A Song of Ice and Fire UPick - Game Over

[Frozen Angel]

ok these two might fix in next 20 years.

anything else?

[Frozen Angel]

I read all those things carefully and I'm really willed to change myself (to not be a freak in my own way of wording it) but it just can't happen with my current state. I know my emotional approach adds some noise to game. and yeah thats really hard for everyone else to even read my posts. but its just I'm not doing this on purpose.

and I don't do ATE as scum becuase I'm scum. Its just being me all the time.and I hate it when people just ignore me for that. I give them the right but I hate it!

my personality is like the worst personality anyone could have. even my husband can't read my emotions. I'm like a deep see full of emotions raging whit the first wind reaching it.

[T S O]

Try to rule town with a dictatorial iron fist. That's generally my towngame.

[Cerberus v666]

ok these two might fix in next 20 years.

anything else?

Lol, I mean, i gave you a pretty simple way to fix the driving people away/giving a lot of noise out thing. Pretty sure that is 99% of the problem you have with getting people to follow your lead.

I mean, just as an example, look at mollie. She isn't a case sort of person. She plays in an emotional way, but because she (usually) doesn't abuse people or drive them away, they're willing to fall in line and follow her lead. She has the advantage of a history of success at reading people well, but the theory is still sound. You don't NEED to express your cases well if the town WANTS to follow you. It's only if you're someone like me, who doesn't give a fuck what the town thinks about him generally and actively works to do scummy shit as town and thus expects to not be trusted, then you DO need to lay things out in a way everyone else can follow.

pedit: I don't expect you to change, and you shouldn't want to change yourself. I'm seriously just suggesting before you press the submit button, you take a breather, and then reread what you said and pretend you're saying it to you. If it's something that would upset YOU, knowing how sensitive you are, then change it and don't say it to someone else unless you mean to.

[Moonlight]

@FA

I'll tell you what I keep telling myself:

Don't give up. If you're bad, that's okay, you can get better. Find out what you're good at and rely on it. Find out what you're bad at and work on it. And have fun.

Here's an e-hug.

[Drixx]

While we're giving out advice: the best advice I've ever seen gathered together in one place:

[SirCakez]

Radja, tell the classroom where the bad Wisdom touched you.

I died XD

Also
This post was hilarious. Kudos to Shiro for making me laugh in the middle of class.

[Frozen Angel]

and thats when I fail again!

becuase I can't rule

I can't decide. the ability of taking decisions is something I lack. I go shopping and I end up staring at stuff. when a student ask me that if I have the free time to learn them I can't say no even if thats canceling my own time for studying. Its like I'm always relied to others to take the decisions for me.

pedit : I read your way cerb. and I did read drixx notes in saga. I know its hard to be understood but I can't stop talking when I have a feeling that I need to say. the fact the game is online and it needed to be typed is helping it . and maybe thats why I have this little success at this point.

its just so damn hard to don't press that damned button. If I feel the need to say something its already out of my mouth. I even shout some of my posts when I'm typing them , very load. once my neighbour asked me whats going on in here ...

I know mollie. I saw her game. she is not me. I respect she and her game. I know how she oprates is very similar with how I'm playing but its just the difference : I am a control freak. I'm a psychopath, and a mental patient. and she isn't

I suggested that I like her to be my mentor in saga. and when I said that I wasn't joking. but its just not happening.

[Frozen Angel]

@FA

I'll tell you what I keep telling myself:

Don't give up. If you're bad, that's okay, you can get better. Find out what you're good at and rely on it. Find out what you're bad at and work on it. And have fun.

Here's an e-hug.

thx

I can tell you some of my strengths in game :

1 - I have a very accurate way to read people, I just misread like 3 or 4 times in my whole mafia career which contains more than 30 games)
2 - I'm very good at detecting interactions. examples are ready
3 - I'm so damn manipulative as scum. multiple people said that already
4 - I know logic and I understand logical fallacies.

my weaknesses :

so many stupid things becuase I'm emotional , sensitive and over reactionary
+ I can't have fun ever. this is like the worst part.

and thats not just about mafia. basically I'm not enjoying my existence! but whatever!

[Frozen Angel]

oh god! why it feels so good to talk about yourself.

lol

[Frozen Angel]

I guess the best way for that is to use a hydra partner as shield. they can make the case more logical and stuff

and they can take all the incoming attacks so I can freely and out of being over reactionary and stuff share my reads. thats why my hydra results are my only winning results and they all are so awesome and accurate.

at least this is what I believe is happening.

[Cerberus v666]

Can someone make a chrome extension for FA and our other emotional players that pretends to make the post, but really doesn't and prompts them like an hour later asking if they still want to send it? ^^

[toolenduso]

And I'd like to say, even though TWIE ended up being the perpetual bussing target, that I do believe he helped us win. I think part of the reason he wasn't lynched during the like three or four days Spiff and I were trying to lynch him is because he simply didn't do anything that people could latch onto.

