Weird Dreams Mafia Review PT

[Korina]

Mentor is effectively a cultfia as well, so limiting them to only having a kill when they're at max capacity helps prevent them from steamrolling.

[RH9]

Does the setup look balanced, and/or does it look balanced enough to be posted in the thread?

And also, RH, are you willing to be co-mod?

I think that it is somewhat swingy but given that it's role madness, that's to be expected. It would also depend on how well the roles are played.

As for co-modding, it depends as I'm somewhat busy rn due to school.

[Korina]

But both of you are good signing off on this setup?

Also for co-mod I don’t realistically need anything, just a body to fill the slot. I should be ok doing stuff.

[furtiveglance]

I don't want to sign off on it yet until I've read all of the information, but the mechanics look ok

[Korina]

What information do you need still? Just role pms?

[furtiveglance]

Just reading stuff you've already posted

[furtiveglance]

My one concern is that players might be frustrated by the Falsely Prophetic Fridge mod announcements being false

[Korina]

That's a fair concern. What do you think should be done about it? Because I'm planning on disclaiming in the signup thread that there will be moderation lies outside of your alignment, and abilities, so I feel like knowing that I will lie at some point makes it less frustrating?

[furtiveglance]

Yeah I get that. I just worry people may conflate the IC with the Fridge messages and not question it. But if you do it in the right way it could work

[Korina]

IC is “X is Beacon, a Town-Aligned Innocent Child” and Fridge is “I had a dream where I saw X is (result)”. - The two are different messages and I’m more worried people will think the IC is scum LMAO

[furtiveglance]

exactly. And the more precise you are in pregame messages about it, the more obvious it is that the Fridge messages are a lie

[Korina]

I'm gonna say that there is capability for moderation lies outside of role, alignment, and abilities so people have to speculate about it.

[RH9]

IC is “X is Beacon, a Town-Aligned Innocent Child” and Fridge is “I had a dream where I saw X is (result)”. - The two are different messages and I’m more worried people will think the IC is scum LMAO

I agree with this.
I feel like in a Bastard game, especially one where mod lies are known to have a chance to exist, it'll be more likely than not for mod announcements to be lies.
(At least, when I see a game advertised as Bastard with mod lies, my first assumption would be to not trust the mod completely.)

[RH9]

But both of you are good signing off on this setup?

Also for co-mod I don’t realistically need anything, just a body to fill the slot. I should be ok doing stuff.

I would like to check Role PMs first before signing off.
If I don't need to do much as co-mod, maybe I'll be OK with being it.

[Korina]

I’m working on role PMs now

[Korina]

Role pms are taking me longer bc it's a pain to make them. I expect to have them done by Thursday.

[furtiveglance]

I get that

[Korina]

Spoiler: LSD

Liminal Space Designer

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, LiminalSpaceDesigner! You are a

Liminal Space Designer (Bulletproof Neighborizer and 2-Shot Mentor)

, and aligned with

The Liminal Space.

I had a dream once that someone was able to design a room between reality. They asked me to join them, and told me one way or another I'd join them. Everyone would join them, or else they'd perish. I still think about that man hidden between the folds of reality. I wonder if he's still waiting for me to give him my answer.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

Bulletproof

: If you are attacked at night, you will automatically survive the attempt.
~

Neighborizer

: Each night, you may target another player and attempt to add them to

The Backrooms

, a neighborhood.
~

Mentor

: If you do not currently have a Mentee, twice per game, you may attempt to recruit someone to the Liminal Space faction. They will retain all current abilities. This ability will fail on groupscum with living partners. Attached below is a sample Mentee PM.

Your factional abilities are as follows:
~

Private Communication

: You have access to the Liminal Space PT, which is located here.
~

Conditional Kill

: If you have a living Mentee, you or your Mentee may preform the factional kill at night.

You win if

all players not aligned with you are dead; if all living players are in The Backrooms PT; or if either situation is impossible to prevent.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me OR by posting in your PT.

