Open 897 - Cop 17er [DAY 6]

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i am flattered u think im scum dann, that means a lot to me

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theta tell me why dave is town, besides the fact im voting for dave

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at this point ill just take people explaining their townreads if no one is willing to make a case on anyone.

I mean i made a case on davesaz, the most feedback i got it on it was from dave himself who just said im not wrong on anything im saying except my conclusion

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the hold steady was kind of very town?

starting to doubt u read the game

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the hold steady was kind of very town?

starting to doubt u read the game

the best timeline is if meuh was mafia all along and we're just being slowly tortured via water drip

imagine pretending ur not doing that to me already because ur mafia

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VOTE: lemon tangerine

right now this is the most confident scum read I have

where were you yesterday my friend

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its a joke how i was asking for that slots death yesterday.

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im not saying i won't vote lemon here dannflor but can you engage in my davesaz case a bit

and thank you ari for quoting it
ur the best scum pal a growlithe can ask for

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I don't even feel like that is true. Davesaz has done zero sorting since he "solved Titus" and then called me scum and then dropped it.

He was supposed to give us a VCA solve at some point and just stopped.

Like if u want to say he is lazy town, go for it i guess.
We have so much laziness going around i don't know how u sort it as town or scum at this point

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i think ari just made that point and im stealing it and not giving her credit

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i don't think ari and bella are being lazy right now and totally fine with them winning this as scum

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oh I thought your case on dave was that he perspective slipped when he was talking to you and forgot to treat you like a suspect

No i still think thats true

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i was just counter arguing what dannflor says that this is how davesaz always plays

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i don't think davesaz has actually done any sorting of me outside of saying i could be scum due to VCA, then dropping that at some point without showing me why he no longer believed that to be true. (did VCA make me town. I have no idea)

Then he engaged with me not like i expect someone who was either neutral or scum reading me. It feel a bit TMI that he knows my alignment. Again he could be just taking me as town for engagement sake but even if that were true i expect a townie being pushed by someone he assumes is town to be different. (see how dragoneater continually said I sucked)

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@fb,, how am I interacting with you? Maybe you can tell me how I'm reading you

you have already stated u don't know how to read me. I have zero expectations for thinking you will take me as town or scum and assume unless you say you scumread me or townread me ur probably going to interact with me in a neutral way

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i feel like im repeating myself by stating that scum are just blending in with lazy town.
Theres enough town having zero WIM that scum can also pretend to be town who have no WIM and they make it easy to blend.

I say that generality because theres like 3-4 people at most I see that have some WIM (python, ari, myself, bella, i guess throw in dann cause we arent taking the conspiracy that he is a fake n0 even thought thats funny)


And theres 8 players alive outside of that:
davesaz
Enchant
Doctor Drew
yessiree
lemon.tangerine
John Wayne
RCEnigma
Theta Alpine

Not all of them can be scum so scum are using them as hiding shields to get away with no effort. Also I am pretty positive drew is town here.

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davesaz
Enchant
Doctor Drew
yessiree
lemon.tangerine
John Wayne
RCEnigma
Theta Alpine

This is a PSA that if your town and in this group above. Scum are using you to hide. Don't let them do that please and thank you

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im not british bella

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googles knobbish...

i don't think thats AI.

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we need alisae to give vote counts.
we need people to place their votes too.

idc where, just place it somewhere.
Maybe davesaz is town and can make heads or tails but i do want people to make stances and at least give a vote to say where they stand.

ftr i put almost nothing in vca. I just think if we want traction this game we need people to not be sheepish with their vote

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Gob seemed townie tho

you modded game with me and gob being scum together.
tell me how u think this game is different to that game for gob.

I am too biased to see a difference right now.

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Fire thinks I diverted the wagon away from Titus and then bussed, and am not trying to solve.
I say I held off on Titus due to respect for RL she said she had, and I'm pretty bad at mountainous games.

I never said you tried to divert away from Titus.
Try again.

