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[House]

I said I was a "self-targeting FN"

You copied that claim from me, btw.

[House]

I had a gut feeling you were faking watcher crumbs.

I wasn't even. Kyouko brought it up, and I rolled with it. I didn't even ask what crumbs because it would have confirmed me as NOT being a Watcher.

@Kyouko: Now is the time to show me my so-called Watcher crumbs. Thank you.

Permission to Garcia?

*pictures Math as teacher's pet, murmuring, "ooh, ooh, I know" when the teacher calls on a different student*

[House]

I said I was a "self-targeting FN"

You copied that claim from me, btw.

Ready for some moonlogic House?

I have a really weird theory.

I love moon logic.

[House]

I should've kept the Watcher gambit going on and claimed House didn't visit DGB. (Will I EVER learn to catch up in full before I post????) *Sigh*

I guess that's one way to commit suicide.

There are more efficient methods, though.

[House]

I said I was a "self-targeting FN"

You copied that claim from me, btw.

Ready for some moonlogic House?

I have a really weird theory.

I love moon logic.

DGB And A50.

A50 is scum watcher.
Claiming watcher dooms DGB to elim.
So he has to claim VT.

But I think I may be paranoid and A50 is probably VT but I hate my paranoia.

That would make for a hilarious dead thread, if dwlee outed night actions.

[House]

There's a nonzero chance the the mafia no-killed.

After losing a member on D1?? I very much doubt it.

Why aren’t you instantly voting DGB then?

Because I suspect House more now. His behaviour around Wake's wagon was HORRIBLE. Even when asked to put him @E-1 and wait for a claim he refused to do so. It was pretty weird for someone who claimed to have suspected Wake for a long time of the day.

Gimme your vote, then.

Be a man of conviction.

[House]

I agree DGB is the more likely to be scum. Doing my diligence in case A50 is or both are.

I told.. regardless of your alignment you never understood (and probably never will) how I play this game. I NEVER bus that hard. NEVER. I hate bussing to begin with, but if I had to do it I do it when necessary AND I give my p an out or two.

Gimme your vote, if I'm scum.

[House]

Maybe House is scum JOAT, maybe just lying about targeting me.

[House]

Maybe MathBlade is lying about his role, maybe he's scum with House!

Wow, Math and I had some Hollywood levels of theater on d1 if we're both scum.

Counterclaiming reach other and shit.

You've broke the case!

[House]

VOTE: DGB

Calling Math & I scum together after that d1?

It's not even pretending to solve.

[House]

VOTE: Dgb

If DGB is town then A50 is scum or shot.

I think I kinda want both dead and flipped.

How is he shot if he's true claiming VT and you target him tonight?

[House]

VOTE: DGB

Calling Math & I scum together after that d1?

It's not even pretending to solve.

I was joking about Math saying I'm scum with A50, but I like your conclusion that you should vote for me.

I live to serve.

[House]

I'm hesitant to scumread friends, because I can get pretty unpleasant with my scumreads and I don't want to push friends away over a shit read.

Yeah, it does make games more difficult for me... but I'd rather deal with the difficulty than not play with those few players that can actually tolerate me on a long-term basis.

I can relate to that some. I mean; I sometime don't want to FoS someone because I feel they'd be pissed IRL, or because I haven't played with them for a long time.. etc. I "almost" didn't want to push Wake, but the evidence was too strong to ignore, and when you believe someone is indeed flipping red they can't really blame you for playing the game.

In short, I suspect you, but I am not exactly fixated on you.

Now here comes my problem: I have to choose between you, DGB & Ytham (according to my own reads). I have to try and be right here because I am sick of myself being spot on at one point and being far off at the next. I want to be right all the way for once.

Why isn't Kyo in your list?

[House]

I don’t see a downside if you’re town here

If you take it in isolation sure. I'm cool with it on principle.

But it comes back to my longest streak of being both town and scumread to hell from Day 1 and being killed before, say, NotMafia. I am angry because I am fed up and worn down, it's been just a long and thankless grind.

If there was a game, say, where a huge crowd of 3 people townread me I think I'd weep.

See this just feels icky.

In Warehouse 13 where you were miselimmed you were different. I went to bat for you because you were obvTown to me. I can do it when I am sure one way or the other. In this game I am not though.

You also did have a game where a huge crowd townread you. It was the game you were a cop in.

I mean, I have reasons to believe that post may be genuine tbh

[House]

Gimme your vote, then.

Be a man of conviction.

Why the rush? I believe CSF, Kerset, Andres, Kyouko & DotW haven't posted today yet even, so why would I want to commit to a push when HALF THE PLAYERS haven't chimed in?

Their content won't change the color of my role pm.

[House]

Why doesn’t scum house just say “Yeah DGB is scum” full stop then just look back at you tomorrow?

I'm not him, so I dunno

You can do better than that.

[House]

VOTE: DGB

Calling Math & I scum together after that d1?

It's not even pretending to solve.

So you believe calling you and Math scum after D1 is worse than calling me Wake's partner after the same bloody D1??? I didn't know you smoke that shit!

I don't recall you and Wake both full claiming and countering each other.

Link, please?

[House]

Why isn't Kyo in your list?

Kyouko is Town (1977)

Fair.

[House]

no way is he is a self-targeting FN though.

Why not? I am one, and I am working under the assumption I'm not the only one.

naw I cc. doubt there are 3 of us

Oh! I thought 4 was more like it, and I would be surprised if there were 5 or 6 of us.

Another proof I was always claiming VT

You could have easily said you were meming.

[House]

Gimme your vote, then.

Be a man of conviction.

Why the rush? I believe CSF, Kerset, Andres, Kyouko & DotW haven't posted today yet even, so why would I want to commit to a push when HALF THE PLAYERS haven't chimed in?

Their content won't change the color of my role pm.

