Open 549 (C9++): Logic Conundrum (Game Over)

Baezu · Post Post #675 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:30 am

Why is NS still going unchecked? How can we let him slide by for so long?

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #676 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2014 6:52 am

Baezu
Can you explain what you mean in your last post? Trying to understand where you are coming from.

Nobody Special · Post Post #677 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:09 am

In post 675, Baezu wrote:Why is NS still going unchecked? How can we let him slide by for so long?

What exactly do you mean? I'm confused.

Also, I haven't had the time to go back and look at aptil, but the mere fact that he's had to be prodded pretty much seals it for me. He's a lot more active as town, if I remember correctly.

I'm surprised fuzzy hasn't

bussed

voted for aptil, but I guess they're probably looking for the towncred with the hammer.

Vote: aptil

That's L-1.

Bulbazak · Post Post #678 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:24 am

In post 677, Nobody Special wrote: Also, I haven't had the time to go back and look at aptil, but the mere fact that he's had to be prodded pretty much seals it for me. He's a lot more active as town, if I remember correctly.

Activity is not alignment indicative. I would not be surprised if this is a bus.

neil1113 · Post Post #679 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:33 am

I said I was okay with voting for Aptil, but Fuzzy is another one of my strong reads. Scum is within Aptil, Fuzzy, and ProHawk. I'd guess 2 out of those 3 are scum. It looks like Aptil is the consensus for today, and seeing as how everyone seems to have buddied me today, I would assume I'm dying tonight. So tomorrow, focus on Fuzzy or ProHawk, and don't let Pro ride the lurking status.

VOTE: Aptil

I've kind of had enough of this day, I'm thinking an ending of the day phase and a fresh night phase will at least give people another chance next day phase to post and "catch up." Hopefully next Day Phase, it'll be active...

neil1113 · Post Post #680 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2014 9:33 am

In post 679, neil1113 wrote:I said I was okay with voting for Aptil, but Fuzzy is another one of my strong reads. Scum is within Aptil, Fuzzy, and ProHawk. I'd guess 2 out of those 3 are scum. It looks like Aptil is the consensus for today, and seeing as how everyone seems to have buddied me today, I would assume I'm dying tonight. So tomorrow, focus on Fuzzy or ProHawk, and don't let Pro ride the lurking status.

VOTE: Aptil

I've kind of had enough of this day, I'm thinking an ending of the day phase and a fresh night phase will at least give people another chance next day phase to post and "catch up." Hopefully next Day Phase, it'll be active...

Ahem, that should be:

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aptil

Baezu · Post Post #681 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:05 am

Bulb, anyone we should lynch tomorrow should you die tonight?

Bulbazak · Post Post #682 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:38 am

In post 681, Baezu wrote:Bulb, anyone we should lynch tomorrow should you die tonight?

It depends on Aptil's flip. If she's scum, I'd definitely look at NS. If she's town, you should be careful and take things slow, because you're in Lylo. It would definitely be between ProHawk, NS, and Neil in that case.

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #683 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2014 10:47 am

Im guessing that if Aptil flips scum than I will be the main lynch target tommorow... saying that I hope Aptil flips scum. One less scum means we are one step closer to winning. Im not scum so I will deal the aftermath if Aptil flips scum.

neil1113 · Post Post #684 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:13 am

In post 683, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Im guessing that if Aptil flips scum than I will be the main lynch target tommorow... saying that I hope Aptil flips scum. One less scum means we are one step closer to winning. Im not scum so I will deal the aftermath if Aptil flips scum.

I wouldn't say that if Aptil flips scum you will be the main lynch target. That may slightly contribute to your scum read, but for me and for most I think, you're not scum based on Aptil, but rather because you've been scummy.

In post 682, Bulbazak wrote:It depends on Aptil's flip. If she's scum, I'd definitely look at NS. If she's town, you should be careful and take things slow, because you're in Lylo. It would definitely be between
ProHawk, NS, and Neil in that case.

Why is that? Why those three? And why not Fuzzy?

