Micro 656: Dem Tryouts 4 - GAME OVER

[Aeronaut]

Do you have an arguement that isn't this circlejerk or are you going to park your vote somewhere else

[Vedith]

I'm going to bed. You've made it clear enough you are talking bollocks and people will see it if it's today or tomorrow.

[Aeronaut]

I assumed you would lurk the rest of the game so I'm going hide away now because I forgot to think of any reasoning why you're scum

FTFY

[Pine]

I'm about to leave the house and wasn't expecting the volume of posts to respond to, ill address more when I'm home from date night with the wife

Two things I want to touch on now, @Aero, is yes I do have enough history with GreyIce to say that ragequitting is a Towntell. It's not absolutely ironclad, as it's possible you all pissed him off enough that he'd want out regardless, but it's a strong sign. I've seen him do it before. Second, I have presented a case on you, though it's a little harder to wrap it up in a neat bow.

Dunno. That voice in the back of my head that's smarter than me says I'm missing something, so I may be due to reevaluate this game

Unvote

until then

[Pine]

Okay, after a wonderful date night with my wife*, I spent an hour or so trying to scratch that nagging "you're doing something wrong" itch with regard to this thread. I realized I'm approaching it from the wrong direction. It's less about scumreads, and more about Townreads. The unique distribution of alignments makes pinpointing Townies a lot more productive. Allow me to explain - given that we all have bulletproof, if even two Townies are correctly identified, it's going to be practically impossible to lose, because it will take ages for scum to kill them. Seriously, four nights to systematically shoot their BP, then shoot them. Yes, if the scumteams collude, they can do it faster, but they're way more likely to engage in crossfire.

So my new objective is to find the Town bloc, and then lynch the rest. Here we go...

Player List

Vedith
Jester
GreyIce/Gamma
rb/GuiltyLion
Aeronaut
ThinkBig

Points of order

+ GreyIce/Gamma is my strongest Townread, mostly a nearly bulletproof meta tell thanks to GreyIce.
+ Jester is crazy super insanely scummy. There were several incidents on D1 which I think qualify as genuine scumslips, plus his apparent allergy to do anything productive. Add to that his shameless lurking to avoid attention today, and I just cannot see him as any kind of Town. No, not even newbie moronic Town.
+ Vedith is also really scummy, but a lot more malevolent than Jester. Where Jester is just vomit-in-your-hair unproductive, Vedith is perpetrating a far more aggressive scumgame, with blatant and aggressive manipulation and voter browbeating. Also scum.

That leaves me with two Town and one scum in {GuiltyLion, Aeronaut, ThinkBig}. That's a bit tough, because I have mild scumreads on practically all of them. So let's re-evaluate them.

+ GL is a bit of an enigma. I disagree with practically all of his reads (except Vedith), but what little content he's produced has been pretty focused in its attempts to get information and pursue reads. I'm thinking probably Town.

This leaves one of {Aeronaut, ThinkBig} as scum, the other Town, and I still haven't figured out the subconscious warning. I'm starting to suspect I'm wrong-headed about Aeronaut. I looked back over my N1 catchup, and I found that the scumpoints I'd given Aeronaut were mostly revolving around the no lynch. He actually was going to be credited with Townpoints earlier on, but multiball. I also do not see scumbuddies Infinity and Aeronaut, both of whom are experienced and clever, being so bold about pushing the No Lynch. The progression of the case and my desire for pressure today was largely due to his absence, which a little quick research shows was site-wide. I'm inclined to reverse my thoughts on Aero, which leaves us with one candidate - ThinkBig.

Let's do the due diligence, though. I looked back over D1, and I'm a little surprised TB got away with only the one scumpoint. Maybe I added wrong? Forgot to tally something? Post 399 is super worrying, for reasons already stated. Jester and TB both seem to have made the same scumslip, of not noticing that Townies are bulletproof. I don't see Townies forgeting their own role like that. It's been way too much a fundamental part of my strategic considerations for it to just slip Town's mind. Then there's his scummy participation in the No Lynch, and his preference to just sit back today and let us go at it. Yeah, I'm convinced.

Summary

I think I've got this game solved. Town is Gamma, Aeronaut, and I. Scum is Vedith, Jester, and ThinkBig. GuiltyLion is probably Town too, based on PoE, but I suppose it's possible that one of {Jester, ThinkBig} is just so green that their bumbling is coming off as scummy.