Spoiler: Sample Mentee

Sample Mentee

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome CoMod! You are now a

Liminal Space Mentee (One-Way Lover)

, and aligned with

The Liminal Space.

That person sitting between the rooms finally came back to me. He asked for my option, and held a gun to my head. I had to make the decision for myself, and I accepted his offer. When I woke up, I found myself in my room, but something felt different.

Your personal abilities remain the same as they once were, including the new ability:
~

Default

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

One Way Lover

: If Korina dies for any reason, you will automatically follow suit; however, Korina will not die if you die.

Your factional abilities are as follows:
~

Private Communication

: You have access to the Liminal Space PT, which is located here.
~

Scumbuddy Identity

: You know that Korina is a Liminal Space Designer (Bulletproof Neighborizor and 2-Shot Mentor).
~

Conditional Kill

: While you are alive, you have access to a factional kill, and you or Korina may preform it at night.

You win if

all players not aligned with you are dead; if all living players are in The Backrooms PT; or if either situation is impossible to prevent.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me OR by posting in your PT.

Spoiler: Evil Moderator

Evil Moderator

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, EvilModerator! You are an

Evil Moderator (Mafia JOAT)

, and aligned with

The Horrible Dreams.

I had a dream once that I was playing a game of mafia, and the moderator suddenly posted "I'm now playing the game. My role PM is X." and I went in the dream "isn't that a little evil to be doing? I know it's a bastard game, but that's really evil." I got modkilled immediately afterwards and woke up.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

JOAT

: You have access to several 1-Shot abilities, which are listed below.
~

1-Shot Hammerer

: Once per game, during the day you may PM the moderator with

Hammer: Player.

This player will automatically be hammered. This cannot be used in ELO.
~

1-Shot Strongman Ninja

: Once per game, you may become a Strongman Ninja. Any kills you preform will ignore immunity, and you will not be seen visiting your target.
~

1-Shot Loyal Doctor

: Once per game, you may target someone to protect them against one kill that night. This ability will fail against anyone not aligned with you.
~

1-Shot Announcing Bus Driver

: Once per game, you may target two players to switch all actions targeting them between them. They will be informed a Bus Driver targeted them, but not who targeted them.

Your factional abilities are as follows:
~

Private Communication

: You have access to The Horrible Dreams PT, which is located here.
~

Secret Identities

: You know that FalselyPropheticFridge, SuddenlyDemonicFriend, and AbandonedMall are also aligned with

The Horrible Dreams

~

Factional Kill

: The Horrible Dreams have access to a factional kill, which you may use every night in an attempt to kill another player in the game.

You win if

The Horrible Dreams

compromise half the town, and all threats to your faction are dead, or if this situation is impossible to prevent.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me OR by posting in your PT.

Spoiler: Falsely Prophetic Fridge

Falsely Prophetic Fridge

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, FalselyPropheticFridge! You are an

FalselyPropheticFridge (Mafia Compulsive Inverse Public Role Inquisitor)

, and aligned with

The Horrible Dreams.

I had a dream once that this fridge would talk in riddles, but none of its riddles made sense. It kept saying "I saw in a dream" something happened, and then it never happened. But the most disturbing part about it, was how it proved these things didn't happen.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

Compulsive

: Each night you are alive, you must take actions with all your personal abilities.
~

Inverse

: All your actions will return the opposite result of what they should.
~

Public

: All of personal abilities results will be publicly posted by the mod.
~

Role Inquisitor

: You may ask the mod a question about another player's role, excluding their alignment. The moderator will truthfully respond about this. For example, you may ask the mod if this player possesses a kill, or if this player may learn information about another player.

Your factional abilities are as follows:
~

Private Communication

: You have access to The Horrible Dreams PT, which is located here.
~

Secret Identities

: You know that EvilModerator, SuddenlyDemonicFriend, and AbandonedMall are also aligned with

The Horrible Dreams

~

Factional Kill

: The Horrible Dreams have access to a factional kill, which you may use every night in an attempt to kill another player in the game.

