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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 7:45 am

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Great game, everyone. :D I never really had the motivation to play this thing properly, but it was a lot of fun. Congrats to Drench; from what I can tell, he played a really great game. And xof, you were so freaking close, and you also would have made a very deserving winner. :)
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 8:21 am

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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 8:46 am

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Great game everyone love you all, hmu if you want to chat but I'm so proud of how this game turned out <333

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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 10:37 am

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In post 50, Crazy wrote:And xof, you were so freaking close, and you also would have made a very deserving winner.

D'aww you <33 thanks man.

Also, holy fuck, another personal goal achieved. I beat my own previous highest ELO. This gaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 11:50 am

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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 11:50 am

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jk, you played me like a fiddle, :P
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 11:53 am

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Ahahahahaha. Can you really hate me though? I mean look at this face. ^_^

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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 3:14 pm

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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 3:20 pm

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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 3:59 pm

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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 7:56 pm

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I still don't get how this game is anything but a popularity contest. Or how obvious scum like Simba got to MYLO.. There's a lot of the game that spectating just doesn't get to see.
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2015 9:21 pm

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In post 60, TheBreeze wrote:Burn it with fire!

How Dose AnyBody Get Justice.
Shadoweh wrote:I still don't get how this game is anything but a popularity contest. Or how obvious scum like Simba got to MYLO.. There's a lot of the game that spectating just doesn't get to see.

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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 12:32 am

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In post 62, Shadoweh wrote:I still don't get how this game is anything but a popularity contest. Or how obvious scum like Simba got to MYLO.. There's a lot of the game that spectating just doesn't get to see.

Well, Survivor is basically a popular contest, in a way that Mafia never could be. At least... in the early stages players almost always start by voting out the least social players. It's all anonymous, so that helps, but it's still a shame how most of the newbies were slaughtered immediately in this game.
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:13 am

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In post 62, Shadoweh wrote:I still don't get how this game is anything but a popularity contest. Or how obvious scum like Simba got to MYLO.. There's a lot of the game that spectating just doesn't get to see.

I mean, it's Survivor... popularity and social manipulation is literally the point of the game.

TBH, I think this game in particular was really hard to see from a spectator perspective because the confessionals were lacking content.

I think my "obvious power" was exaggerated quite a bit by people in order to make it harder for me to win the game. Frenchie basically built that lie and people bought into it... the only people I thought I had control over were Doge & Star, and they both were working against me from basically the start of the merge. My only "power" at merge came from being persuasive and likable enough to the other players to make backstabbing me a harder thing to do, which is the only reason I came in 4th and not 8th.

To be honest, this game was super bizarre in that merge had a bit of "dead weight". I don't mean that they were bad players, but that there were several low-activity, low-impact players at merge, while a ton of high impact, big players were eliminated pre-merge (and I usually don't see that happen). I mean, god, every Nerds TC was a complete clusterfuck where the momentum shifted several times, and that NEVER happens. Val was a favorite to win the game and got completely blindsided WITH AN IDOL IN HER POSSESSION, which is just absolutely nuts. I think this game had a lot more turmoil than most games. There was no "dominant group" or anything. Almost every person was working both for and against the same people.

Drench played a masterful game, really, by being a huge social threat. He strategically used the right people to get information then turned when it was no longer valuable, and nobody caught on until it was too late.

xofelf also did a fantastic job with her UTR game, and I originally was voting Dave over Star. It was that close. In retrospect, I can appreciate how nonthreatening xofelf made Dave appear and how it was all an act to get as far as possible. Dave almost won the damn game, simply because xofelf had everyone convinced that Dave was the easiest person to beat in FTC, when in actuality, that strategy in and of itself was great.

Mist, I feel, made a huge mistake not taking out Drench in F4... and that was honestly the only shot at Star not winning. I don't think I would've been able to justify my post-merge play as anything other than reacting to shit and trying to survive. I made no "big plays". Star was a big threat, especially with how he was playing everyone, and the fact Doge didn't see the Dave/Star duo thing until it was too late was unfortunate. Had Doge gone to F3 with me/Dave, there's no situation in which he doesn't make FTC... and beating me or Dave is no harder than beating Star, PLUS Star was a proven challenge master.

TBH, looking at the jury now, there's no way I could've made it to FTC, I don't think. Had I stuck with Frenchie, maybe, but that would be a long shot, and no way would I win in FTC against Frenchie.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:19 am

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I still maintain than prioritizing PM post count when looking for a first boot disgusts me, but its clearly programmed into the meta/hive mind.
I guess knowing that I might be able to enjoy a future survivor game, but this one was a completely awful experience for me.
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:26 am

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The problem is that when people don't prioritize PM count for early boots, Goofy. By that I mean the people with low counts end up caring less and end up being completely inactive for the rest of the game, which makes people who are taking these incredibly seriously angry.
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:29 am

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I see; I guess that makes sense --- I had no plans of being 'inactive' for the rest of the game, but I can see how you wouldnt be able to tell the difference and how the meta evolved that way.

I was booted over somebody who hadn't posted in a week and self-evicted before the next week for inactivity. It clearly can't be because I wasn't going to participate enough. I was there, I just wasn't posting paragraphs of meaningless content.
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:46 am

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By the way, though Goofy was in a Big Brother and not a Survivor, either way his whole game was pretty much posting "hi ^^" on day one and practically nothing else. He got to F2, and if I remember correctly got 2 out of 7 jury votes out of spite. So yeah early activity checks can be bad, especially for newer players, but there is definitely a reason for them.
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 5:51 am

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Here in example of a PM thread paraphrased.

them: basic intro
me: basic intro
Me: game stuff
them: Too early for game talk
me: ok, comments on challenge.
them: why arent you talking more.
me: ok, try to talk game
them: too early for game talk
me: ok, comment on challenge
them: you're not talking enough
me: ok, I'll talk more.
me: game?
them: too early.
me: We finally lost a challenge.... game stuff.
them: its too late to talk game - I warned you.


Not all of them are the same, as I didn't want to work with everyone, but there are common threads.
Some of them didn't talk to me except to say I wasn't talking enough (even though I talked to them more than they talked to me).

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t really did feel like, ok lets eliminate the new guys and get to the real game. As the new guys didn't know about this early game ritual where you talk about nonsense to prove you're invested in the game.
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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 7:06 am

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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 8:41 am

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In post 69, KingdomAces wrote:By the way, though Goofy was in a Big Brother and not a Survivor, either way his whole game was pretty much posting "hi ^^" on day one and practically nothing else. He got to F2, and if I remember correctly got 2 out of 7 jury votes out of spite. So yeah early activity checks can be bad, especially for newer players, but there is definitely a reason for them.

He received 3 of the 7 votes. There was a point where it looked like he was winning.
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 9:18 am

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In post 70, Narninian wrote:It really did feel like, ok lets eliminate the new guys and get to the real game. As the new guys didn't know about this early game ritual where you talk about nonsense to prove you're invested in the game.

Uh I had no idea any of you were newbies and it wasn't like that at all? Shit, I even tried to help Heisenberg by telling him he was sort of alienating people with his distant posting style.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Mon May 04, 2015 9:19 am

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I decided you would be an easy person to boot because you weren't gelling with people. Shit, I even tried to help you man... but I'm not going to be particularly lovely towards someone who, when I send him a nice greeting and try to form a common bond over Breaking Bad, responds with like a one-word answer.
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