Humble Poirot · Post Post #685 (ISO) » Tue Apr 08, 2014 11:14 am

Those in danger of falling prey to paradoxes #23:

aptil (4): Baezu, Bulbazak, Nobody_Special, neil1113

Not Voting (3): TheFuzzyLogic99, aptil, ProHawk

aptil has been lynched, he was a Mafia Godfather

With 7 Alive it took 4 to lynch.

Night (48 hs) ends in (expired on 2014-04-10 19:30:59) (2014-04-10)

Humble Poirot · Post Post #686 (ISO) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:45 am

Day 5 start.

...

am I dreaming or am I awake. Is hope possible?

Can everything be just a cruel lie? Even this? Or am I actually close to being happy? free?

Guess I'll have to fight it out. Like I've always done...

Baezu has been killed, he was a Doctor

Day 5 has started.

With 5 Alive it takes 3 to lynch.

Deadline (2 weeks) ends in (expired on 2014-04-24 23:59:59) (2014-04-24)

ProHawk · Post Post #687 (ISO) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:18 am

Hrmmm, I think Neil is scum.

VOTE: Neil

neil1113 · Post Post #688 (ISO) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:24 pm

In post 677, Nobody Special wrote:Also, I haven't had the time to go back and look at aptil, but
the mere fact that he's had to be prodded
pretty much seals it for me. He's a lot more active as town, if I remember correctly.

Seeing this and realizing if Aptil was town, putting us at Lylo with the only reason for the lynch because of being inactive.... that's the scummiest buss I have ever seen. I'm definitely looking forward to your lynch.

In post 684, neil1113 wrote:Why is that? Why those three? And why not Fuzzy?

I'd still like an answer to this Bulb, and I'd also like to know your new stance with Aptil flipping Godfather.

Also Fuzzy, I'd like to know your opinion on everything. You're definitely not out of the clear in my book. The only reason you're not top suspect is because the #1 suspect bussed like crazy with the worst reasoning I have seen in a Mafia game in quite some time, and the wifom idea that if Aptil was town, we'd be at lylo because of "inactiveness." I can't say if you'd be my second or third lynch, because ProHawk's last post was scummy as hell.

In post 687, ProHawk wrote:Hrmmm, I think Neil is scum.

VOTE: Neil

Lol.

VOTE: Nobody Special

I think we have 1 final scum left, and it's between NS, Fuzzy, and ProHawk. I'm more willing based on the VCA, to lean toward Nobody Special.

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #689 (ISO) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:15 pm

I not sure... my reads are not good of late....

ProHawk
why do you think Neil is scum....

Nobody
In 677 it seems the only reason for voting for Aptil was he was prodded. . You say that the Aptil wagon snuck up on you and than the next post you are voting for him. i looked at your Iso and i saw nothing to explain your vote except for your 677. Please explain your reason for the Aptil vote. Can you go into details about your vote on Aptil.

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #690 (ISO) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:19 pm

Neil
Do you think there is a link between Aptil and Nobody or is your vote based on the idea that Nobody was bussing Aptil in post 677?

neil1113 · Post Post #691 (ISO) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 1:28 pm

In post 690, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Neil
Do you think there is a link between Aptil and Nobody or is your vote based on the idea that Nobody was bussing Aptil in post 677?

I already explained my vote on him. His post screams bussing. Asking for him to clarify his vote isn't going to do anything because in his very same post, he admitted it snuck up on him and he didn't know anything other than what he said (which was the inactive part.)

TheFuzzylogic99 · Post Post #692 (ISO) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 2:41 pm

Okay.....

still it wont hurt to hear what he has to say. Also I am playing my style.... im not going to change that just bc one person think I should.

Bulbazak · Post Post #693 (ISO) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:38 pm

In post 688, neil1113 wrote:
In post 684, neil1113 wrote:Why is that? Why those three? And why not Fuzzy?
I'd still like an answer to this Bulb

Well seeing as how Aptil flipped scum and not town, I'm not sure how this is relevant anymore. You were on the list because of paranoia and that hammer. ProHawk was due to some gut vibes. I didn't think he was scum with Aptil, because he was intent on lynching him, and I didn't think the scum team was looking to bus will nilly. I'll explain NS further down. As for Fuzzy, the more he's posted, the more I get the sense that he's simply lynch bait, like Baezu. I'm really not seeing any scum intent or motivation from his posts. I really get the sense that he's trying to figure things out.