You win if

The Horrible Dreams

compromise half the town, and all threats to your faction are dead, or if this situation is impossible to prevent.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me OR by posting in your PT.

Spoiler: Suddenly Demonic Friend

Suddenly Demonic Friend

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, SuddenlyDemonicFriend! You are a

Suddenly Demonic Friend (Mafia 1-Shot Bulletproof Godfather Flavor Cop)

, and aligned with

The Horrible Dreams.

I had a dream that one of my friends just suddenly turned into a demon. I was mid-conversation with them, and then they turned into a demon and started critiquing all my stories for their lore, and how inconsistent they were. It was honestly kinda rude.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

1-Shot Bulletproof

: The first time you are attacked at night, you will automatically survive.
~

Godfather

: You will appear to be Innocent to Cops.
~

Flavor Cop

: Each night, you may target another player in the game to learn the flavor attached to their role PM. You will not learn anything else about their PM.

Your factional abilities are as follows:
~

Private Communication

: You have access to The Horrible Dreams PT, which is located here.
~

Secret Identities

: You know that EvilModerator, FalselyPropheticFridge, and AbandonedMall are also aligned with

The Horrible Dreams

~

Factional Kill

: The Horrible Dreams have access to a factional kill, which you may use every night in an attempt to kill another player in the game.

You win if

The Horrible Dreams

compromise half the town, and all threats to your faction are dead, or if this situation is impossible to prevent.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me OR by posting in your PT.

Spoiler: Abandoned Mall

Abandoned Mall

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, AbandonedMall! You are a

Abandoned Mall (Mafia Jailkeeper)

, and aligned with

The Horrible Dreams.

I had a dream once that I was stuck inside this place. I couldn't escape nor do anything to get out. It's always been a weird place to return to, and think about. Do you think it wants me stuck there?

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

Jailkeeper

: Each night, you may target another player in the game simulataneously protecting from all kills tonight, and roleblocking them.

Your factional abilities are as follows:
~

Private Communication

: You have access to The Horrible Dreams PT, which is located here.
~

Secret Identities

: You know that EvilModerator, FalselyPropheticFridge, and SuddenlyDemonicFriend are also aligned with

The Horrible Dreams

~

Factional Kill

: The Horrible Dreams have access to a factional kill, which you may use every night in an attempt to kill another player in the game.

You win if

The Horrible Dreams

compromise half the town, and all threats to your faction are dead, or if this situation is impossible to prevent.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me OR by posting in your PT.

Spoiler: Faceless Jury

Faceless Jury

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, FacelessJury! You are a

Faceless Jury (2-Shot Nightmare Decider)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once that I was on trial for something. I forgot what it was, but nobody there had a face. They were like mannequins, and the power they had was uncanny. The second I said something wrong, they'd chain me to the spot and make me do something. I didn't like that dream.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

2-Shot Nightmare Decider

: Twice per game, during the day, you may forcibly cause someone to run the Nightmare. This will be publicly announced. If you use this ability after the Nightmare is full, nothing will happen and you will not be refunded the charge.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me.

Spoiler: Nightmare Runner

Nightmare Runner

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, NightmareRunner! You are a

Nightmare Runner (Weak Informed Hider)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a nightmare once that I was forced to play SAW in an abandoned mall, that was stylized like Code Lyoko. I kept running and running, but I could never escape the nightmare, until I fell into the abyss and died.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

Weak Hider

: Each night you may hide behind another player. Assuming no interference, you will be rendered immune to all kills that night, but will die if your target is killed. Additionally, you will die if you target anyone who is not aligned with you.
~

Informed

: Each night, you will be informed of how many players who cannot win with with

The Good Dreams

were in the Nightmare.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me.

