that he had been wrong before, but I having a lack of alignment thoughts on him today
Meh:
Firebringer
Firebagel
PenguinPower
Meh, Meh:
Sunflower
Would kill:
Gypyx
experience
For what it is worth, it apologizes for being gone. It maybe doesn't have time for this, but it really wants to? It is having a hard time engaging with this game past its frustration of everything being over its head between personal relationships, players communicating with hidden winks and nudges, neighbourhoods it isn't in it's.... a lot.
Add onto that that it has dental surgery this upcoming week to finish what happened to it a few weeks ago (broken tooth) and so it has really not been in the right place.
It could use some help re-inserting itself into the game, it feels, because right now it is... Daunted, is the correct word it feels.
I’m not Luke but you could look at experience’s most recent posts and it would be a good start. He’s kinda hot topic and shouldn’t be too hard to read.
-HM
Would reading Experience's ISO give it enough context to understand the issues there?
I believe it would give enough context, possibly with a couple drops out of iso mode to see reactions, etc.
Okay, that is what it will spend its energy on today, plus if players have questions for it it will attempt to answer, though... energy levels aren't at 100 still.
This is the law, written in the stars and seeds: in the end, all things must fail. They are old as the stars.
But not older.
And you, who have your human heart again, know all their secrets still.
This is the truth you will use to break them, to rend chains apart and set their prisoners free:
In post 4989, Hermit Crab wrote:
I feel like I saw a question from you two when I was skimming, I’m going to have more time for this game tomorrow and am on phone
I wanted to know where your reads are at currently, but it can wait until you've had time to reread/rethink.
In post 4976, Oblivion wrote:
It doesn't know what that help looks like, be it players chatting with it and asking it questions or attempting to do mental models on players with 200 pages of content to... sift through....
It.... yeah. Just yeah.
don't feel forced to read everything, like, 200 pages is a lot for anyone
you want me to summarize everything?
It would enjoy seeing you summarize things, if only because it'll help it with your alignment too?
Just realized i shouldn't have offered that given how little i've read lol
basically morph started the day by claiming a hard guilty on shello, shello claimed a role that fit as being clear according to that guilty (vig and oddskeeper, not sure what it does but you can check back i guess)
big blank where i got too busy
Stuff in the dethy hood got quite confused, and most people who got the cop shots can't actually use them
the big pushes are experience and me, both for different flavors of inactivity, experience kinda acted extremely clueless about stuff while my activity this game so far is quite different from my recent town meta
Town:
Marci -
Spiffeh - was leaning town, strengthened by the brian flip
Shello - I was on the fence about them in day 1, but I liked their reaction to the guilty, and the more I think about their claimed role the more convinced I am that it is quite literally a perfectly designed town role for the set up (shout out to Ceph).
Tentative town:
Cat Scratch Fever
morph the cat (fferyllt & Cabd)
Save The Dragons
Even more tentitive town:
Oblivion - I felt pretty strongly about this read day 1, but they have been gone for so long, and I lack object permanence, so this read is flatlining
Dannflor - I distinctly remember thinking that Dann looked townie, but I quite literally cannot recall why.
Dunn - I leaned town on him for his read progression on me day 2, and especially liked that he actually went and looked at our prior game when I mentioned that he had been wrong before, but I having a lack of alignment thoughts on him today
Meh:
Firebringer
Firebagel
PenguinPower
Meh, Meh:
Sunflower
Would kill:
Gypyx
experience
Okay, thank you.
Gut impression says this is not a readslist expressing a scum agenda which is what I was checking for here. The fact that all the pressure is on the dethy might make this less reliable but I think committed stances on the players outside of it are more valuable than stances inside of it because there's more wiggle room in the larger bunch where scum have to be more strategic about their reads.