They might! What if one of them claims they were COP and got a red check? Or a Tracker who tracked Not-Math to me? Or a Watcher who saw Math & someone else visit me? Or... you know what I mean

Scum tend not to be quite so suicidal as to claim a red check on town on d2.

[House]

@House why didn't you use rolecop on Math? Complex rb had insanely low chance to success.

Not against a neighbor, it didn't.

DGB was a proven PR.

Derp.

[House]

VOTE: A50

A50 strikes me as the old school type that needs some incentive to drop trou.

This is a pretty horrendous vote.

It worked, though.

[House]

3 more votes till a house fakeclaim

I'll give it to you now.

I'm a Compulsive Self-targeting Friendly Neighbor.

Spoiler: House stepclaiming

One of {Mathblade/Me} has to die today.

Math is a scum jailkeeper.

I'm a town roleblocker & Rolecop.

Mod is fucking with us by switching typical roles between town & scum.

I don't even care if you lim me first. When i flip exactly as i say, turbolim Math.

Did you crumb House?

I refused to claim, because saying I'm a roleblocker & Rolecop at e-1 would just result in a hammer anyway.

There is no incentive to actually CLAIM this role as town

My 3rd shot?

1x Neighborizer.

I was going to use it on Titus tonight because we know how to find each other.

DGB is prob town because of Math.

Wow. You guys really don't know how to slow down when a girl is on vacation.

It's worse than that. It seems to me they don't know how to translate roles into a mechanical actions map. I don't see ANY contradictions between Math's and House's roles. It's like a Fruit Vendor is CCing a Vigilante!!!!

You're running your mouth with the benefit of having the full claim.

He claimed Jailkeeper - NOT SIMPLE JAILKEEPER - when i hard countered.

Fix't.

That's what I get for posting while getting set to drive.

Sorry.

I claimed simple and have crumbed simple throughout.

If I forgot the word simple it’s an oversight but I don’t think I have.

Okay.

Well, Simple, Complex, and Lazy are modifiers that were added after I was banned.

I knew what my modifiers were due to my role pm, but didn't really identify Simple as one until it was said a few times.

VOTE: DGB

That's who I roleblocked.

I have to give credit to Nero.

He convinced me the hood was dirty. I just wasn't going to talk about it in the game thread.

House, why didn't we have a party? You said you wanted to get a shiny neighborhood with me.

Since I was outed, I figured I'd likely be the n1 kill so I targeted DGB in an effort to survive.

Wait, what's your claim? It's not roleblocker?

JoaT

Neighborizer
Complex Roleblocker
Lazy Rolecop

do you love to claim in parts?

Lol at you thinking 1718 was a claim.

[House]

I’ll buy DGB’s ATE and say they’re Town.

Wanna hear a funny?
That's exactly why I targeted it.

[House]

House why did you say never to elim Titus if you were elimmed?

I don't want my buddy to be killed.

[House]

Like my gut says House + Kyo or House + Kerset here.

I just don’t know if my gut is wrong or strategy is wrong or both.

You're just wrong, period.

[House]

soo Goof how do you feel about Math so far?

I think Kerset is a huge red flag because if I am scum then that necessitates DGB scum and yet Kerset doesn’t vote DGB.

This makes sense, though.

[House]

Caught up.

VOTE: Kerset

[House]

You’re caught up in that there was no nightkill.
Either House or I stopped it.
If I am scum I don’t stop my own team’s kill.
This means DGB would have to be scum.

In other words if DGB flips town I cannot be scum so your theory of me scum requires DGB scum.

Well my theory literally said that DBG is scum, thank you for nothing

I have weird theory that MB+DBG are scum, who miscommunicated and claimed neighborhood, which doesn't exist. This is why DBG is so mad and gave up on trying.

my question was specifically why do i need to vote <24h after daystart

Why would i vote so soon? On day 1 i haven't voted for half day (page 47 of 94) and you didn't complain.

Ok Stephen Hawking, why does Math block DGB's shot?

Why would the scum team no kill after losing a member on d1?

Your theory is nonsensical.

[House]

Ok Stephen Hawking, why does Math block DGB's shot?

I call this a slip.

VOTE: House

You're right. I forgot Math's modifier.

Not the first time I've forgotten something of his, probably won't be the last.

[House]

All I know is, DGB needs to go toDay.

After that, I'm dead so it doesn't matter.

[House]

A50, can we pick a scum to camp on while town bickers like last time?

Kerset sounds good.

Come camp here with me and House.

Or elim DGB.

Those are the only two smart elims.

Everything else is a punt.

You scared of a lockTown me?

Yes, because your reads are worse than Rebecca Black's Friday.

I actually like that song.

Not for the quality of it, mind you. I respect the girl for chasing her dream.

Have you heard her latest work? She DOES have a voice.

[House]

What if the remaining scum is just House and CSF?

The game would have to be declared as bastard.

[House]

^
was a very strange reaction

No, it's not.

Flipping a different alignment from my role pm is a mod lie.

[House]

Nero isn't even attempting to understand me.

He's just shading event I write to look at scummy as he possibly can.

[House]

Also, isn't DGB known for AtE as scum? If so why are people town reading that?

Can't answer that yet.

Willing to go Ythan.

+1 but I will say that I dislike the strat regardless of its alignment because it's a shade of OGI as I have to consider the real life effect that being eliminated in all of its games is having on it which weighs against my judgment in this one.

[House]

Why did you use rolebloc instead of rolecop?

To stay alive. Results don't mean shit if I'm dead.

[House]

but how would you know that a rolebloc on DGB would keep you alive?

I didn't. I knew it wouldn't fail, as neighbors are PR's and I suspected it off being scum.

[House]

Hey, I have writer's block. Anyone care to help?

Genre? Maybe a plucky young upstart set to inherit town leader from a older gentleman?

I nominate a lawyer.

Seems fitting.

[House]

Hey, I have writer's block. Anyone care to help?

