Open 497: Tit for Tat (Game over!)

[Sakura Hana]

Tho did you read my last post RW?

[Radioactive Wolf]

Yeah, and thad might very well be scum

But Ankamius is obviously trying to hurry up and end the day now that I'm putting pressure on him and his voting for Thad gives me bad feeling about a thad lynch.

[Ankamius]

...

Are you still going by the same logic that was terrible the first time you said it?

[Antagon]

"Howard still lives with his mother and Raj can't talk to women unless he's drunk. Go."
"An adult Jewish male still living with his mother is so commonplace that it's not even cliche. Selective mutism on the other hand is relatively rare, but does occur. An inability to talk to women suggests a fear of women, which is why the two of you have created an ersatz homosexual relationship to satisfy your need for intimacy."

Vote Count 3.03

(As of Post 499)

ThAdmiral - 2 (RachMarie, Ankamius)
RachMarie - 1 (ThAdmiral)
Ankamius - 1 (Radioactive Wolf)
Not Voting - TMTOLBTWNTOF, Sakura Hana
With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch and 3 to No Lynch.

Deadline is June 24th, 7 A.M. PDT or in (expired on 2013-06-24 07:00:00)
Let me know if you see any mistakes.

[ThAdmiral]

All I knows is, I aint scum.

Ankamius has been off my radar for most of the game, but then again what better place for scum to hide. I've been flipping back and forth on my sakura read. Maybe she is town after all? Which would make it scum from ank and rach. I've been off this game, I think I'm just going to sheep wolf here.

vote: ankamius

[Sakura Hana]

I want to hear a case on Ank before i decide to sheep wolf on that, i know he's high chance scum, but i don't wanna risk it.

[Radioactive Wolf]

No pushing a case, no nothing. Just something about how his post was eaten by MS, but since then he's made no attempt to even vaguely recap his reasoning but he apparently felt good about slapping down a vote.

You can't be serious. The scumteam is 100% obvious to me because of basic PoE. The only way pushing a case isn't a waste of time is when I'm likely to get lynched.

So yeah I'm feeling good about slapping down a vote. There's virtually no way Rach and ThAd aren't the scumteam.

I don't care about your point of view and nobody besides scum has any information that makes them that confident.

Once TMT and I claimed the PRs, wouldn't you be questioning your initial reads instead of rushing ahead with them? (since they were, you know, really wrong)

[Ankamius]

You would have a point if any read I ever had was ever stronger than my town read on Sakura. It was blindingly obvious within the first several pages that this was the case. None of my other reads were remotely that strong at that point, and basically nothing she said throughout the game has changed that. Reads that strong don't flip on a dime.

So I'm basically lost as to what you want me to do here. I could make a case on why Sakura is town, but there's really no point since AFAIK everyone (except maybe one person?) already agrees with me. So why exactly am I scum for not pushing a case? Why am I scum for not recapping my reasoning (which would've been incredibly obvious to anyone who was paying any attention to me whatsoever)? Why am I scum for having a very strong town read?

I don't care about your point of view

Well then.

[Ankamius]

BTW for above, I'm not counting my read on MeowMix because he was dead when I replaced in. Confirming my read biases it.

[Ankamius]

newearth's play was little more than glorified active lurking and Ankamius's initial reads pretty much just mirrored popular opinion at the time. The people he picked on were me (lurker), TMT (lurker) and alice (popular wagon).

...and I was the one who was opportunistic?

Ok, I have enough time to do something so I'll respond to this.

Your reads list was basically crap. RachMarie had very little content up to that point and freezing-hell was lurking his ass off. I could easily see you looking for a freezing-hell lynch for towncred and Rach really was an easy target compared to a lot of the other players. Your other scumreads really didn't make much sense (I was leaning town on Johhog and TMT at that point was on the town side of null).

Sakura Hana was one of the most active people and would be really difficult to lynch if people looked into her more closely, and MeowMix was making good points everywhere and had the most genuine scumhunting of the entire player list. You'd be hard pressed to find a case to lynch either of them, so they were your town reads.