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Fire thinks I diverted the wagon away from Titus and then bussed, and am not trying to solve.
I say I held off on Titus due to respect for RL she said she had, and I'm pretty bad at mountainous games.

I never said you tried to divert away from Titus.
Try again.

I'm not going to search that many posts. Voting Gamma (for pagetopping) and unvoting was part of what you pointed to. Slowing? Whatever.

Can you do me a favor and just tell me where i am on the alignment scale.

I just called you a liar for misrepresenting my arguments. I obviously think ur scum, ive said multiple points on why i think ur scum. You then misrepresented my arguments on why your scum. Which to me if u were town you would be fighting me harder on and saying i am the one misrepresenting your actions.

Yet you agree with most of what i say and then nitpick arguments to fight me on instead of seeing if im scum making an easy push on you or something.

Your not even arguing ur not solving the game. If your town here u should be doing that instead of just telling me im wrong. The fact u agree with that assessment and are doing nothing to course correct is part of the problem.

I already stated if ur town here, ur letting scum hide behind u.


Sort me now. Cause ur engaging me like u know im town and thats how i take all this. But the fact u don't know my arguments on why i think ur scum or not fully understand it is baffling also.

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That is such horseshit that u aren't going to take a stance on me because i have too many posts.

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@davesaz why would i be locktown just for not pushing you

@bella i have no idea what ur talking about

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davesaz, we are but slow individuals.

Please give us the guide on how to read you when you have no stances on anyones alignment that ur willing to share with us lowly morons.

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can you say it one more time and vote for that person

he is saying he doesn't have anyone.

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i don't think davesaz is offering tutoring sessions

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i find it funny the only consensus we can get on in this game is to vote a slot that is empty

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if we were take bella previously logic that Naerys was a bad push.
Now John is a good push.

Interesting how that turns out? lol

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John probably does flip mafia i am just laughing my ass of how silly this game is.

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i thought hua toa was town too. But John performance doesn't inspire confidence in that early read

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i take my comment back, John iso isn't really bad.

This is now just a shit wagon

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i thought hua toa was town too. But John performance doesn't inspire confidence in that early read

the vibe i get on skimming john wayne is that its a relative newbie who replaced in and never really got the hang of the game and then ghosted so I dunno how you're reading anything alignment indicative into his posting.

i was thinking john not keeping up with the game and dropping of was more likely scum given that slot had been replaced twice now. Bad hueristic call by myself without relooking at posts.

Think the replacing out is just rl stuff and not AI at this point and his iso was fine. Not scummy and Hua Tao was townie.

So yeah this is a shit wagon on a slot that can't even defend itself lol

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what do u think dave would be doing as town

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viewtopic.php?t=91800&user_select%5B%5D=24574
Here is his last finished town game 97 posts if you want to skim it

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VOTE: lemon tangerine

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i mean ur just gonna hammer it anyways

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if this gets to E-1 and ur not hammering i am going to tilt my head and have questions

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I’m just gonna say it
If there is scum in my town locks it’s Python

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You have any thoughts why ur still with us
Like I think in world confirmed town doesn’t die ur number one on the list I kill

Yet here u are


And more baffling u are playing this exactly as I see scum me playing this game. 90% joked with 10% content

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How so? We were wrong about titus and also on furtive wagon, we'd shoot gamma over ourselves here as scum if we didn't autopilot a meuh kill

if u think gamma was killed for reads....were u trying to sheep gamma reads beginning of this day?

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while youve been looking at other votes*

Readlist when

hold the phone enchant

r u trying to sort players

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Hi Dannflor can you tell me who my partners are since you are so comfortable im scum? (Spoiler you are wrong but who cares) Dunno your reason to scum me is just omgus'ing on Ari's behalf and then never directly talking to me? Kinda hilarious almost

you realize people can say ur scum individually and not be putting ur name in formula with other players to go "ohh that makes sense"

if u have a team ur very confident on. By all means give us the magic formula

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Ok hi guys! I just finished my first wolf game on my homesite. If you want a read at it to then just scum me because of fear (I sweeped with my team) You can do that too. Just lmk if you would want a link to it or not

you going to share us this game. i ask but ill probably not read it because as far as im concerned ur not really sorting anyone that hard for me to see similarities or difference between whatever game u link.