Genre? Maybe a plucky young upstart set to inherit town leader from a older gentleman?

you won't be usurping me, bro

I loled my pants.

[House]

@House why didn't you use rolecop on Math? Complex rb had insanely low chance to success.

Not against a neighbor, it didn't.

DGB was a proven PR.

Derp.

[House]

has DGB claimed?

Everybody knows that it is a neighbor.

That's d1 content.

[House]

has DGB claimed?

I hate that this post undermines my OMGUSy suspicion.

[House]

yes, I know that but Math is a claimed neighbor+ and DGB is a plain neighbor? also a neighbor+?

No idea if it has any other roles.

It had one known role and I suspected it, so that was enough for me.

[House]

VOTE: DGB

It's terrible that DGB's AtE makes me feel like shit for voting it, but I kinda agree with CSF and I thought I was the only one who thought I'd be the likely kill, so I wasn't going to push it.

[House]

Yet another reason to eliminate DGB.

Red flip townfirms her and we can move the fuck on.

[House]

Yet another reason to eliminate DGB.

Red flip townfirms him and we can move the fuck on.

My glorious beard thanks you

Her.

I'm referring to CSF, who is bringing attention back to DGB after the wagon fell apart.

[House]

I know. It's a fair assumption. I've stumbled a few times.

I think I'm doing better, though.

[House]

Ugh now I am paranoid Titus Kerset help me

House convince me Titus is town

Refer to what I told Wake yesterday.

The center must hold, or it all falls apart.

[House]

Ugh now I am paranoid Titus Kerset help me

House convince me Titus is town

Refer to what I told Wake yesterday.

The center must hold, or it all falls apart.

?? That doesn’t help? Wake was scum?

It does help, if you pay attention to what I said.

I said to refer to what

I told Wake

, not what he told me.

[House]

Vote Count 2.04

DrippingGoofball (4)

- DrippingGoofball, MathBlade, Cat Scratch Fever, House

House (2)

- Dragon of the West, Almost50

Cat Scratch Fever (1)

- Titus

Not voting (5)

: Ythan, ssbm_Kyouko, Kerset, Nero Cain, Andresvmb

It takes

7

votes to eliminate.

Mod Notes:

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-10-03 23:06:00)

DGB's AtE vote is the only bad one on the wagon.

[House]

DGB's AtE vote is the only bad one on the wagon.

There are no bad votes. :/

The only way that is true is if DGB is self-voting as scum.

If it's scum, you should join the wagon.

[House]

DGB, you tunnel me constantly. I have like zero sympathy for you.

You're in no position to whine about that.

[House]

And in the best case scenario House is conf.

conf what?

Town. Because then DGB almost certainly did the kill and House stopped it.

I want to hear more theories that involve me not having night actions.

Refer to the theories that assume A50 was the n1 target.

[House]

DGB, you tunnel me constantly. I have like zero sympathy for you.

You're in no position to whine about that.

I don't really care. I'm just saying that DGB is being a hypocrite.

And I'm just saying you're a pot calling the kettle black.

[House]

lolno

[House]

lolno

When I flip green, what other possibilities are there?

Nero will continue pushing both Math and I under the presumption that your green flip means we HAVE to be the remaining scum.

Ya heard it here first.

[House]

The scum is probably cackling and not posting.

CSF, Titus Ythan...

Titus isn't scum.

[House]

Nero will continue pushing both Math and I under the presumption that your green flip means we HAVE to be the remaining scum.

you mock and put words into my mouth.

Strange thing to complain about, considering you were twisting my post just hours ago to imply scum intent where there was none.

You should expect mockery. You'll get used to it, if I have to get used to your shenanigans.

[House]

Nero will continue pushing both Math and I under the presumption that your green flip means we HAVE to be the remaining scum.

you mock and put words into my mouth.

I already think scum is you and 1 of DBG/ythan/kerset/CSF

I don’t see House + DBG unless they shot A50 and I kinda doubt it.

House wouldn’t visit a partner in the case they thought A50 was a watcher.

I dunno about DGB, but I couldn't identify a bread factory.

[House]

House could lie about targeting DBG. And DGB says they won't flip scum anyways so if DGB flips town it just means House was scum with ythan/kerset or CSF

Them when I flip town, all of a sudden you'll call Mathblade scum again.

[House]

A50, can we pick a scum to camp on while town bickers like last time?

I have way too many theories going through my mind right now I can't decide who

is

scum. Truth be told, when I try to recite my TRs from memory (i.e. when I'm thinking of the game while offline) I only have you, Nero & Andres on my mind. When I come back and look at the players list (but still no reasoning or details) I also remember Kyouko & DotW. Everyone lese has some good and some bad, and any of them could be scum. This means I have 6 clears (including myself) and 6 in the pool. Not enough for an auto win. I need at least one more clear (preferably 2, but 1 will do), and it doesn't help that neither CSF nor Kyouko are talking.

If you can't find me, your town win rate is an anomaly hombre.

[House]

God damn if I'm ever that shit as scum, somebody take me out back and put a bullet in my head irl.

You were around when I was here last and knew damned well that I didn't do the dumb shit as scum you're accusing me of, A50.

[House]

I was known for hard bussing my team and carrying for the win.

You're talking some lv0 bullshit.

I mean...

[House]

@Math: Why is Ythan clear to you? And what do you think about my paranoia of House/Wake?

FTFY

[House]

A50, go read my scum games and try to say your theory holds a drop of water with a straight face.

I dare you.

[House]

[House]

A player that can win as SK doesn't make lv0 plays when they're in a team.

[House]

What if the remaining scum is just House and CSF?

The game would have to be declared as bastard.

How so?

Keep reading, already answered your question.

[House]

Random note: this game was a romp.

[House]

You were around when I was here last and knew damned well that I didn't do the dumb shit as scum you're accusing me of, A50.

