Open 318: By Nomination Only (Game Over)

[Hoopla]

UNVOTE: VOTE: Nobody Special

[Hoopla]

Hoopla, do you agree with Rory's assessment of me?

That you're a newbie? Not really.

[Amrun]

Optimal play is typically doing the opposite of what GreyICE says.

Missed this post before. Lol.

NS, why do you suspect Copper? Simply because he won't reveal his heads? If so, do you also suspect Rory?

Rory, has this hydra played other games?

P-edit: That I am a newbie and very stupid, specifically.

[Rory the Roman]

Optimal play is typically doing the opposite of what GreyICE says.

Missed this post before. Lol.

NS, why do you suspect Copper? Simply because he won't reveal his heads? If so, do you also suspect Rory?

Rory, has this hydra played other games?

P-edit: That I am a newbie and very stupid, specifically.

Yeah, of course we have, seeing how 13 day long games are so common on MS.

[Amrun]

Oh, true. My b. Still waiting on NS, then.

[Papa Zito]

Something has "shaken out."

Mysterious!

^Scum, with or without Zito.

Haven't yet seen a reason to move.

aroo?

[Amrun]

The unvote was supposed to make it obvious.

[forest_air]

VOTE: muffin
same reason as my previous forest vote

What was the reason for your forest vote? "welcome back"?

forest: any comments on the game?

I recently got killed in a newbie game that both Muffin and TS are alive in right now. NS is the mod, just kind of funny how so many of us are in this game.

[VitaminR]

Vote: twistedspoon

for being talked into an Amrun vote in a strange way.

PZ came off as town in that gambit to me. I had the same feeling about Amrun's reaction.

[Nobody Special]

I recently got killed in a newbie game that both Muffin and TS are alive in right now. NS is the mod, just kind of funny how so many of us are in this game.

STOP STALKING MEEEEEEEE

Oh, true. My b. Still waiting on NS, then.

What are you waiting for?

[Amrun]

For answers to the questions I asked you...

[Copper]

@Copper. I think you are the one supposing, while we are the one trying to find reads. Don't try to "suppose" what our reads should be.

What are you saying here? That when you accuse someone of fake scumhunting, it's bad to assume you're calling them scum? If not Zito, then who? Your vote doesn't do anything in your pocket, and you seem awfully sensitive about being asked to take a stand.

Amrun: do you think you will be on the nomination list tomorrow?

Of course. If she lives through today, she'll put herself on the list for the WIFOM value, if nothing else.

Now this is interesting...so you've taken an action that, you believe, will ENSURE Amrun is on the nomination list for tomorrow. Why?

[Nobody Special]

NS, why do you suspect Copper? Simply because he won't reveal his heads? If so, do you also suspect Rory?

Oh, missed this.

I have experience with Copper. No experience with Rory. Not the best of reasons, but there it is.

[Nobody Special]

Amrun: do you think you will be on the nomination list tomorrow?

Of course. If she lives through today, she'll put herself on the list for the WIFOM value, if nothing else.

Now this is interesting...so you've taken an action that, you believe, will ENSURE Amrun is on the nomination list for tomorrow. Why?

Because I suspect her somewhat, and what better way to get rid of her if she lives through today?

I'm VT, by the way, if anyone's wondering.

[Amrun]

NS, why do you suspect Copper? Simply because he won't reveal his heads? If so, do you also suspect Rory?

Oh, missed this.

I have experience with Copper. No experience with Rory. Not the best of reasons, but there it is.

What about your experience with Copper leads you to suspect him here?

[Nobody Special]

That they play

very well

and are transparent as any alignment.

[Nobody Special]

NOT TRANSPARENT.

Unreadable.

Must stop posting while doing other things.

[Papa Zito]

UNVOTE: Amrun
VOTE: Nobody Special

Somehow I missed Rory's response.

Maybe. Either you are a cheap joker who kicks the game alive at the expence of a newby, or you are a fairly obvious scum who fakes his cases by hiding it in complicated words. The conclusion is that regardless of your allignment, your current vote can't be taken seriously.

Way to fence sit.

How do you intend to determine whether I am A or B?

[Amrun]

So Copper is essentially a policy lynch for unreadability, but you actually suspect me.

Okay.

VOTE: Nobody Special

[Rory the Roman]

@Copper. I think you are the one supposing, while we are the one trying to find reads. Don't try to "suppose" what our reads should be.

What are you saying here? That when you accuse someone of fake scumhunting, it's bad to assume you're calling them scum? If not Zito, then who? Your vote doesn't do anything in your pocket, and you seem awfully sensitive about being asked to take a stand.

I already answered this, but apparently you can't read. Yes, that is a very bad assumption. Just check my answer to PZ for that. And no, you don't own my vote and if you want PZ to be voted you'll have to do it yourself, because I won't until I actually see a reason to do so. If you want to know what my thoughts are about the game, follow Zito's example and ask what you can't understand. Don't try to be smarter then me and think for me because you aren't that smart.

@Zito. I'll wait. The easier example is that you are town throwing a gambit to get the game going. I think I would have voted you if I thought you were scum, don't you think?

As for the NS wagon, it's a little early. Can we do this around page ten so we actually know everyone is serious about it?

[Amrun]

Answer my question, rory.

[Papa Zito]

I think I would have voted you if I thought you were scum, don't you think?

You've yet to vote anyone so I have no idea.

Can I interpret this remark to mean you don't see anyone worth voting yet?


P.S. My NS vote is serious.

[Hoopla]

P.S. My NS vote is serious.

I think they all are.

[VitaminR]

^Scum, with or without Zito.

NS, I want to know why you had this reaction to Hoopla.

[Nobody Special]

Maybe. Either you are a cheap joker who kicks the game alive at the expence of a newby

I think you're overestimating the depth of Zito's initial motivation to claim VT. I don't think it was intended to be a newbie trap - you can (maybe) logically extrapolate that the end result might only catch newbies, but I don't think Zito would have consciously known that before posting. My take was that it was pretty obviously a joke, with no intention to catch anyone.

This post drips with scumdroplets because A) it uses big words to make it seem as though she's saying something and B) it's mind-reading.

It's just NOT a pro-town thing to do, interpreting others' reactions for your own benefit. It'd better if she had

asked

Zito about his supposed "gambit."