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+ nobody really seems that interested in reading me in good faith cause ive offered multiple times to give my past games to compare my gameplay but still nope. im either town because naerys or im wolf because i don't agree with your opinion

I literally just asked u for the game u referenced.

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ive skimmed first few pages of iso so far the only notable things are u trying to basically interact with everyone in game it seems. Looks like u try to go for the thread pressence approach as scum and shape opinion on u that way.

Ill read more later but yes this game is different so far from that.

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prodding doctor drew

SO rude

Fire, why does it feel like everytime I am like 'oh ya, he is town' I start to feel like 'but he does seem like he was in the previous Alisae game?'

who are u talking about

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i thought u were talking about pokemon

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i forgot alisae modded that game tbh

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i don't see how i am at all similar to that game. i don't know if i should take that a compliment or insult tbh

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like i don't like towncasing myself but if i were to put my scum game into simple words i would describe it as this:

1) lots of buddying
2) way more confidence on reads
3) way more sane

if you think i am doing all 3 and am similar to that game. I will take this as a compliment

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Like all theta knows to do is mech, we're not surprised she's struggling to form confident reads in a mountainous setup

normally i would say thats a prime candidate for cop check but we kinda dont have that luxury here

Skill issue

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the scum pt is very funny as well

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just read naerys recent scum game. I don't think naerys was playing very similar to this game.

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the i am so obviously town schtick is pretty annoying ngl.

I hope i never do this, i am obviously scum though

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Imagine meta

i can't imagine this. Can u give me something simpler to imagine

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well if that slot was scum, we have no hope of eliminating it now.

welcome jingle

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you should sheep ari

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theta not even getting the naerys case at all.
Typical

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Theta question for u.
Do u read my posts or skip over them

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might want to also add in "don't sheep the confirmed town if they are voting me too"
because u know..a townie is voting u

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i don't think u actually do

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u got ur reads list ready yet

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johnson i want that readslist on my desk by 5 pm or ur fired

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5pm aint happening chief

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I don't feel like i have anything to add to this game.
I don't want to add to apathy, but I really not in mood for some big push on someone.

Happy going for either lemon/dave right now.
I don't know how i feel about RCEnigma, he only pops in when there is pressure mounting on him to contribute which to me indicates scum.

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i should shit post more in this game so that i can at least be enjoying it more.

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im pretty sure im voting lemon
unless ur memeing saying i should pretend i hammered

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Enchant not hammering is disturbing

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ari confirmed town for all i care about.
if any of u argue she is scum i will just spam silly gifs at u about how ur being bad/dumb

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i still think dave is scum

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i still think dave is scum

you could be right but I feel like Naerys did try to interact with dave a fair bit

yeah I just don't think those interactions are clearing.

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i am not like gungho about just yeeting dave though.

I want dave to come in here and give his thoughts on everything. He now has 2 scum flips and plenty of vote counts to analyze.

His play yesterday of not having reads on almost everyone was really annoying and if it continues I think I am just calling it defeated scum.

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Yeah I also thought python was more likely the deep wolf of this game with lemon flip

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lemonflip made me feel more like yessiree was the elim the scum wanted yesterday (so likely town)
also obviously ari if they could get it.

But both being on town and they didn't have enough influence to get either they didn't really want to buss. I think scum were trying best to just lay low and hope we made the same mistake on furtive.