Mate, I can't remember what I ate for lunch. Are you kidding me? Am I supposed to remember how you played from 2 or 3 years ago??

And besides, that ain't that bad play either. It just didn't rhyme with Wake's thoughts.

OK.. WHY did Wake self-hammer there?? Take a wild guess and support it with some logical arguments.

Also WHY did you BOLD "I fully do not intend to vote you"?? Why even where you so stubborn against Wake's lim??

I'm pretty sure I mentioned earlier that I don't like to eliminate the few people I consider friends that have the patience to put up with me on d1.

[House]

You were around when I was here last and knew damned well that I didn't do the dumb shit as scum you're accusing me of, A50.

Mate, I can't remember what I ate for lunch. Are you kidding me? Am I supposed to remember how you played from 2 or 3 years ago??

And besides, that ain't that bad play either. It just didn't rhyme with Wake's thoughts.

OK.. WHY did Wake self-hammer there?? Take a wild guess and support it with some logical arguments.

Also WHY did you BOLD "I fully do not intend to vote you"?? Why even where you so stubborn against Wake's lim??

I'm pretty sure I mentioned earlier that I don't like to eliminate the few people I consider friends that have the patience to put up with me on d1.

2541

[House]

How can I answer the question as to why Wake would self-hammer?

[House]

My best guess would be to shut down discussion, or possibly frustration at being caught out on d1 right after he returned to the game after years away.

[House]

Shutting down discussion after the lim is decided is a pretty basic scum tactic from back when we played last.

[House]

Okay so we have either an a50 clear or an a50 goon guilty or a dgb guilty is that right?

Or one or both of math and house are scum

You caught us.

We're both fakeclaiming and you nailed it.

God, you're good.

[House]

Or if math and house are both town it is possible scum no killed because they expected that due to Math and House's abilities that it would be impossible to know who is innocent or guilty based on their results. For this scum has to assume House will try to roleblock though.

1) stupid to not try when they're already down 1 member on 1
2) Roleblock is an easy assumption to make considering I dropped trou.

[House]

Or if math and house are both town it is possible scum no killed because they expected that due to Math and House's abilities that it would be impossible to know who is innocent or guilty based on their results. For this scum has to assume House will try to roleblock though.

1) stupid to not try when they're already down 1 member on n1*
2) Roleblock is an easy assumption to make considering I dropped trou.

[House]

As for tonight, I'm going to Neighborize a townread that is not Titus, as I expect scum will just kill her to annoy me.

Then if I'm still alive n3, I'll work with my townread to decide on who to Rolecop.

I don't see myself living that long outside the existence of a protective that townreads me actually existing, but there you go.

[House]

Cat is Town (1456)
Kerset is Town (1784)

1800 negates 1456
1784 is hardly clearing, but whatevs.

[House]

1784 is hardly clearing, but whatevs.

Why would Kerset be excited about Wake being wagoned?

Looks to me like he was poking fun at the 2 players with Hugh Laurie avatars both being the top wagons, which is NAI.

[House]

One way or the other...

@A50: hence my...

[House]

Okay so we have either an a50 clear or an a50 goon guilty or a dgb guilty is that right?

Yep.

Leaning towards A50 guilty, myself.

With the way he pushed the Wake wagon? I doubt it.

With the way he pushed the Wake wagon? I doubt it.

I mean, it's not 100% impossible b/c scum know who each other are and scum bussing their buddies to look better is a thing.

Typically a goon or weak player gets sacrificed on d1.

Wake was neither.

Wake was situationally weak with his nonpresence in the thread.

Does that fencepost have a comfy cushion?

[House]

I mean yeah, I was playing both sides too, but that was mainly to argue with Nero.

[House]

OK... so... if I buy House & Math are both Town I think my preferred lim would be Ythan

VOTE: Ythan

Sheep me at will

Do you think Ythan targeted you on n1?

I don't see any world where scum doesn't pull the trigger, here.

[House]

Ythan slot is the 4th most active in the game with over 200 posts between them & Gamma.

Not saying active players can't be scum, but I hope there's more to the case than circumstantial implications such as associatives, because I was townreading Gamma.

[House]

Being sloppy is more a scum fear for me.

I don't think incomplete information is how you develop good reads.

Or has the meta shifted and I wasn't aware of it.

Nobody asked you for good reads, they asked you to open yourself up to being analyzed and you refused.

Not when I'm catching up on the game.

If House is Scum we'll be revisiting this.

Lol that's a weak ass threat.

That's some boss theatre, if they're both scum.

[House]

@House why didn't you use rolecop on Math? Complex rb had insanely low chance to success.

Not against a neighbor, it didn't.

DGB was a proven PR.

Derp.

Why does scum send a PR to kill you instead of a goon if they know you are Complex?

1) I specifically avoided mentioning my suspicion of DGB on d1.
2) I had mentioned an intention of Neighborizing Titus on n1 when I dropped trou (which I would have done, had I not claimed & made myself a juicy target)

Didn't really matter who they sent to make the kill, from their punt of view.

Notice all the questions I had to field about it, toDay.

[House]

V/LA until midnight tonight. (Nocturnal RN working ten 12-hour shifts in a row. After 0000 med pass I can hopefully get some time in.)

Good points have been made wrt Wake88 but given the above I am willing to give this player slot more time to fully develop.

Wow I totally thought that was House the first time I saw it.

I kinda believe this.

Him making this post as scum only makes sense if the team is exactly Wake, Ythan, me.

[House]

1) I specifically avoided mentioning my suspicion of DGB on d1.

Why would I kill

you

if you didn't suspect me?

I won a large game as SK by killing off anyone who suspected me, one by one.

Gee, I wonder... why would scum kill an outed PR?

Shit, I have no clue.

[House]

@House: The thing is

if scum believed I was a Watcher

they could not have tried to shoot you, because I kept asserting you were the N1 kill all through D1. If they thought I was a Watcher they probably also thought I'd be on you specifically.

