The Children of Húrin Mafia (GREAT REVIVAL)

[Furcolow]

whoever is turin, not me you guys, watch out for glaurung and beleg, you might have to kill them

[Furcolow]

Magister Ludi, I will answer that.

It depends on WHAT 3rd party. If it is a 3rd party that is similar to a benedict arnold, or turncoat, that can be recruited by scum, it definitely hurts scum

If it is cult? Null

If it is killer? Town

So... It depends

[Wraith]

Fuckin GAH I hope this game won't go as fast as BoS.

[Gut]

To what extent must the events of the game match the book, gandalf? Order of deaths? Outcome? Get as specific as you can be.

P.S. Faraday, remember moderating at Goofbash? This is your chance to redeem yourself.

[Empking]

BoS

?

[kanyeknowsbest]

ludi it depends on the nature of the third party. im guessing from what gandalf has told us so far hes some sort of lyncher/reverse lyncher who needs certain people dead/not dead. in that case it depends on whether or not his dead/alive targets are scum/town. theres no way for us to know this so i would err on the side of caution and say it is pro town to lynch.

there is also the situation where he is directly anti town third party who is trying to claim some middle ground third party in the hopes of getting an easy ride out of it.

[gandalf5166]

That doesn't make much sense, Gandalf, considering Plum would have to balance the game, and include a Gandalf, and If you didn't play, or replaced out, all the work could have been for nothing.

I didn't say she created the role to fuck with me. I'm saying she gave me the role to fuck with me.

Gandalf: What abilities do you have?

I don't want to reveal that. I am a JoaT of sorts. Mostly utility kind of stuff as opposed to like cops or vigs and such. I get the feeling each ability is supposed to have a specific use.


@Gut: I get the feeling that it's the net outcome that matters, as order of deaths would 1. be nearly impossible and 2. wouldn't really affect the integrity of the timeline. I sent a PM to Plum a couple of minutes ago.

[gandalf5166]

She said no comment.

[Will-o-wisp]

hey yal

vote mastermind of sin

nice random vote m8.

Have you not yet realized that he does that literally every single game?

Gandalf,

are you actually Gandalf in this game?

If you want to clarify, it's now.

My role PM says I'm gandalf. So I would assume so.

And yes, kanye, my wincon is not the same as town. I'm honestly not even sure if it conflicts with town though. once again, some flavor help would REALLY be appreciated.

I highly doubt that you would not be told or given a power that would aid you in completing your win condition. There has to be something that you aren't telling us.

At least your role confirms a mechanic of this game.

Vote: Gut

Purely a gut vote.

Why not an actual random vote?

Vote: Gandalf

Either scum, third party or anti-town.

Pretty obvious don't you think? I doubt that scum or anti-town would claim a role that is not directly town sided so early in the game. Besides, 3rd party players should be allowed to fulfill their wincondition so that they can leave the game without screwing up other aspects of scumhunting.

yeah im into a gandalf lynch unless he can in some way explain how his win condition is pro town. theres no reason to leave claimed third party alive.

holding off on the vote until he explains it better at least.

Ya. You go, Kanye.

You are playing horrible at this point.

Get yer votes off me I'm a magical princess.

PUT THEM WHERE THEY BELONG

Unvote, Vote: Gandalf

*sigh* Any reason other than his third party claim? Are you guys even looking into the possible scenarios for the claim? You seem to be sheeping Emp and Kanye.

yeah im into a gandalf lynch unless he can in some way explain how his win condition is pro town. theres no reason to leave claimed third party alive.

Once again, I don't know. Heck, maybe at the end of the book all of the bad guys die and Hurin and his children live happily ever after except for like one or two that I have to make sure die. Once again, I'm looking for the same info you are.

If your speculation is at least partially true I suspect one of Emp or Spyrex to be a part of that wincondition.

Gandalf, in that game you flipped

6. gandalf5166, Gwaihir the Eagle, Town Jailkeeper, Shot from Afar Night 1!

After getting vigged night one. What are you doing?

Yeah, in that one I was trying to breadcrumb.

I really don't know what I'm doing now. I could really use some help.

@Plum:

Were any of the roles in this game(aside from the seraphs) handpicked?

What does your win condition say, Gandalf.

It says I have to survive and make sure the timestream remains intact for my safe return. I'm paraphrasing, but the phrasing in my PM isn't any clearer.

You could at least help us help you. And it is fairly obvious that not all of the roles in this game were "randomly" chosen. You sound like an "Atlas" role that may be necessary to live in order to prevent other abilities or mechanics from coming into play.

Major FoS: Kanye

I have not yet had the chance to discuss the game with my other head, but I intensely dislike Kanye's play so far. Once we have had time to talk you can expect a vote.

pedit:

I never understood that. Why?

Because you are guranteed to NOT hit a town player. Why take the chance of hitting scum with a vig shot when you have a safe option?

Magister Ludi, I will answer that.

It depends on WHAT 3rd party. If it is a 3rd party that is similar to a benedict arnold, or turncoat, that can be recruited by scum, it definitely hurts scum

If it is cult? Null

If it is killer? Town

So... It depends

If Gandalf is a turncoat that can be recruited by scum, aren't they essentially a traitor and indirectly aligned with scum?

Cult would not claim something like this as all suspicion is now on him.

Killer? Maybe? If he was a jester?

