Zom Com Mafia - Mini 1225 (Abandoned)

[Seraphim]

Because I had other scumreads and I was afraid of getting NKed for my reads and no one else following up on them.

Chrono looks scummy as fuck dude. Look at his non-committal stance on just about anything. And doesn't he usually lurk as scum? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Because I had other scumreads and I was afraid of getting NKed for my reads and no one else following up on them.

Chrono looks scummy as fuck dude. Look at his non-committal stance on just about anything. And doesn't he usually lurk as scum? I seem to remember reading that somewhere.

Chrono is a chronic lurker regardless of alignment. Sad to say. Best game to highlight of recent vintage? Battle for Olympus Mafia.

I find the key to players like that is not post volume but hindsight intent and VC Analysis. Isn't very easy to do early but usually yields good results.

[Seraphim]

You wanna wagon Ace?

[MagnaofIllusion]

You wanna wagon Ace?

In a heartbeat. His play looks like very calculated linking to Maru before Maru even flipped despite the fact that he held off actually voting Maru for far too long.

Also - going to bed now.

[Seraphim]

Unvote
Vote: Ace

Let's roll.

[Nikanor]

Vote Count 2-7

Captain Corporal (4)

- Chronopie, PeregrineV, InflatablePie, MagnaofIllusion

Seraphim (3)

- SleepyKrew, Captain Corporal, ace5993

Twistedspoon (1)

- Bogre

Bogre (1)

- Twistedspoon

ace5993 (1)

- Seraphim

Not Voting (3)

- TheJakalope, Starbuck

With twelve votes in play, six votes are required to lynch.

Deadline hits in (expired on 2011-09-17 01:53:41).

InflatablePie is now being replaced.

Starbuck has been prodded.

[Chronopie]

I didn't ignore the 1st page RVS wagon:

Vote: Chronopie

Hai.

Hai Starbuck, also hai <snip>

It was RVS. Would you expect to to {Bitch | Moan | Over-react in some discriminating way}?

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And yes, I tend to be an early-game chronic lurker. IK. I'm trying to work through that.

It tends to be late-game, post-scumflip(s) that I can catch teams. And have done.

[Captain Corporal]

Ok, Sera is messing up my read on him. If he was scum, why isn't he on a major wagon?

[TheJakalope]

I'm telling you, Sera isn't scum.

[Captain Corporal]

Urghgmrfbn
Why am I playing so badly.
If I unvote now I'm going to get wagonned =/

[TheJakalope]

What the hell kind of thinking is that?

Why am I not voting you?

VOTE: CC

[Captain Corporal]

Claim time.
I'm Albert from Resident Evil. I'm a ressurector.
I have a one-shot ability, Outbreak. If I want to, in the night, I can choose one corpse to ressurect. They will return to life.
I also have a passive that tells me when this ability is used by someone else.
Any questions?

[TheJakalope]

Hmm..

I'm inclined to believe you. Get your vote off Sera though.

Unvote

[Captain Corporal]

Sure
VOTE: Jak
What the hell kind of vote was that? Jump on the biggest wagon, no explaination.

[TheJakalope]

Urghgmrfbn
Why am I playing so badly.
If I unvote now I'm going to get wagonned =/

This is not a town post, CC. This is why I voted you.

[Captain Corporal]

So why did you unvote? Why am I not scum? My claim? I could still be scum.
I see your #534 and raise you one #537.

[Twistedspoon]

just vote bogre...

[PeregrineV]

Claim time.
I'm Albert from Resident Evil. I'm a ressurector.
I have a one-shot ability, Outbreak. If I want to, in the night, I can choose one corpse to ressurect. They will return to life.
I also have a passive that tells me when this ability is used by someone else.
Any questions?

you're asking me why my role PM changed? I can't answer that without claiming and I don't see why I should at all. That's bizzare

Because I know you were a non-Human yesterday and a Human now. And that seems fishy as fuck to me.

I'm Columbus, from Zombieland. At the beginning of each day, I receive a list of players that are non-Human ("check the backseat"). Yesterday, I had Maruchan and you on my list. Today, you're not on there.

In addition, I have a vig-shot ("zombie kill of the week") that I can use once on a non-Human player. I didn't use it last night on you because I thought you were telling the truth about the Miller claim. Apparently you're not.

PEdit: I call bullshit.

@capt Corp- So were you informed of the massive miraculous recovery of Twisted spoon who went from "non-Human" on "the list" to "Human"?

[MagnaofIllusion]

InflatablePie who is now MoI"

No, you have this wrong. I replaced Cojin not IPie.

[PeregrineV]

InflatablePie who is now MoI"

No, you have this wrong. I replaced Cojin not IPie.

Yeah, I just noticed when re-reading through. Consider this an EBWOSEP.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Yeah, I just noticed when re-reading through. Consider this an EBWOSEP.