Fair, but I do have serious doubts that Ythan is the droid we're looking for.

[House]

Maybe you should stop voting yourself, if that's true.

[House]

@House: The thing is

if scum believed I was a Watcher

they could not have tried to shoot you, because I kept asserting you were the N1 kill all through D1. If they thought I was a Watcher they probably also thought I'd be on you specifically.

If we are both town, what the hell is going on?

If y'all are both town, A50 was likely the target due to perceived watcher crumbs.

[House]

If y'all are both town, A50 was likely the target due to perceived watcher crumbs.

And that would make MathBlade town.

Are you expecting an argument?

[House]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

[House]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

Welcome back!

[House]

[House]

I remember why Drunk Titus was a meme.

CSF is an alright choice.

I would hope you'd think so.

You've been after her forever.

[House]

My eyes.

They roll.

[House]

I said I was a "self-targeting FN"

You copied that claim from me, btw.

Ready for some moonlogic House?

I have a really weird theory.

I love moon logic.

DGB And A50.

A50 is scum watcher.
Claiming watcher dooms DGB to elim.
So he has to claim VT.

But I think I may be paranoid and A50 is probably VT but I hate my paranoia.

That would make for a hilarious dead thread, if dwlee outed night actions.

If this is the case Math is just a Simple Doctor because if House is town his block only works on PRs, if House blocked DGB and A50 is a scum watcher, then all 3 of the scumteam are PRs, meaning Math's role is just a doc. Weird to think the mod would make him a JK instead of a doc, if his only ability effectively is to doc. Maybe the idea is to bait Math into trying to stop the kill by targeting a potential goon, but seems like a weird train of thought to entertain, even if it's moon

In that world I am a JK to look bad to house rolecop possibly.

I mean, if I were more familiar with the modifiers before this game and got a Simple Jailkeeper result on you, I'd probably view you as the other half of my own, Complex, role.

[House]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

Let’s not do bad wagons please?

I agree.

You need to vote CSF.

[House]

VOTE: Cat Scratch Fever

Let’s not do bad wagons please?

I agree.

You need to vote CSF.

CSF is a bad wagon.
CSF is a good vig.

DGB or Kerset are the only good wagons.

I'm not eliminating DGB on what we have toDay.

[House]

CSF is a bad wagon.
CSF is a good vig.

Dead is dead. I have no clue whether we even have a vig.

I'd rather see to it myself than wait for something that may never happen.

[House]

She sure does.

When she flips.

[House]

So, there's only 1 scum left?

Where did you get this info?

[House]

You blocked DGB. There is no kill.
I jailkept A50. There is no kill.

DGB is most likely scum here.

And if not we prove a shit ton rather than assume it.
I use assumptions as scum to manipulate games.

I would rather prove things.

Pedit: There’s likely two.

But anywhere else has a much greater shot of hitting town.

Ergo only DGB or Kerset

Nah.

A50 was the likely target because we were the obvious watcher targets.

If you blocked the kill, there's a whole world of scumspects out there.

[House]

DGB is literally doing outed scum with the PT most of today.

DGB, what say you to this?

[House]

Nah.

I'm digging this CSF wagon.

[House]

DGB is scum or just isn’t trying anymore

Terrible take is terrible.

Ketchup.

[House]

DGB is a neighbor.

It's not making it to Elo.

I'm more concerned about actual threats.

[House]

Literally an opportunistic vote on the largest wagon.

I mean, I'm used to some of us old fucks being trollishly surface level scummy as town to fuck with people who have level 0 play, and that looks like what's going on here.

You're judging A50 like noobscum, which he is not.

VOTE: Wake88

Tataru.

A50 isn’t newb scum but this is his scum meta. I linked it from the charge me up game.

I am debating putting Kyo still in avatar jail or maybe House in c’mon and obvTown jail.

Anyone wanna be awesome and just like go “hey I am town?”

This post didn't age well.

[House]

Why did you use rolebloc instead of rolecop?

To stay alive. Results don't mean shit if I'm dead.

still think this is wildly dumb.

I'm going to use my roleblock ability with the 9% chance to stop a kill instead of be helpful and gather information.

Then not even follow up on it.

Like I am scared of all the people who don’t want to elim DGB.

We must

all

be scum!

[House]

DGB is a neighbor.

It's not making it to Elo.

I'm more concerned about actual threats.

CSF is a lurker.
She’s not making it to Elo.

I am more concerned about established actual threats like DGB and Kerset.

You can shade my opinion all you want but that’s all it is.

If I can take your argument and swap it with another player and it’s true you likely have a bad argument.

Good thing that's not the case, then.

[House]

Please light this post on fire.

*lights 2927 on fire*

Much better.

*douses the rest of Mathblade's posts with kerosene & tosses then on top*

[House]

Please light this post on fire.

*lights 2927 on fire*

Much better.

*douses the rest of Mathblade's posts with kerosene & tosses them on top*

Fix't.

*does the same with his own typo-riddled posts*

[House]

Why did you use rolebloc instead of rolecop?

To stay alive. Results don't mean shit if I'm dead.

still think this is wildly dumb.

I'm going to use my roleblock ability with the 9% chance to stop a kill instead of be helpful and gather information.

Considering how shit your reads are, I don't give half a rat's ass as to your opinion of what's dumb.

[House]

DGB is literally doing outed scum with the PT most of today.

DGB, what say you to this?

Wow

That is a pure unadulterated lie

Wow

Cool.

VOTE: MathBlade

[House]

Could someone explain why MB and House started to TR each other? Their claims make no sense to coexist but they keep looking at bystanders to kill.

I always vote townreads, yo.

[House]

Before I go...

VOTE: Andresvmb

Poke me when you want to gather your sheep.

[House]

House says we aren’t elimming DGB votes CSF.
Then says A50 was the likely save meaning he townreads me Kerset in that post.