I am liking Ludi's play this game. Feeling that he is town.

Kanye, what if Gandalf's wincon does actually affect town? What if a crumbled timestream prevents certain people from using abilities or brings back dead players?

pedit#69: this game is moving. way. too. fast. holy crap.
- Oversoul

[kanyeknowsbest]

lol oversoul.

[Furcolow]

Gandalf, are you here? I want to ask you something that I want a quick answer to.

will-o-the-wisp don't you strawman me again
i am NOT saying he is ANY of those roles

[gandalf5166]

I am here for the next five minutes.

[Will-o-wisp]

lol oversoul.

No one likes me.

Gandalf, are you here? I want to ask you something that I want a quick answer to.

will-o-the-wisp don't you strawman me again
i am NOT saying he is ANY of those roles

What the hell? This is a hydra and I don't think I have ever played with you.

Gandalf, would you be able to tell what exactly the timeline is if you knew other names?

- Oversoul

[Furcolow]

Gandalf, what is the name in your role PM?

[Furcolow]

yet again another misrepresentation/misunderstanding
do it a third time and im not going to reply to you whatsoever, or move my vote off of you
you now know what i meant, and if you don't, you would be of a mind to not reply to this whatsoever UNTIL YOU DO.

[Empking]

Lynch, lynch the Gandalf.

[Furcolow]

I'm waiting for a "but your vote isn't on me", and I will tell you you need to fucking go find the wizard of oz

[gandalf5166]

Gandalf, what is the name in your role PM?

Gandalf.

[gandalf5166]

Gandalf, would you be able to tell what exactly the timeline is if you knew other names?

- Oversoul

What? I don't get what you're asking.

[Furcolow]

There is NO WAY your role PM name is GANDALF. He DID NOT get that name at the time of this story.

vote: Gandalf

you are lying, your character, if Gandalf, would be called OLORIN. THAT IS HIS NAME AT THE TIME OF THIS STORY.

[Andrius]

Ok wow gandalf's claim is balls-to-the-wall.
Somehow, even though I KNOW this game is bastard, that seems to be a bit too STRETCHED. I think it'd be predictable for BastarD_Plum to give gandalf Gandalf, but mehhhh he wasn't in Silmarillion so ehhh.

HEY LORDCHRONOS. ITS BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE PLAYED TOGETHER.

I won't bother defending myself from these preposterous accusations by Locke since after all, I AM GANDALF
My rolename is(get this) Gandalf. I'm so awesomely awesome, no one could possibly believe I'm scum. So at any point, I may declare this in the thread in bold. And I will be like a treestump the rest of the game, only I keep my vote and become a JOAT. Only it's a KH mafia style JOAT, where I can literally do ANYTHING, and it's unlimited-shot. Unfortunately, I can only do three actions each night.

I think my claim is vital to my victory at this point. I'm Gandalf. I know-- Gandalf isn't in the Children of Hurin story. Apparently, I got stuck in a time warp after I fought the Balrog and before I was resurrected. So my mission is to survive and ensure the integrity of the timestream. Basically, I have to make sure the events in this game parallel those in the book. The problem is that I have no flavor knowledge whatsoever. Anyway, anyone wanna help me out?

X

Except, Ludi, gandalf was using that bollocks claim in LOTR to crumb his

actual

role.

ALMASTERGM.
YOU OWE DAWG.
YOU OWE ME BIG.

FUCK YOU FURCOLOW ITS MAEDHROS. MY FAVORITE NOLDOR.

Furcolow's summary is not town. Posting flavor for others is a way of faking content. Sadly, Furco's always a

smurf[/url] so this is going to get interesting.

so Turin Turambar is probably our hero.

Eh, he did a bunch of bad things too.
Banged his sister (unknowingly) killed that one dude at the end of the books KILLED BELEG on accident (<333), pretty much screwed over Nargothrond et.al.

so why are you asking us instead of pming plum for a clarification on your win con?

unvote vote gandalf

I get the feeling that if Plum was going to clarify she would have.

I think Plum gave me this role just to fuck with me.

BRO.
DONT EVEN START.
DONT EVEN WHINE.

whoever is turin, not me you guys, watch out for glaurung and beleg, you might have to kill them

FUCK YOU I LOVE BELEG.

Vote: Furcolow

Because your summary is fake content (Read: flavor we should all know), and you just rattling off flavor knowledge doesn't do us any good right now.

Also, I need help.
Bad.
Like, role-related.
I don't want to say too much for fear of saying too much, BUT YEAH.
:tears:

-???


p.s. I actually believe gandalf's claim. Sorry, but this is bastard and as long as it fits with the flavor (hint: I'm crumbing) then its good.

Please use more respectful/appropriate language towards other players in this game - Plum

[Andrius]

Furcolow I know it makes no flavor sense.
Which is why I want the following:
A) gandalf to stop bitching. I'd give him a bastard role of GANDALF because his name is GANDALF too.
B) You to stop spouting off flavor knowledge.
C) ???

[Andrius]

EBWOP: Sorry, that was supposed to be "gandalf to stop complaining [about his role]"

[Furcolow]

wow will for scum because of "Gandalf, would you be able to tell what exactly the timeline is if you knew other names?" dat rolefish/namefish

Gandalf ASKED FOR FLAVOR KNOWLEDGE. I didn't do it randomly.

[Empking]

Gandalf: Claim powers and I might unvote.