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i also said this a few days ago

but dave and naerys both played a game together awhile ago
yet neither of the two mentioned each other or even referenced the game they played awhile ago. And I still consider that extremely strange from at least davesaz perspective

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ugh ill get the link later bingle. Its in my ISO

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viewtopic.php?t=91800&user_select%5B%5D=24574
there found it, davesaz iso from that game. Both were town in that game

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python also said wanted to sheep gamma reads
u also have that read being on yessiree
and what we know now that yessiree is likely a town mislim
we have a scenario where i think python decides for team that they will try to get an organized mislim on yessiree using gamma kill as a frame.

it makes more sense that Python of the players remaining in the scum suspect pool, would go for the gamma kill rather than almost anyone else.

Its a more thoughtful kill because I think any random scum just goes and kills Meuh on night 2.


You also have to consider that scum figured out who the cop was night 1. How did they figure that out rather than have someone really dig into it and lay it all out.


That points to possible people who could have figured this out in the pool of:
RCEnigma
Theta (claimed it was obvious but im considering that is townie to out right now)
Python

I think the game could be Python/RCEnigma/Dave
like scum are in those 3 right now for me.

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theta independently says came to the conclusion that DE was obvious cop....so yeah

Also u could easily rule me out as cop if RCEnigma is on ur team.

This is all just speculation though right now, without an RCEnigma we don't know if u or scum would have ruled me out as cop.

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I don't even know what ur saying with that post

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VOTE: Fire

Fire is mafia pretending to be town pretending to be mafia

I love you enchant

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de was trying to hide their being a cop behind it being an obvious read

after proposing that that is what people should do for their own innos

which would hide his own claim among a set of other similar ones

Okay and I never claimed a reason for my townread of RCenigma.
I pretended and acted like he was town all of day 1 to solidify that position to make it look like i was informed
and when Titus claimed cop i immediately, as python pointed out, claimed it was horseshit.

I gave a great deal of latitude for cop cover.

This is why I came in day 2 thinking RCEnigma knew i wasn't cop because obviously was mafia.

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FB is town pretending to be mafia pretending to be town pretending to be mafia

ur jokes have been spot on this game and i haven't given u enough credit for them tbh

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Theta i am not arguing with ur analysis on how u think DE was cop. I think ur town here.
I am simply stating not everyone thinks like u and how I think Python could have seen the game if mafia, and especially if their partner is RCenigma.

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I kind of don't want to relitigate this but did anyone have a n1 inno on Naerys or Titus. My memory says no but I am curious

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Or should I say did anyone claim a n0 inno on those 2

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when you present multiple ideas to someone they tend to pick and choose the weakest argument when they're mafia because it's easier to target a specific part of the case that's wrong

i can't respond to this post. I can't find the weakest part to fight Ari on

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Jokes aside I think it would be useful for everyone to post their list of six players they think are free of scum

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Ari
Bingle
yessiree
bella
theta
enchant

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I guess could take enchant out I would def have drew in but I forget about drew sometimes (sorry bud)

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we have 3 mislims open to us.
So we can effectively use the elim as more of a cop shot than an actual "lets def elim who we think is scum"

I think we should go for places we all think are in most peoples uncertain list to get most out of elim and not risk town apathy but I want to collect lists for us to dtermine that.

I also think scum giving out these lists will be useful for figuring out last scum once we get rid of another.

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i am leaning on letting us just elim RCE today since he said he is fine with us just going for him and I am more using this as a cop check (also his flip would really help me see if im crazy with that theory about RCE/Python)

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Didn't know we had 6 daves in this game

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Any reason for all the bella townreads or is it just her not scumposting

thers quite a few reasons but if u have suspicions u want to lay out for us go for it

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What

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Ari/Bingle/yessiree/fb/dave/python/bella/drew, leaves theta/rce/enchant

python gave a list of 8 here

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What

Bella......reasons for town.....

Go!

can i turn in a doctors note for this

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Enchant
Dave
Theta
Bella
Bingle
VACANT

gun to head who u put in vacant

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Any reason for all the bella townreads or is it just her not scumposting

Didn't u put her in too

Yeah but she's there for not scumposting so we wanna know if we missed something that made bella obvtown

I think Bella was the useful townie for scum who wanted Ari dead yesterday.