No it doesn't.

It means you no-killed lady night and have been trying to use that no-kill all fucking day to force a conf town onto yourself.

I believe every word DGB said about what happened in your hood.

You.

Are.

Scum.

[House]

House says we aren’t elimming DGB votes CSF.
Then says A50 was the likely save meaning he townreads me Kerset in that post.

No it doesn't.

It means you no-killed last* night and have been trying to use that no-kill all fucking day to force a conf town onto yourself.

I believe every word DGB said about what happened in your hood.

You.

Are.

Scum.

[House]

Between the very different claims about what was said in the hood, THERE HAS TO BE SCUM THERE.

My bet is on Math because he's the one that has the power to manipulate the game state to forward an agenda.

[House]

You can trust lightbulbs.™

[House]

If it wasn't DGB block then why math picked A50, who could be a watcher? At he time of claim A50 could say that he is TPR and simple would have no effect on him.

Math didn't pick anybody.

He no-killed. His agenda for doing do is all over the thread. He's been trying to force town to consider him conf town all day.

Not buying it for a second.

If he flips town (highly doubt it), we lim DGB, but there HAS to be scum in the neighborhood with the wildly different claims about what was said and Math has been spewing agenda all day.

[House]

If it wasn't DGB block then why math picked A50, who could be a watcher? At he time of claim A50 could say that he is TPR and simple would have no effect on him.

Math didn't pick anybody.

He no-killed. His agenda for doing so* is all over the thread. He's been trying to force town to consider him conf town all day.

Not buying it for a second.

If he flips town (highly doubt it), we lim DGB, but there HAS to be scum in the neighborhood with the wildly different claims about what was said and Math has been spewing agenda all day.

[House]

I don't care.

What matters to me is the contradictory claims about what was said in the neighborhood.

It makes more sense for Mathblade to be scum between the two because he's the one in here trying to push an agenda. DGB gets nothing out of lying as scum except maybe a day before its imminent elimination.

Math has far more to gain by lying.

[House]

House what changed your mind on No Kill?

I spelled it out.

If you can't read, I damned sure ain't buying any case you have to sell

[House]

House what changed your mind on No Kill?

I spelled it out.

If you can't read, I damned sure ain't buying any case you have to sell

I apparently can’t read, because I don’t see it.

Is your complex attached to your entire joat or just your roleblock?

I don't see what further dropping off my trou does to forward a town wincon.

I can certainly understand why scum wants to know, however. Risk assessment.

[House]

House what changed your mind on No Kill?

I spelled it out.

If you can't read, I damned sure ain't buying any case you have to sell

I apparently can’t read, because I don’t see it.

Is your complex attached to your entire joat or just your roleblock?

I don't see what further dropping off my trou does to forward a town wincon.

I can certainly understand why scum wants to know, however. Risk assessment.

If your neighborize is not complex and you’re town then you can have a hood with the agreed upon town a50.

If it is complex only then that furthers my paranoia you hooded DGB and are buying it time.

You didn’t answer my question either.

What made you change your mind about no kill?

House+Kerset+DGB looking mighty fine. House traitor neighborizes DGb

I claimed the modifier for my Rolecop eons ago.

If my Neighborizer had had a modifier, I would have mentioned it then.

[House]

Furthermore it prevents the “oh I neighborized the dead player” bs as A50 can’t be dead.

This will really make your head spin, then:

I'm not going to Neighborize A50.

I await your hand-wringing with anticipation.

[House]

*shrug*

I don't give a hot damn what you do. I refuse to do a single thing you want.

If that results in my elimination, I'm abso-fucking-lutely fine with that because frankly, I'm tired of your bullshit.

[House]

Don't give a fuck.

I'm done with you.

[House]

I don't give a shit how many thousands of times you repeat and insist upon it, I'm not buying one letter of your narrative.

Your logic has been nonsensical, and I'm damned sure not going to cooperate with someone when I don't see where they're even coming from.

Instead of bashing my head against the wall for the rest of the game, I'm disengaging.

This is my last post to you.

[House]

@House, Math just lost a game due to, partially, his partner not killing anyone. He doesn't no kill here.

Even Math agrees DGB's summary was accuraye. He's just assuming incorrectly that Math is scum for it.

He does have an agenda to be conftown but his accuracy is likely correct unless DGB flips scum.

UNVOTE:

Before I go...

VOTE: Andresvmb

VOTE: Andresvmb

Everyone else is heroing and I can’t stop that from happening

DGB is doing good amount of AtE.

DGB scumreads me despite literally not being able to if town.

So like you tell me Titus, who’s really the “heroing” here?

You. We went over this repeatedly.

Your mechanics aren't sound.

Your vocal, inaccurate push that drowns the thread is getting you scumread.

If everyone else is wrong in your opinion, have a guilty or step back and listen.

I hear humankind is a fun game.

So. Much. This.

[House]

The most protown move is to rolecop (which tbh should be done on previous night).

even if Kerset is scum this is correct

So, is scum!Kerset advising scum!me on how to use my role here in the game thread instead of our PT?

[House]

If I'm scum, why do I admit to having an investigative role instead of claiming something else that gives town 0 info?

[House]

Unless it's eliminated toDay, I'm Neighborizing DGB so we can trade gossip toMorrow if I live.

There's something else y'all can use to base a vote on me for.

[House]

House memes rock.

[House]

Of course, Chase has his moments, too.

[House]

Weird, I hear some sort of rattling.

Must be the wind.

[House]

Unless it's eliminated toDay, I'm Neighborizing DGB so we can trade gossip toMorrow if I live.

There's something else y'all can use to base a vote on me for.

I would looooove to trade gossip.

And recipes!

[House]

Unless it's eliminated toDay, I'm Neighborizing DGB so we can trade gossip toMorrow if I live.

There's something else y'all can use to base a vote on me for.