That's how I saw it. Yes, they looked really opportunistic. That combined with Monty's play gave me a solid scumread on your slot.

Alice just looked like scum and I have no idea what you're talking about with TMT. My three null reads were essentially the same with only mild degrees of separation.

[TMTOLBTWNTOF]

I don't care about your point of view and nobody besides scum has any information that makes them that confident.

FHPOV, it is basic PoE. Sakura is town, and he is town. So the other two are scum.

Also, how did the Rach wagon dissipate so quickly?
Hmm

[TMTOLBTWNTOF]

I don't care about your point of view and nobody besides scum has any information that makes them that confident.

FHPOV, it is basic PoE. Sakura is town, and he is town. So the other two are scum.

Also, how did the Rach wagon dissipate so quickly?
Hmm

[RachMarie]

TMT you and Wolf are town by virtue of being un CCed PR claims.

I know I am town

That leaves ThAd, Ank, and Sakura.

I feel pretty good about Sakura being prob town, especially since the way FH was pushing on her it did not seem like distancing but like he was trying to get her mislynched.

That leaves ThAd and Ank

Of those two I am more sure of my ThAd read.

Hence that is where my vote is.

[RachMarie]

I will be so glad when I have my new computer. And a new hearing aid too.

But basically have not seen anything that has changed where I am on this game.

[Sakura Hana]

You guys need to post more I still haven't seen a case on why RW's thinks Ank is scummy and I don't want to take any risks, I think Rach is town, but then again she could be scum making me think she's town X_X dangit.

[Sakura Hana]

Also is it just me or it seems most of us have in common that ThAd is scum despite who his partner is?

[RachMarie]

I think it is ThAd and Ank

ThAd is the one I am more sure of.

[Radioactive Wolf]

Also, how did the Rach wagon dissipate so quickly?
Hmm

Becaues the scumbags couldn't get anyone else to jump on.

[Radioactive Wolf]

*because

[Radioactive Wolf]

Food for thought for people who think Ad/Rach: I think Rach would be all over an Ankamius mislynch by now if she were scum with Thad

[Sakura Hana]

I can buy that
VOTE: Ankamius

[Radioactive Wolf]

newearth's play was little more than glorified active lurking and Ankamius's initial reads pretty much just mirrored popular opinion at the time. The people he picked on were me (lurker), TMT (lurker) and alice (popular wagon).

...and I was the one who was opportunistic?

Ok, I have enough time to do something so I'll respond to this.

Your reads list was basically crap. RachMarie had very little content up to that point and freezing-hell was lurking his ass off. I could easily see you looking for a freezing-hell lynch for towncred and Rach really was an easy target compared to a lot of the other players. Your other scumreads really didn't make much sense (I was leaning town on Johhog and TMT at that point was on the town side of null).

Sakura Hana was one of the most active people and would be really difficult to lynch if people looked into her more closely, and MeowMix was making good points everywhere and had the most genuine scumhunting of the entire player list. You'd be hard pressed to find a case to lynch either of them, so they were your town reads.

That's how I saw it. Yes, they looked really opportunistic. That combined with Monty's play gave me a solid scumread on your slot.

Alice just looked like scum and I have no idea what you're talking about with TMT. My three null reads were essentially the same with only mild degrees of separation.

You didn't say my reads were crap, you specifically called them "opportunistic" which I think is bizarre since none of my scum reads were in any kind of danger of being lynched at that point.

Your reads

were

opportunistic because the people at the scum end were either lurkers who probably weren't going to defend themselves very well or popular targets and the people at the town end were town by popular consensus anyway.

And TMT was third in your scum list (you can assign whatever separation you want at this point). That's what I'm talking about.

[Radioactive Wolf]

TMT, if Ank ends up being scum rolecop, investigate Rach. I'll kill thad.

[RachMarie]

I could go for that Wolf... sounds like it is probably an auto win.


Intent to Hammer Ank...

[Antagon]

Page grab.