New Designer Mafia (Victor(s) are crowned)

[Fashion Llama]

Day number two, only one more dead. Good, right?

danakillsu - Forgetfull Freddy - Shot Night One

With 19 alive it takes 10 to lynch.
Deadline for Day Two is March 21st, 10PM PST

[Amrun]

Did anyone submit Forgetful Freddy? I can't even begin to imagine what that role did.

[DemonHybrid]

Vote: ender241

This suspicion has not gone away.

[Olinea]

Also, is there no cops in this game? Is that what the post four means from the mod?

A standard cop, not unless there are multiple scumteams. I sent in a role cop, though.

Warning flares errywhere in here. Didn't like the "multiple scumteams" speculation the first time I saw it and the "Mafia C" strongly indicates SC's flip will likely be a Mafia B or Mafia C.

Vote: StrangerCoug

I also Yosarianized Tasky. Find somebody else to focus on.

[Zajnet]

Did anyone submit Forgetful Freddy? I can't even begin to imagine what that role did.

I didn't.

I need to reread and ponder for a bit.

I'm kind of in the same position as Olinea here.

FoS: SC

[Xalxe]

Well...blah, I don't even know what conclusions to draw. I concur with the SC suspicions, but I need me some rereads.

Also, note my sig please.

[Nocmen]

Vote: ender241

This suspicion has not gone away.

Why the suspicion on ender?

Also, Olinea: That is an interesting thing to point out, but I want to hear more based on what SC submitted if SC sent in Furc's role.

[Internet Stranger]

Oh wow. I totally didn't even notice that one. Looks like a scumslip to me.

FOS on Xalxe for trying to stall on a scumslip lynch.
Apparently there was a connection between Coug and Furcolow too.

FOS: Xalxe
Vote: StrangerCoug[\b]

[DeathNote]

Why is SC under suspicion just for sending in a role that flipped scum?

[Xalxe]

SC is under suspicion for suggesting multiple scumteams that now appears to be a possibility.

[Amrun]

If there are multiple scum teams, there has to have been some sort of successful roleblock or doctor protect.

Is it standard to have multiple scum teams in a game this size? I really don't know.

Perhaps Furcolow's team is just called Mafia C to fuck with our heads.

[Xalxe]

I wouldn't be surprised by two...but the C throws me off.

[DeathNote]

Assuming A, B, C

Then that would mean two or three mafia members per team.

It also means that an SK or third party is unlikely. I suppose we will figure it out once we lynch more mafia.

Vote: Xalxe

[ender241]

VOTE: Xalxe Assuming he's scum, he's making it seem like it is not true that there is one making us think there's less scum to take out.

[Xalxe]

ender, what? I don't understand your reasoning.

[ender241]

I'm saying that your quite scum like, and because of that your trying to get people thinking there are less scum to deal with making you more likely to be scum.

[Zajnet]

I'm saying that your quite scum like, and because of that your trying to get people thinking there are less scum to deal with making you more likely to be scum.

I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

[Olinea]

That is an interesting thing to point out, but I want to hear more based on what SC submitted if SC sent in Furc's role.

I think you missed the point of it. I don't care about sending in a Rolecop. His speculation of multiple scumteams is bizarre at best. Inherently I'd assume

one

scumteam, maybe an SK. But the speculation over multiple scumteams was largely unprompted given the circumstances so early in the game. It reeks of innate knowledge that there are more scumteams; I don't think many town players would have that kind of suspicion,

especially

not on Day 1.

Also, I think ender's point is that Xalxe's trying to downplay the potential numbers of scum. If there are 8 scum in the game, and Xalxe pushes the idea that there's, let's say, 6 scum, then we don't start getting cautious until it's much too late.

[Xalxe]

Okay, if that's his point, he's misinterpreting. What I'm saying is that in a game of 23 players, 3 scumteams is unlikely for balance reasons.

[Internet Stranger]

So XalxeScum, tell me this: Why wont you vote for CougScum?

Notice that CougScum said

MULTIPLE

Scumteams. Not

TWO

. He used the word

MULTIPLE

. So why are you stalling? Clearly the topic is "StrangerCoug, which scumteam is he on?" now, why are you being deliberate in your attempts to avoid the subject?

Why XalxeScum, WHY?

2FOS: Xalxe

[DemonHybrid]

@Nocmen:

However, right now, I'm going to

Vote: ender

. Not due to his role or his claim, but because of this post:

FOS:Xalxe

Then it's back to you after a reread mate, there's something i disliked:
Earlier in the thread you asked for top 3 town and top 3 scum, this gives information to the scum and helps them out in choosing the right nightkills.
If i find more reasons i'll be sure to vote you.

He seems to be looking for justification to vote Xalxe before he actually does it. He posts this quite randomly after Xalxe tells him to start scumhunting. Goes straight from NO SUSPECTS to suspecting Xalxe, apparently after an ISO. Took him 15 minutes to do this. I'm not buying it.

Xalxe reads townish to me. While I agreed with zoraster before on Xalxe's habit of posting statistics over scumhunting, he's actually improved on his scumhunting.

Then there's Olinea vs. Tasky. While I feel Olinea is town now that this Post Bomber business has been solved, I have not a clue how I feel about Tasky. Obviously I feel like his read is wrong, but is it genuine? Still trying to figure that out.

This in a nutshell. It hasn't changed.

[Fishythefish]

VOTE: Xalxe

I liked this as a lynch until all the scummy people jumped on after me. With a flip of "Mafia C", this no longer troubles me. Today Xalxe seems to be trying to egg on the SC suspicion without actually doing anything.

[StrangerCoug]

Also, is there no cops in this game? Is that what the post four means from the mod?

A standard cop, not unless there are multiple scumteams. I sent in a role cop, though.

Warning flares errywhere in here. Didn't like the "multiple scumteams" speculation the first time I saw it and the "Mafia C" strongly indicates SC's flip will likely be a Mafia B or Mafia C.

Vote: StrangerCoug

I feel I made a reasonable deduction here. A standard cop only makes sense in a multiball because roles have to work for both town and scum, and I don't see how my post indicates that I took the possibility very seriously.

VOTE: Xalxe Assuming he's scum, he's making it seem like it is not true that there is one making us think there's less scum to take out.

"Assuming he's scum"? You clarify the rest, but this part of the post is still weird. Why are you softening it?

VOTE: ender241

[zoraster]

I think I'd push Xalxe, but as I'm about to go V/LA for a few days, I don't feel like voting him right now would be a wise idea.

Mod: I am V/LA from now until March 5th

[Xalxe]

VOTE: Xalxe Assuming he's scum, he's making it seem like it is not true that there is one making us think there's less scum to take out.

"Assuming he's scum"? You clarify the rest, but this part of the post is still weird. Why are you softening it?

VOTE: ender241

Shh, he's trying to hide from my town flip.