I would looooove to trade gossip.

And recipes!

Knitting charts!

Bridge strategies!

[House]

/inb4 "1329 is scummy"

[House]

/inb4 "1330 is scummy"

[House]

Someone have a recipe with few appliances/ingredients to share? Newbie cook with small apartment.

Microwave + frozen burritos

I keep mine thawed in the fridge so i only have to nuke them 42-43 seconds per side. Warm so the way through, don't have to wait for them to cool.

[House]

Someone have a recipe with few appliances/ingredients to share? Newbie cook with small apartment.

Microwave + frozen burritos

I keep mine thawed in the fridge so i only have to nuke them 42-43 seconds per side. Warm so the way through, don't have to wait for them to cool.

I was hoping for non microwave.

Small pot + Ramen (I prefer chicken, and use chicken broth instead of water)

[House]

Someone have a recipe with few appliances/ingredients to share? Newbie cook with small apartment.

Microwave + frozen burritos

I keep mine thawed in the fridge so i only have to nuke them 42-43 seconds per side. Warm so the way through, don't have to wait for them to cool.

I was hoping for non microwave.

Radiant cooking appeals to my impatience, especially after a long day when I'm tired.

[House]

House memes rock.

maybe take your own advise brother

But I'm scum, right?

This looks like you're talking to misguided town.

[House]

But I'm scum, right?

I do think its v likely but in the possibility that you were town I don't think your constant snark and being loud is being helpful to town.

Who would be scum House’s partner(s) in a scum! house world?

hot take

Save for Wake himself his wagon was all town and the remaining scum is in

Ythan
Kerset
DrippingGoofball

Andresvmb

House
Cat Scratch Fever

ofc if House is scum then its just 1 of ythan, kerset, DGB amd CSF

What if I'm bussing Andresvmb in a big brain move and make a run at winning solo?

[House]

We MUST eliminate one of House or DGB to stop this abomination.

I'll appease you by promising to stop, which will simultaneously take away your excuse to eliminate us based on the prospect of further "abomination" and make you scumread me even more.

I promise to stop.

See how efficient I am?

[House]

*grabbing this page by the bottom*

[House]

[House]

But I'm scum, right?

I do think its v likely but in the possibility that you were town I don't think your constant snark and being loud is being helpful to town.

Kinda weird that you're complaining about my loudness being unhelpful to town when I was not loud nearly as long as the catalyst of my own loudness.

Personally, I feel consistent, overbearing loudness is far more off-putting than clapback loudness that dies out quickly in comparison.

[House]

VOTE: CSF

A50, we can pray for an investigation on Andres. CSF is likely scum too.

@Math, Major rule of 3 violation in Wake88 ISO btw.

I'm checked out (for now, at any rate). Titus is my proxy.

VOTE: CSF

[House]

... lol

[House]

I'm interested to see who you think is scum if Math is town.

House

[House]

Bah.

Wrong one.

Kinda.

[House]

Elimming DGB proves Kerset scum regardless of flip

Lol.

I can't help but consider this intellectually dishonest.

[House]

Elimming DGB proves Kerset scum regardless of flip

Lol.

I can't help but consider this intellectually dishonest.

Not claiming it's a scum motivated post, just desperate to get his way.

[House]

Spicy.

[House]

[House]

/inb4 "1329 is scummy"

Wow, i think i massacred the numbers in those 2 posts.

[House]

Not feeling a Kerset wagon.

Too much of an agenda behind it.

[House]

Besides no town player goes “I am going to neighborize the person I thought did the scum kill”.

More proof that you're lying. You know I'm a spiteful ass when I'm pissed off.

Your sister also knows it, and knows that you know it, so idk what you're even trying to accomplish.

[House]

I stopped caring what you do a while back.

I thought i made myself clear on that.

[House]

I also told you that I'm not doing shit that you want me to do.

Spiteful ass, and all.

[House]

If DGB gets eliminated, I'm Neighborizing

*rolls die*

DotW

[House]

If DGB gets eliminated, I'm Neighborizing

*rolls die*

DotW

If we don't eliminate CSF, please rolecop him.

Even if I had any intention of using that role tonight, I damned sure wouldn't announce the target.

That's just shit play.

Doing so directs scum who to shoot.

Target dies, I'm shaded as killing it so i won't have a result.

Math thinks he's playing 7d chess but fails at basic logic, or is simply scum trying to commandeer the game narrative.

Either way, I'm not toeing the line.

[House]

I refuse.

Period.

End. Of. Story.

[House]

Because with House’s refusal I believe he is outed.

Do me a favor.

When you see my green flip, never fucking join another game with me.

Now when I'm dead, you'll know just how serious i am about this request.

[House]

Because with House’s refusal I believe he is outed.

Do me a favor.

When you see my green flip, never fucking join another game with me.

Now when I'm dead, you'll know just how serious i am about this request.

I will not respond to this as I do not think it follows site rules to do so except to say that if you are green in my opinion you are throwing. Point blank.

Have i not mentioned?

I stopped caring about your opinion a long time ago

[House]

TIL Mathblade calls the game "you".

[House]

Titus, if CSF is scum, why are they calling on me to confirm their claim?

I get why anyone else would do so, but why a scum with a fake vig claim?

[House]

I'm just going to claim Town [redacted] Backup Vig. Incidentally, I think I'd make for a good rolecop target tonight, and if House survives and can name my entire role, we'll basically have two locktowns because there's already a flipped scum role cop and I don't think scum would be given two role cops.

[House]

Interesting how Math completely ignores the likelihood I die and I'll put money on him continuing to defend CSF when i hit the graveyard.

[House]

He's buying time and trying to burn House's rolecop.

It is a possibility but only if team is CSF+Math. Only Math can be threat by rolecop.

Shush, you.

[House]

Math just doesn't want a hood to exist that he isn't able to manipulate with his spam theorizing.