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Enchant
Dave
Theta
Bella
Bingle
VACANT

gun to head who u put in vacant

Not you

i don't care who it is. just give me a name enchant.
I know u like to not be helpful when u roll town but give me a little something so i can pretend ur helpful

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Enchant
Dave
Theta
Bella
Bingle
VACANT

gun to head who u put in vacant

Not you

i don't care who it is. just give me a name enchant.
I know u like to not be helpful when u roll town but give me a little something so i can pretend ur helpful

Quick, make an account called vacant and replace in

i don't think i can in good concious vote python today just because of this post

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if ur going to fuck me drew, i want dinner first

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btw, where's my report on the gob/enchant deep dive firebringer? i want it on my desk by tmrl morning

I actually have a reason i was going to post for why Enchant is town.
Its all meta but i think its good.

You see,

Enchant is a Zebra.
What do I mean by that?

Well maybe this video will help explain things:

tldr
Town!Enchant doesn't believe in 'society", he doesn't care about helping the game or working together with players. He is just here to do his own thing. Now Scum!Enchant is more likely to pretend to work with others and sort the game but that is his survival tactic. i seen absence of enchant pretending to help the game out. Therefore this is Zebra!Enchant!Town

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drew that was me explaining town enchant meta

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wow that's a wild assessment of enchant, pretty different from how i remembered his town/scum games are like ngl

Really?

This is exactly how i have thought of Enchant for awhile.

I remember when me/drew were scum in Demon Slayer
I told the scum team over and over and over again, that you can't manipulate enchant to do what you want. Enchant doesn't care or listen to anyone else. He does his own thing.
You can't argue with him, reason, beg, or even threaten. He doesn't believe in the collective working together method.

Thats why the Zebra thing makes the most sense to me. Zebras don't believe in 'society' and Enchant doesn't believe in a collective town working together to solve the game.

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drew that was me explaining town enchant meta

But you seem keen on explaining why people are town.


So....do me next

I want the whiskey first

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I think u like to disagree with me sometimes for fun drew

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Very little but I just wanted to share that video because I was watching it earlier today and i was like "ohh you know who this reminds me of?" and that made think of enchant.

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I think u like to disagree with me sometimes for fun drew

Well, yes

But, I think your take on enchant is misguided at the very least

(also last time I disagreed with you.....you were scum......when I said FL could be scum......as you tried to pocket him)

Are we going back and forth on my alignment again because im kind of exhausted with having to talk about ur paranoia

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i mean enchant has a scumread on me. Maybe ask him about that.
I kind of believe he does have a scumread on me.

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What back and forth?

U been going back and forth on my alignment since u joined the game my dude

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i mean enchant has a scumread on me. Maybe ask him about that.
I kind of believe he does have a scumread on me.

well the fact that i didnt even know he has a scumread on u should be telling

he is voting me, been saying i am mafia (with jokes mixed in) and says wouldn't put me in any block with players he thinks are town.

Are u reading his posts because its downright stated and implied in multiple places my friend

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This is why i say u should ask him about the read.
The reason I don't ask is because I don't think enchant will give me an answer that will help my read of him at all lol

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Are you a Zebra?

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wait a second none of enchants list has an anime avatar

Holy shit.
Enchant wants to vote out the anime avatars instead.

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is Bingle avatar considered anime tho

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I went through Enchant voting history:

Furtive, Black/Drew, John/Bingle, Me

FMPOV Enchant has not voted a single scum all game lol

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I went through Enchant voting history:

Furtive, Black/Drew, John/Bingle, Me

FMPOV Enchant has not voted a single scum all game lol

VOTE: Titus

Good work

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Enchant what changed ur mind on Bingle slot being possible scum

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Enchant what changed ur mind on Bingle slot being possible scum

probably mafia won't jump on buddy like that

CONCLUSIVE PROOF THAT ENCHANT IS SORTING

I FOUND IT EVERYONE

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Shut up let me have this win