In post 688, neil1113 wrote: I'd also like to know your new stance with Aptil flipping Godfather.

Not much has changed. I still think NS is most likely to flip scum. Aptil being GF means absolutely nothing, as with no cop, he was essentially a glorified goon.

As for NS, several of his posts and stances have bothered me. He seems to go with the flow instead of hunting for scum. You pointed out the bus on Aptil, but I think far more damning is his approach to Baezu on d3. I was going on about how I thought Baezu had slipped the setup, and how she was heavy distancing from Beli for town cred. NS never questioned it. In fact, he almost seemed to be buddying me. I thought it was a strange reaction at the time, but I was too caught up in my Baezu/Beli tunnel to really put much thought into it.

Bulbazak · Post Post #694 (ISO) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:37 pm

@Mod: I will have limited access until Thursday, April 17. I will be out of town and may not have as much computer access as I do now. I'll try to check in at least once a day if I'm able.

Nobody Special · Post Post #695 (ISO) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:05 pm

In post 688, neil1113 wrote: Seeing this and realizing if Aptil was town, putting us at Lylo

In post 688, neil1113 wrote:I think we have 1 final scum left

One of these things is not like the other one! One of these things doesn't belong! (Best results if imagined being sung by Big Bird.)

Explain yourself?

Nobody Special · Post Post #696 (ISO) » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:05 pm

In post 688, neil1113 wrote:
In post 677, Nobody Special wrote:Also, I haven't had the time to go back and look at aptil, but
the mere fact that he's had to be prodded
pretty much seals it for me. He's a lot more active as town, if I remember correctly.
Seeing this and realizing if Aptil was town, putting us at Lylo
with the only reason for the lynch
because of being inactive.... that's the scummiest buss I have ever seen. I'm definitely looking forward to your lynch.

Okay, yes, my only reason for voting at that point was due to the inactivity, but you have to realize, I've played with aptil a

bunch

and he's pretty solid in his alignment-play: he's very active as town, and very lurky as scum. And it's not like I hammered for a poor reason and it was a mislynch, no -- I hammered scum! (That's pretty rare for me, btw, so I'm rather pleased with myself at the moment.)

In post 689, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote: Nobody
In 677 it seems the only reason for voting for Aptil was he was prodded. . You say that the Aptil wagon snuck up on you and than the next post you are voting for him. i looked at your Iso and i saw nothing to explain your vote except for your 677. Please explain your reason for the Aptil vote. Can you go into details about your vote on Aptil.

See my explanation to neil's identical question, just above this quote.

neil1113 · Post Post #697 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:57 am

In post 695, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 688, neil1113 wrote: Seeing this and realizing if Aptil was town, putting us at Lylo

In post 688, neil1113 wrote:I think we have 1 final scum left
One of these things is not like the other one! One of these things doesn't belong! (Best results if imagined being sung by Big Bird.)

Explain yourself?

Sure, in post above, town is lynch, that equals 2 scum left. Town dies at night, that leaves us in LyLo.

In post below, scum is lynched. That equals 1 scum left. Town dies at night, and we're okay because we lynched scum.

Was that really hard to understand?

ProHawk · Post Post #698 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:50 am

In post 689, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote: ProHawk
why do you think Neil is scum....

His insistence that BJC was scum and scum alone was OTT.

I am fairly certain scum did bus Aptil, but not until it was clear he would most assuredly be lynched from apathy (see Neil's attitude toward voting April).

In post 679, neil1113 wrote:I would assume I'm dying tonight. So tomorrow, focus on Fuzzy or ProHawk, and don't let Pro ride the lurking status.

This is pretty fake, considering there really was no reason he was going to die.

ProHawk · Post Post #699 (ISO) » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:58 am

In post 59, aptil wrote:
In post 52, Nobody Special wrote:I should post.

Didn't I post earlier?
VOTE: Nobody Special- I do not like this entrance at all .

Thoughts on this?