[House]

He's buying time and trying to burn House's rolecop.

It is a possibility but only if team is CSF+Math. Only Math can be threat by rolecop.

CSF + me requires me no kill which doesn’t happen

Why not? You expected vig kill n1 and even if this didn't happen then you could say that it was thanks to JK.

To expand upon this, Nero claimed vig d1 & didn't start today screaming about being blocked (probably because scum was hoping he'd shoot me).

[House]

He's buying time and trying to burn House's rolecop.

It is a possibility but only if team is CSF+Math. Only Math can be threat by rolecop.

CSF + me requires me no kill which doesn’t happen

Why not? You expected vig kill n1 and even if this didn't happen then you could say that it was thanks to JK.

To expand upon this, Nero claimed vig d1 & didn't start today screaming about being blocked (probably because scum was hoping he'd shoot me).

Scum missed an opportunity on not blocking Nero if they have one, because he would have demanded my head immediately when i claimed blocking DGB, so I don't think they have one.

[House]

I have bullets, who do I shoot tonight and why?

@Math: In case I haven't been clear, please stop talking to me. You don't even know what's going on but you want to be a tyrant.

[House]

You're letting an alleged backup for a role that doesn't exist is as bad as me buying a vig enabler.

The purpose would be to prevent "Simple" JK from protecting them

That's fair, tbh.

[House]

I'm good with an Ythan lim.

VOTE: Ythan

[House]

In b4 that's who crumbed Vig.

I don't need to check CSF. The fact he wanted me to tells me he's town. It would be a waste of my role.

Mr. 7d chess can't even make simple inferences.

[House]

A50 do you agree if House doesn’t check CSF he is scum?

House can do whatever he wants to do, THEN we judge him. I understand his frustration over being ordered around. I don't like being threatened myself either.

[House]

House what is your current stance on DGB elim?

I'm a follower, today.

If Titus and A50 want Ythan, I'm fine with that.

[House]

VOTE: Ythan

[House]

House what is your current stance on DGB elim?

I'm a follower, today.

If Titus and A50 want Ythan, I'm fine with that.

I'm just going with the one person that A50 and I agree on. I don't want it necessarily but I want to keep the town core together as I can and this is acceptable, barely.

Not my first pick either, but y'all won't lim him.

[House]

In what world does scumteam House/DGB Target A50 over Nero?

7d chess, indeed.

[House]

House double voted

I forget my agenda, sometimes.

[House]

The problem then becomes he has to guess who he can safely claim blocked on. If Nero is a gambiting PR he’s dead.

He has a very tiny pool and saying DGB is safe claim to have blocked.

Town!Math knows I'm not so incompetent as to claim to block my own buddy.

I've won way too many games as scum to be that derp.

I suck as town, but nobody impugnes me scum game.

[House]

TBH, Math is acting way too scummy today with all his faulty logic and his assertion on being "conf!Town" which ONLY HE believes to be the case. This is now reminding me of his play in The Battle For Calculasia. The only question is WHERE did his kill go, as I don't think he would no kill.

It would have to be DGB.

[House]

TBH, Math is acting way too scummy today with all his faulty logic and his assertion on being "conf!Town" which ONLY HE believes to be the case. This is now reminding me of his play in The Battle For Calculasia. The only question is WHERE did his kill go, as I don't think he would no kill.

It would have to be DGB.

Can’t be DGB you’re only a roleblocker claim.

True.

My mind is everywhere else, today.

[House]

Because with House’s refusal I believe he is outed.

House is IDGAF!town.

It's honestly sad that you can read me better than Math.

[House]

We still should be eliminating CSF though.

I don't understand why a backup vig claim is believable. There doesn't seem to be a vig, and if there is a vig, a backup is too much late-game firepower in the hands of town.

Not if scum is loaded with PR power.

Vig cuts both ways. CSF could butcher scummy town.

[House]

TBH, Math is acting way too scummy today with all his faulty logic and his assertion on being "conf!Town" which ONLY HE believes to be the case. This is now reminding me of his play in The Battle For Calculasia. The only question is WHERE did his kill go, as I don't think he would no kill.

He could no kill.

I mean, it's not beyond the pale considering he thinks of himself as playing 7d chess.

Such a mindset would include making unexpected/unpredictable plays to misdirect.

[House]

It would have to be DGB.

Yet MATH is pushing the hardest to lim DGB. They're not partners either.

a) I'm not implying they are
2) not being the driving force of whatever happens today, be knows he can take whatever outside serves his agenda

[House]

It would have to be DGB.

Yet MATH is pushing the hardest to lim DGB. They're not partners either.

a) I'm not implying they are
2) not being the driving force of whatever happens today, he knows he can take whatever posture serves his agenda

Fix't

[House]

I'm interested to see who you think is scum if Math is town.

House

If you won't go to the mall with your wife during X-mas then you aren't much of a husband

I don't need to be there when she's buying my shit.

Everything else, she can order on Amazon.

[House]

getting leashed and turning the game into a double elimination is pro-town play. If you think Andre is a bad shot tell me who is a good shot.

Andre is a bad shot on N1. He takes time to turn on. I'd just shoot Titus but I doubt you'd do that. A50 or Wake are decent shots, especially if one is eliminated and flips town. Then we know a lot on D2.

If we lim Andre & he's actually a vig, he's coming for me.

Also, your post is curious considering you're claiming to scumread me but didn't list me as a vig target.

I mean, you were the one that didn't think ndre was a good shot and you refused to talk about who is

You keep saying that, when I've never given an opinion on the vig shot that i can recall?

and u aren't b/c?

Because you're just going to target me anyway. No point

Clearly, I never thought he might be vig.

- House

[House]

By play and by claim House is scum.

I don’t have to elim him today though.

My goal is to setup town to do so even after I get shot tonight.

Yeah Math. Clearly I'm all about killing people that are pushing me.

That's why Nero is dead right now.