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Did you think Naerys was town because I was voting her

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hello lovely people
i love you all

mostly enchant though

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Here is your Scum PT:
1. ssbm_Kyouko aka Titus aka Run away vandal
2. DragonEater70 aka The Queens Pet
3. Naerys aka Lurking in the Darkness to Escape the Mod Prods
4. Firebringer aka the Scum King won the election due to a clerical error.

im very proud of this post in hindsight

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well im always scum so thats 3/4; if alisae can retroactively update DE to scum. That would be pretty sweet

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I probably got dragoneater wrong because his nickname was really weak

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@RCEnigam why Theta today?

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for all the reasons to townread me, that has got to be the weakest

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@RCEnigma the last time I was in a game with scum!theta (not that long ago) they lock towned me pretty early and just played the game of agreeing with me most of the game or w/e. It was heavy pocket central. I kind of ignored theta because role related reasons and seemed reasonable.

In hindsight that reasonableness was scummy. The focus on mech was also scummy. Theta is doing neither here. And I don't see where Theta is making moves besides the fact has no confident reads and is not pushing anything

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i am kind of surprised that Theta didn't push Naerys more? I mean maybe not cause Theta seems kind of...in different mental state than me. But Naerys played this pretty much exactly how Theta scum mate, Skygazer, played this game when confronted about effort/etc.

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drew and yessiree obviously the last two mafia

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GIVE ME 7 VOTES. I SAY ENCHANT GETS ONE VOTE FROM ME

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drew and yessiree obviously the last two mafia

you forgot to add urself, we are the last three mafia

unfortunately this game only has 2 more mafia left.
I am just always mafia so i guess ur correct

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naah we can end the day
VOTE: RCEnigma

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Thats E-1

Will Enchant not hammer again.

Find out next time on Dragon Ball Z

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i have alisae on speed dial in case we get a flip so i can find out what this is turns out to be.

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What kind of update is that, I should be number 4.

I call voting shenanigans

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VOTE: RCE

Do you have some kind of detection mechanism for hearing that someone is in hammer range

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thats three layers of creepy

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looks like alisae is too busy playing an mmo to tell flip. Probably won't get this within a few hours. I am going to go watch anime.

cya all tomorrow

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are u going for most unlikeable player in this game or something

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Nah i already won this title

no ur the lovable anti town player

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no he is a zebra

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picture of enchant see below

Spoiler: enchant

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I try my best to bring u the best urls u ever seen

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ngl ari not being here really kills my motivation

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ill never forgive the scum who submitted ari as a kill
she took my sanity with her.

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I want bingle to solve this game for me.

Since he just bragged about his 1/1 shit yesterday

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So... The "We should all pick 6 names and blindly elim until everyone else is gone" is a shitty gameplan, because those six names will slowly lose relevance as time goes on. I feel fine with FB, Bella, uP towncore. I'm very much thinking uP town at the moment. I feel like Drew is town, but I should probably put more effort into actually nailing that read to a wall. Off to grab food, back later.

Why you so certain on Python town here.
The last thing ari did was focus on Python.

I can see many worlds here where python is scum.

We can argue that ari death isn't because she was right with her reads or w/e. I mean I think its safe to assume lion share of reason is she was pretty unanimously agreed not scum yesterday

But im not ready to just townpile python and call it a day

[Firebringer]

Actually that brings up a good point: What if DE was shot to deny FB their check while also shooting someone townie

interesting point but my counter is why does Theta!scum admit to cop hunting Dragoneater in the first place and say was obvious scum.

Like i guess in a world where theta thinks its so obvious to point out it isn't suspicious to say. But if the plan is like u say of kill my check deny me having a clear, wouldn't it just be better to kill me instead. I guess Theta been on track of calling me scum all game though so maybe hte idea is to misyeet me and cc cop if thought was cop? Idk sounds a bit hair brained the more i think about it.

If u find the cop u just kill it, and its weird for scum!Theta to be the only one in this game to go "yo, it was so obvious that DE was cop" when everyone here disagrees with that perspective.