And I enjoyed playing with you while you were alive, Kuroi! I think I might have said something about the jokes but you did make me laugh once or twice and that's always nice in a game where things can get dramatic real fast.

[Moonlight]

I actually felt a bit sad when Kuroi died. Considering our alignments, that should say something!

[RadiantCowbells]

Spiff was the only person I actually wanted to lynch.

But that GS inno prevented me from getting traction.

Sighhh.

[Spiffeh]

Noob

[Moonlight]

Night 2 Actions

Moonlight protects T S O. Result: Bus Driven - protects SilverWolf
TheWayItEnds jailkeeps Albert B. Rampage. Result: Successful
kelbris checks TSO. Result: Bus Driven - checks SilverWolf: No gun
randomidget shoots T S O. Result: Bus Driven - shoots SilverWolf, failed
toolenduso bus drives T S O and SilverWolf. Result: Successful
toolenduso shoots T S O. Result: Bus Driven - SilverWolf shot instead, successful
Wisdom commutes. Result: Successful
RadiantCowbells suicides. Result: Successful

Hang on.

Protect:

Once per game, you may choose someone to protect.

This person will be saved from any nightkills should they be targeted.

You will then protect this person every night until either you die or they die.

Why did randomidget's shot fail, but toolen's succeed? o_O

[toolenduso]

Maybe my shot resolved first? Either way, same result -- silver dies.

Also, fun fact: this thread has received nearly as many views as the mini normal queue.

[toolenduso]

Oh you were thinking you should have protected Silver? I mean, your protection was already used at that point on TSO. I'm guessing the result that you protected silver was a typo.

[toolenduso]

Oh wait wait I know what happened.

Your protect was on TSO from N1, and because of the seraph it extended to N2. But the protection had already resolved, meaning it wouldn't extend to whoever we drove TSO with -- the protection stayed on TSO no matter what.

So the typo in that post is saying that you protected silver. You didn't, you protected TSO -- and my shot on TSO would have failed if we hadn't driven him with silver.

Whether rando's shot succeeded or failed doesn't really matter because either way silver gets shot.

[Xtoxm]

its all your fualt xtoxm

you made the first vote in lylo remember

and a note for scum if you want to win the game just let FA reach the lylo! ez win I guess!

You say the shit you said to me on the final day I will always vote you. Even then if you had reacted to in a town way i'd have unvoted but instead you pushed me as confscum when a 3-way scum coordination was required with a dead encryptor. Even when the scummy pile on started happening you were so into your tunnel that you didn't reconsider. And you really had no excuse for scumreading me given my TSO interactions.

But yes, go ahead and blame the entire loss on me.

Town had 0% chance of navigating this lylo, and I just wanted it over with, I was 90% getting mislynched regardless of the possible scumteam composition, but if it had been FA/Shiro/TWIE I figured there was an outside chance.

Even at the end the only read I was confident in was ikaslot being town.

If ika cheated then that's pretty disgusting.

I think the setup was there or abouts balanced, just super super swingy.

Thanks for modding, Elyse.

[Moonlight]

Oh wait wait I know what happened.

Your protect was on TSO from N1, and because of the seraph it extended to N2. But the protection had already resolved, meaning it wouldn't extend to whoever we drove TSO with -- the protection stayed on TSO no matter what.

So the typo in that post is saying that you protected silver. You didn't, you protected TSO -- and my shot on TSO would have failed if we hadn't driven him with silver.

Whether rando's shot succeeded or failed doesn't really matter because either way silver gets shot.

I was considering this kind of scenario when I asked this:

2) If a Seraph Knight successfully applies protection to someone, would a roleblock still stop a protection in a

following

night? In other words, is the Seraph Knight considered to be applying protection every single night, or is the protection there for the rest of the game without the Seraph Knight being subject to night action resolution?

Elyse's response:

2. The Seraph Knight is still subject to night action resolution, so a roleblock would stop the protection.

made me think that a bus drive would still change my target. If a roleblock still affects it, why wouldn't a bus drive?

[Moonlight]

Whether this is mod error or me being daft, I do want to thank Elyse. Fun facts were a great touch and she kept up with this game despite the drama and the force-replace that came on D1.

[toolenduso]

Hm, somehow I missed that. Can't really answer for Elyse, but I can say that my understanding of the way seraph knight worked was that it's really an action on the night you target somebody, and that after that it's just kind of a static, passive thing. Like you've just made the player bulletproof until you die.

[Xtoxm]

Oh and forgot to say, congrats scum you played a strong game. Tool was very impressive.