Spoiler: Beacon

Beacon

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, Beacon! You are

Beacon (Innocent Child)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once that you were with me, my sweet, pure boy. That we got to live happily together. I miss you. Please come back to me, I miss you.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

Innocent Child

: At any time, you may post

Mod confirm me

,

Reveal alignment

, or anything along these lines that clearly conveys you wish to use this ability, and I will publicly confirm your role and alignment.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me.

Spoiler: Voidfiend1

Voidfiend Doctor

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, Voidfiend1! You are a

Voidfiend Doctor (2-Shot Masonry Doctor)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once that there were two guardians of some old fortress leading to hell. They were linked together in some intrinsic manner. I couldn't tell you how, but they both had some secret ability to them.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

2-Shot Doctor

: Twice per game, you may target someone to protect them against one kill that night.

Your Masonry details are as follows:
~

Private Communication

: You have access to The Fortress Sanctuary, which is located here.
~

Mason Partner

: You know

Voidfiend2

is also a member of

The Good Dreams

. You also know that Voidfiend2 is a 1-Shot Bloodhound.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me, OR by posting in the Fortress Sanctuary.

Spoiler: Voidfiend2

Voidfiend Bloodhound

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, Voidfiend2! You are a

Voidfiend Bloodhound (1-Shot Masonry Bloodhound)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once that there were two guardians of some old fortress leading to hell. They were linked together in some intrinsic manner. I couldn't tell you how, but they both had some secret ability to them.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

1-Shot Bloodhound

: Once per game, you may target someone to learn if they are "Town" or "Not Town".

Your Masonry details are as follows:
~

Private Communication

: You have access to The Fortress Sanctuary, which is located here.
~

Mason Partner

: You know

Voidfiend1

is also a member of

The Good Dreams

. You also know that Voidfiend1 is a 2-Shot Doctor.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me, OR by posting in the Fortress Sanctuary.

Spoiler: Lost Dragon Corpse

Lost Dragon Corpse

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, LostDragonCorpse! You are a

Lost Dragon Corpse (2-Shot Graveyard Medium)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once that there was the corpse of a great beast, and it served as a graveyard of souls. You could freely communicate with them, and they could communicate with you, but someone had to be willing to be the conduit. I was that conduit.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

2-Shot Graveyard Medium

: Twice per game, during the day, you may target a dead player in the game, if you are still alive, or a living player if you are dead. That player will be informed at the start of the night phase that someone is reaching out to them from the other side. You will be given access to a PT with them, where you may freely post for that night. At the end of the night phase, the PT will lock, and remain locked for the remainder of the game.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me.

Spoiler: Biblically Accurate Angel

Biblically Accurate Angel

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, BiblicallyAccurateAngel! You are a

Biblically Accurate Angel (Town JOAT)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once that BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID BE NOT AFRAID.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

JOAT

: You have access to several 1-Shot abilities, which are listed below.
~

1-Shot Doctor

: Once per game, you may target someone to protect them against one kill that night.
~

1-Shot Cop

: Once per game, you may target someone to learn if they are a "Horrible Dream" or "Not a Horrible Dream".
~

1-Shot PGO

: Once per game, you may kill all players who target you tonight.
~

1-Shot Roleblocker

: Once per game, you may prevent another player from taking any actions tonight.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me.

Spoiler: Carl

Carl

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, PlayerName, you are now Carl! You are

Carl (Town Vengeful Announcing Fruit Vendor)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once that I met a man named Carl. He did his own thing running a stand, and I asked him why he wasn't scared of dying. He pulled out a deagle and showed it to me, and told me that was the reason why. If anyone tried, he'd be taking them down with him.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

Announcing Fruit Vendor

: Each night, you may target another player. That player will be informed that Carl targeted them, and that they were given a piece of fruit.
~

Vengeful

: If you die for any reason, you may target another player and attempt to kill them. The thread will be unlocked during this point. You may submit your action via the main thread by posting

VENGE: NAME

or by privately submitting that.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me.