[Firebringer]

I am rethinking theta a bit.

This 180 on me is not making sense given everything this game.
how can u be so paranoid of me and then go ohh wait that kill yep not paranoid anymore.

Yeah that feels a little bullshit

[Firebringer]

for reference theta still thought i was possible scum yesterday given my interactions with Naerys.

Now u tell me "yeah fire never makes that kill"
This smells like horseshit.
I am starting to doubt u had a genuine paranoia over me at all.

@Theta I want to audit ur read. U say u been reading my posts. I don't buy it.
How is it that Aristeia kill makes the least sense for scum me to do over EVERYTHING ELSE

[Firebringer]

Don’t think I’m on the Ari bad train anymore VOTE: Theta

If you want a legit case…can do, I’m 2 for 2 anyway.

Out of the likely lim routes theta is the slot I feel most comfortable flipping scum / would be harder to sort in a do or die scenario.

What I had against theta yesterday was soft stancing and the loop of showiness compared to action. By that I mean statements like XYZ is interesting I should look into that. Or telling thread they are going to iso dive and spew their thoughts.

Personally I do this kind of thing as scum, some games are just rough to get a hold on to. So the hope is someone is interested in what you’re throwing out and there goes your hook.

And in general I just don’t have a general idea of where Thera has stood at any point in this game. That might be me glazing over their posts so I’ll do the diligence at some point.

Unless I’m the lim.

[Firebringer]

cause a lot of your posting regarding you and ari being paired felt genuine

and also i have kinda given up on convincing anyone else you are scum after seeing nearly everyone else put you in their town list so i might as well just hope i am wrong on that read at this point

1) You never tried to convince anyone i was scum. Ever.
I was the one asking you to try to push me and work to make a case, you said it was too much effort.


2) Are you saying you are paranoid of me still? Cause previous post implies that wasn't the case. Clarify here. Where and when your stances changed. Is it, I can't elim firebringer so I might as well make up reasons he is town / not be worried. Or you think I sounded paired with Ari


3) Were you even scumreading Ari at all? This one is a note for myself. I don't remember you ever saying we were a team.

[Firebringer]

ari
bingle
drew
bella
usespython

trying to figure out who the sixth should be
dave or enchant
realistically i should just say firebringer but paranoia remains

Well you townbinned Ari here
But the paranoia remains. If you were scumreading me based on me and ari super sound like a pair. Doesn't make sense that if u townbinned ari that im scum unless you had other reasons to be paranoid.

[Firebringer]

i still think naerys/lemon are only scum if yess is scum

What happend to this.

[Firebringer]

Now i can't townread firebringer because that would be a bit suspicious

You better not

[Firebringer]

Ur a bad zebra

[Firebringer]

Yet to vote a scum all game Enchant

[Firebringer]

Ohh wait you voted TItus yesterday mb

[Firebringer]

When you going to go in and raise your skill level then

[Firebringer]

You need to take lessons from Python on being funny then

[Firebringer]

Doesn't sound like your committed to your life goals then!

[Firebringer]

Enchant, I love you buddy. Never change.

[Firebringer]

I need python to come in here and rewrite Enchant joke post

[Firebringer]

if yessiree hammers guranteed scum
if enchant hammers guranteed town
Proven facts

[Firebringer]

tbf yessiree
u only hammered once.

we need more samples to prove this hypothesis

[Firebringer]

Ur a pigeon.

Gottem

[Firebringer]

enchant do u wanna vote dave

no

dave scum got it

you can't just reverse all my reads

YOU ADMIT YOU HAVE READS

[Firebringer]

ur so god damn scummy drew

[Firebringer]

this chat gonna get restricted to +18 shortly it seems

[Firebringer]

drew if i start really saying ur scum will u put forward some solving for me

[Firebringer]

drew if i start really saying ur scum will u put forward some solving for me

How about you ask enchant the same question first?

u want me to ask the zebra a pointless question

[Firebringer]

Let's play more hilarious game called "call enchant conftown or get in stupid debate"

I’m in. What do you think is the most delicious bar soap? I’d prefer to argue Dove, but I can pick another if you want to argue Dove.