Comfortable lynching any of those three scumreads. I'd like to go with Jester.

Vote: Jester

[Pine]

Actually, it just occurred to me to ISO Infinity and do a search for references to those three scum players. It totally checks out. He spends almost all of D1 going after Jester and ThinkBig, and soft-defends Vedith on several occasions, only to later lump Vedith into his scumreads as an afterthought.

Vedith is probably Infinity's partner. Let's get rid of an entire team.

Unvote
Vote: Vedith

That's L-1

[Vedith]

Okay.
Lynch Aero tomorrow though and just hope that scum get each other.

[ThinkBig]

Catching up now. I am fairly confident from what I have seen that Jester and Vedith are scum.

Intent to hammer

[ThinkBig]

Vote: Vedith

[The_Jester]

Well I was just about to say I changed my mind about Vedith and try to convince people not to lynch him. Why the fuck would you lynch 2 minutes after stating intent? Fucking awful

[Vedith]

Gamma is town btw. Take that as a fact
Jester is most likely town take that as you like.
GG all.

[Vedith]

Also, Pine and TB are probably the 2 scummier to look at as the final team.
Aero seems pretty legit on town.

Good luck town I love you all <3

[shos]

VC 2.3 - LYNCH

OMG A LYNCH

Deadline is in: (expired on 2016-11-28 02:13:13)

Votecount

:

The_Jester

-

Gamma Emerald

-

Aeronaut

-

Pine

-

ThinkBig

- Gamma Emerald

Vedith

- GuiltyLion, Aeronaut, Pine, ThinkBig

GuiltyLion

-

No Lynch

-

Not voting - The_Jester, Vedith

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[shos]

Day 2 has ended with a lynch.

Spoiler: Vedith??

Vedith

has been lynched.
He was the

SCUM A Goon.

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Night 2 starts now. Scum have to send me their actions in PM or PT.

Deadline is in:

(expired on 2016-11-20 18:58:55)

[shos]

Opening the day before time, because one scumteam is down and the other has agreed to it.

Night 2 has ended.

Spoiler: Has somebody died?

Nope! Nobody has been killed.

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VC 3.0

And so, another day begins...

Deadline is in: (expired on 2016-12-03 16:13:13)

Votecount

:

The_Jester

-

Gamma Emerald

-

Aeronaut

-

Pine

-

ThinkBig

-

GuiltyLion

-

No Lynch

-

Not voting - GuiltyLion, Aeronaut, ThinkBig, Pine, Gamma Emerald, The_Jester

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.

[ThinkBig]

Thanks @mod for ending the NP early.

We have one team down, 6 town and 2 scum. We really need to lynch correctly this DP. I'll provide a better analysis when I get home, but for now, I am strongly leaning towards a GL/Jester team.

See you guys this afternoon.

[ThinkBig]

If anyone has any questions about my hammer, I was pretty confident that Vedith was scum after re-analyzing DP 1 and after infinity's flip. Pine's post had me convinced. Looks like he was correct.

[The_Jester]

Still I think it's more beneficial to have 1 scum of each faction rather than 2 of one. There's no need to fear the additional nk since it's unlikely scum would waste 2 nights for a townie and they'd rather go searching for other scum. And Vedith was suspected to be the solo goon. Only scum have the real motivation to eliminate the other scumteam first so they can focus on dismantling town. This fact makes me even more suspicious of Pine, who is probable scum b imo.

VOTE: Pine

[Pine]

Okay, this is LyLo, or at least MyLo, so let's think this through. I'm pretty sure at this point that our scum A team is Jester and ThinkBig, but I want to run a few more ISOs before I commit to that. Probably going with Jester though, he's the one I suspect the most. Those scumslips on D1 were pretty terrible.

[ThinkBig]

I'm fairly confident Jester is scum. One thing we should do is go back and see who is defending who as scum is most likely going to defend their buddy in a game like this (much like infinity and vedith).

[ThinkBig]

Though at the same time, I also have a slight FOS on Pine. I don't think the two would be aligned as scum. One of them is town.

[The_Jester]

Pine and TB controlled bussing confirmed

[ThinkBig]

VOTE: Jester

Scum=Confirmed

[The_Jester]

Nervous much?

[Pine]

Nah fuck it. We can argue about who Jester's partner is D4. If he's not scum, I'll eat my hat with a smile. He was counterproductive and scumslippy on D1, and active lurked through D2. I don't see a Town-motivated post in his whole ISO

Vote Jester