Well I pointed it out because the quote attribution part (originally written by IPie) is correct but the replacement part is not.

IPie's stand in is still yet to come.

@NIk - Could you update the First post to show me replacing Cojin? Thanks so kindly.

[PeregrineV]

@MoI- I see Ace as misguided town, but mostly give him town points for his "hammer" of Maru and explanatory posts leading up to it. Why is he on your scum list?

Serpahim I think has been scummy in his play, but have yet to decide if he's actual scum. His flailing and basically asking SK to lay off him looks bad, but he's not votable for me yet.

Starbuck is flip flopping scummy/town, making real posts mixed with one-liner fluff crap.

And since this is a unique situation, I'm putting the day1 VC out there.

Maruchan

(8) - InflatablePie, Bogre, Starbuck, SleepyKrew, TheJakalope, Seraphim, Chronopie, ace5993
TheJakalope (2) - Twistedspoon, PeregrineV
Starbuck (1) - Captain Corporal

Not Voting (2) - Cojin,

Maruchan

So even based on this, there are three scum either voting thier GF, or not.
Are all three on the wagon? If not, there is one off the wagon. I know it's not me, and Twisted claimed previous miller, leaving Capt Corp and MIA Cojin. Since you've replaced in for Cojin, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the "Where is 3 scum?" question.

[Twistedspoon]

all 3 are on the wagon

why not? Maruchan was probably the weakest link for the scumteam. why not drop the baggage and get town cred?

[PeregrineV]

all 3 are on the wagon

why not? Maruchan was probably the weakest link for the scumteam. why not drop the baggage and get town cred?

I look at the Mod's Iso and see single votes on just about everybody. Can the smaller scum team just sacrifice their godfather like that, esp. considering it

does not

give them town credit?

[ace5993]

@Sera

- When/why did you start having suspicions of me?[/quote]

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@MoI

- Why is IPie town again?

The early three vote train on Chronopie peaks my interest, especially in light of Seraphim’s reaction to being voted.

Expand on this please.

CC’s 99 I don’t like in that he completely ignores Maru completely and does some fence-sitting on Seraphim while simultaneously voting him. The followup Starbuck vote is something I’m going to have to look at in full. He attacks Starbuck for a weak-bandwagon hop that looks to me like bussing. Merits further observations.

You voted CC because he was the most viable wagon out of your top scum picks but this was your only point on him.

Those most likely to be bussing: Starbuck, Ace, Jakalope (at last 1 scum is here for certain)

Those who fairly strongly defended Maru: Twisted, CC (most likely only 1 scum here max)

Those who ignored Maru completely: Chrono, Peregrine (likely scum here also)

Yet CC ended up in your shortlist of scum while Chrono and Peregrine were both leaning town (note my first quote in this post). Your other point on him was ignoring Maru at the beginning of the day, which then turned out to extend throughout the entire day. How do you have a leaning town read on him again?

My read on Seraphim is pretty Town. Not voting him currently and looking at the top of page votes for him I don’t see that changing.

Your point on him was that you liked his reaction to Maru's claim - in what way?

Summary: Magna's reads on key people (aka the nonsense reads):

Chronopie - gives early reasons to think Chronopie is scum, then switches his read to leaning town because Chrono hasn't posted much and there's nothing to go on. Hmm.

IPie - Obvtown for no reason.

Seraphim - Town, only given reason is that he liked Sera's response to Maru's claim.

SKrew - Leaning scum because of a suspected fake claim (wtf?). It should be noted that SKrew had already told everyone the claim was fake before MoI posted this.

CC - Only valid point is that CC voted Sera without a strong scum read on him but oh wait... it was CC's first vote out of the random stage and he did give a reason as to why Sera was scum. MoI then goes on to say that strongly defending Maru is a town tell yet somehow the other reason supersedes that and he votes CC. Except oh wait who had the most votes on them when MoI arrived? Oh yeah. CC was the largest wagon of the day so he needed a contrived reason to vote CC.

Sera wagon isn't flying right now and all this deserves a vote so

Unvote, Vote: MoI

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To put in some sort of response on the case on me, it looks like MoI's main points of attack are me not being as suspicious of Maru earlier in the game and my case on Seraphim (which includes all the controversy over that one Maru quote). I think the best response I can come up with is that I wasn't as suspicious of Maru earlier in the game and I think Seraphim is scum. The case isn't completely contrived like the one on CC (also note MoI's STILL not voting me, even after Sera did), but it's pretty weak and I don't think he wanted anyone other than CC to get lynched today.

CC's claim is neutral, but the early claim leans town and his subsequent vote of Jakalope looks like town, albeit stupid town for forgetting that Jakalope is conftown. Plus the wagon has obvscum MoI, probscum IPie, and possiblescum Chronopie.

Deadline's coming up so... I will support lynches of MoI, Sera, and IPie today.