Tide

[Firebringer]

i kind of want to eliminate theta but i don't have energy to make a case

[Firebringer]

what even is the vote count

[Firebringer]

V OTECOUNT 5.1
E LIMINATION V OTES
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES
yessiree (3)	Bingle, Doctor Drew, Theta Alpine
NOT VOTING: davesaz, Bellaphant, Enchant Firebringer, yessiree, usesPython
With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to flip! Deadline: (expired on 2024-02-06 05:47:54)
Notes:

can i get updated vc mod

VOTE: Theta Alpine

[Firebringer]

Guess what wagon i will hammer.

Both?

[Firebringer]

r u a zebra whisperer

[Firebringer]

if true doesn't that just increase the odds that Theta is scum.

isn't this game opposite of enchant reads wins the game

[Firebringer]

id observe from great distance.
zebra are known to bite

[Firebringer]

The TR for nothing gang is a club I can't ever be a part of, and being outside the clique has been a personal trigger for going on 50 years.

why would you ever want to be part of this

[Firebringer]

What we really need to do is pretend nothing ever happened this game and restart RVS

okay.


hi everyone, this is my first game of mafia.
pls don't hurt me just because i got a red pm.
thx

[Firebringer]

i think davesaz might flip town but hey maybe a red flip on this would rejuvenate me to solve for final scum tomorrow

VOTE: davesaz

[Firebringer]

Everyday is ur birthday Drew

[Firebringer]

happy birthday drew

Also theta alpine remembers

[Firebringer]

YOU NEVER SAID HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ME

and don't use the tired execuse that the birthday I put up on mafiascum isn't my real birthday, u should know my birthday regardless if some site tells u the wrong one!

[Firebringer]

ohh i just double checked apparently birthday is optional and i just never filled it in...
normally i just lie on every online site about my birthday just so i can get random happy birthday messages throughout the year and tell people that they shouldn't trust some random form i filled out.

[Firebringer]

ohh i just double checked apparently birthday is optional and i just never filled it in...
normally i just lie on every online site about my birthday just so i can get random happy birthday messages throughout the year and tell people that they shouldn't trust some random form i filled out.

Happy birthday

Thanks, can't believe you remembered

[Firebringer]

prodding bellaphant

did i not predict that bellaphant was going to be next to drop or what

[Firebringer]

taking on bets on the next replacement

100 on bella

[Firebringer]

With no one here wanting to reread or case or really do anything can we just start blasting until someone actually gets the motivation to play?

OR

HERE IS A THOUGHT

Lets petition alisae to adjust the day/night cycle to be 72/24 blitz style.
This forces us to high effort days instead of waiting around.

@I humbly request the ability for player vote to adjust the game deadlines. If we get majority we should be able to adjust these times. I think you would appreciate this as well.

[Firebringer]

That last post was at you @Alisae

[Firebringer]

this is one of those things i feel i should townread u on dave.
I feel like even scum you should be able ot read the room on nobody wants to eliminate bella.
And ur arguments for why she is scum is just her voting pattern and i think all of her votes in context make her town.

So like make a better argument for why her votes are scummy or find her partner because no one is convinced to just blindly kill her even with this game apathy

[Firebringer]

no one's doing that either mr zen master

how about signing my petition with the mod.

[Firebringer]

Its much easier to get people to agree on someone to kill if the deadline is locked in. This is why we been slugging along because everyone looks at the deadline timer and puts this game off.

If we all see that we have only 72 hours left then the urgency to find consensus eliminates becomes greater and solving/discussion intensifies.

[Firebringer]

i want ot hurry up and end this game.
If we just random blast today, and flip on town. Maybe even scum flip
I wager with who we have in this game we are going to end up with same problem as today of apathy.