Spoiler: The Final Dreamer

The Final Dreamer

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, TheFinalDreamer! You are

The Final Dreamer (Town Inventor)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once that dreams were outlawed. It was impossible to dream because the government outlawed it. As the final one, I was granted unilateral power to change the world. That was my goal: change the world. I like to think I did so.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

Inventor

: Each night, you may target another player and give them an invention. The limits to your invention are what is considered Normal on the forums. Please keep action submissions to one modifier and one ability. Anything more complex than that is subject to my own discretion to decide if it would be normal. If I feel I have to PM implosion to ask if it would be allowed in a normal, I will reject it.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me.

Spoiler: Gary Oak

Gary Oak

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, GaryOak! You are

Gary Oak (Town Hated Bodyguard)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once that you were here. I hated you so much for being in this dream. But you did save me, and for that, I'm grateful.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

Bodyguard

: Each night, you may target another player. If that player should die, you will instead die.
~

Hated

: You take one less vote to eliminate. This is publicly announced at the start of the game, and reflected in all vote counts as "Korina".

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me.

Spoiler: ShadowMan

Shadow Man

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, ShadowMan! You are a

Shadow Man (Town Detective OR Psychologist)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once there was a man who nobody could see, and as a result, he was the world's greatest PI. He told me everything about me before disappearing again, and told me about my trauma and how it effects my life, and then disappeared again.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

Choice

: Before the game begins, you must submit which role between the two you would like.
~

Detective

: Each night, you may target another player in the game to learn if they have killed someone else before.
~

Psychologist

: Each night, you may target another player in the game to learn if they possess the ability to kill someone, and have not used it yet. If they have killed someone previously, you will be given a negative result.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting which role you would prefer to be.

Spoiler: Mystical Magical Table

Mystical Magical Table

Strange Dreams Mafia

Welcome, MysticalMagicalTable! You are a

Mystical Magical Table (Town Non-Consecutive Commuter)

, and aligned with

The Good Dreams.

I had a dream once there was a table that could just fly, but not for very long. If someone tried to hit it, it'd be impossible to hit, but it had to wait a few seconds between flight to do it again.

Your personal abilities are as follows:
~

Defaults

: You have your voice, and your vote. You may use both of these to try to kill whoever you think is not aligned with you.
~

Non-Consecutive Commuter

: You may choose to commute at night, rendering you immune to all actions for that night regardless of anything that would say otherwise. You cannot use this ability twice in a row.

You win if

all threats to

The Good Dreams

are dead, and at least one member of your faction is still alive.

Please confirm you have read this PM by submitting your flavor back to me.

[Korina]

Only change is that Gary Oak is now publicly known to be hated, and the hated vote is "Korina." I also explicitly confirmed to the IC that I will reveal their role and alignment, which means if they are culted, they will publicly reveal as cult instead.

None of the roles include the phrasing of "Assuming no interference" for the most part, since I feel like that's pretty standard.

[furtiveglance]

Only change is that Gary Oak is now publicly known to be hated, and

the hated vote is "Korina

." I also explicitly confirmed to the IC that I will reveal their role and alignment, which means if they are culted, they will publicly reveal as cult instead.

None of the roles include the phrasing of "Assuming no interference" for the most part, since I feel like that's pretty standard.

I don't follow

[furtiveglance]

Oh ok I do

[furtiveglance]

Neighbourizer not Neighbourizor in the LSD PM

[Korina]

Spelling error fixed.

For RH as well as shorthand, on a VC the hated vote looks like this:

vc

Gary Oak (1) voted by Korina.
furtiveglance (0) voted by none.
RH9 (0) voted by none.

Not voting (3): everyone.

VCs would look nicer than this, but cba atm

[RH9]

I skimmed through the Role PMs.
They seem fine but I'm not sure if I missed any typos or not.

[Korina]

Does the setup look fine then?