Mini 1387: Mafia in Corteleona - Game Over

[Malakittens]

meant 696. My bad.

[Benmage]

You can argue that I could've tried and defended my "benmagetell case".... but I doubt people would've heard. Subjective here. But w/e.

I didn't see it as very viable mala.

[Benmage]

Bleh mod can you add a ']' to the top of this^.

Done ~ Mod

[Malakittens]

I have to read into your past games. I'm going to read it in a little bit.

I never said I didn't see Charter as scum.

[buldermar]

VOTE: charter

I know I'm not capable of analysing the actions as well as some of the more experienced players here, but I don't see the incentive for benmage to pull something like claiming a guilty on a rolecop partner on D2 as a gambit. I think a fakeclaim as town is much more plausible. In lights of this I especially dislike how charter is ignoring/pretending not to understand the points benmage is making. At this point I find it likely that both of benmage and Mala are town and will not vote either of them unless something new comes up.

[buldermar]

Also, I'm currently considering Evanjalin the most likely partner to charter, but I would still prefer lynching charter today.

[Demon Core]

You are basing so much on day one. There is zero info to go with and no flips. Day one reads are not always that great.

The other thing you have to ask yourself in situations such as this, is "who would I rather lose to?" I haven't played a good game, but if I was scum you could at least stomach losing to me. Benmage has played an atrocious game. I could never live it down if Benmage were to beat me.

I love how charter's not even trying to deny that he's scum at this point. Now he's just trying to convince us to hand him the game.

Come on charter.

[charter]

What do you want me to do, claim cop with a guilty on Benmage. Will that make you believe I'm town? Because you certainly don't listen to logic or scumhunting or have any common fucking sense.

[Evanjalin]

This is all too confusing.

I'll be less busy in 2-3 days time, I'll probably decide what I think then.

[Demon Core]

What do you want me to do, claim cop with a guilty on Benmage. Will that make you believe I'm town? Because you certainly don't listen to logic or scumhunting or have any common fucking sense.

Stop it. You and Benmage are both dicks for invoking this bad appeal to proficiency and I want this kind of rhetoric to stop. ^

[Malakittens]

Only problem what I didn't like in regards to Redtail's posts is that he even though he was questioning Benmage and found Benmage's reaction to pressure scummy he didn't put a vote down.

Redtail then did a post in regards to Charter. I find this as him defending Charter, but everyone thinks of different posts differently.

Redtail then does jump onto Charter with this post.
I find this incredibly confusing considering the fact he called out Conviction for his vote on Charter. So either Red is distancing his buddy early with an attack that looks like hunting, but it is also a safe place to put a vote as Charter was not in danger with one vote alone.


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Since Benmage and Buld both voted Charter and it takes 4 votes to lynch, I refuse to put him as L-1 right now because we still have 8 days to talk this out. Plus, I don't want to kick myself in the head if Evan turns out to be scum and quick lynches him after he's put at L-1.

[Demon Core]

Only problem what I didn't like in regards to Redtail's posts is that he even though he was questioning Benmage and found Benmage's reaction to pressure scummy he didn't put a vote down.

See, that's what I said.

Redtail then did a post in regards to Charter. I find this as him defending Charter, but everyone thinks of different posts differently.

Redtail then does jump onto Charter with this post.
I find this incredibly confusing considering the fact he called out Conviction for his vote on Charter. So either Red is distancing his buddy early with an attack that looks like hunting, but it is also a safe place to put a vote as Charter was not in danger with one vote alone.

Yes, good point. This is an extension of my hypothesis that scum cannot help but bus.

[charter]

What do you want me to do, claim cop with a guilty on Benmage. Will that make you believe I'm town? Because you certainly don't listen to logic or scumhunting or have any common fucking sense.

Stop it. You and Benmage are both dicks for invoking this bad appeal to proficiency and I want this kind of rhetoric to stop. ^

I'll stop when you vote Benmage, what a plan!

[Demon Core]

So, you'll only stop being an asshole when you get your way?

How mature...

[Malakittens]

Woops. Sorry DC. I'm explaining my own thoughts and didn't even see your post with you explaining it.

Clearly the only person who I am deeming as town due to my role is DC because he was a target for the mafia N1 and wasn't killed. Which clearly means that DC is part of the town and not the mafia.

[Demon Core]

Woops. Sorry DC. I'm explaining my own thoughts and didn't even see your post with you explaining it.

Oh no, I wasn't taking credit for it. Just saying that I'm not crazy and that there are other people that see what I see.

[Malakittens]

Yeah. Okay, I think it's Charter as the last scum. I have gone through every possibility of connections.

RD didn't even give a reason why Charter was possible scum, but clearly labeled him that in his list.

[Malakittens]

Not last scum, but as one of the last scum members.*

I think it's charter/Evan. Ill explain that in a bit.

[Malakittens]

No links since I'm on my phone.

A sweet play down of Cyber and Evan's ISO.

Cyber rsved Redtail afterwards votes conviction. This reads to me as a common scum play of going into different directions for wagons since Redtail only called out Conviction for the vote.

When Evan replaced in;

309 shows a defense of Bub, who is now confirmed town, this to me can be seen as scum saying after Bub flips town "I told you he was likely town".

328 puts me down as a possible scum read. Links a Bub post, says its Slighty scummy, but is still leaning town.

336 - Asks for a Bub claim- at the time Bub wasn't at L-1.
Questions why people see Buld as town. Wouldn't mind a Buld vote.

337- has a null read on Charter.
Sees Buld as scum. Extends me to a scum read because he has too many scum reads. Looks as he's hunting for town reads along with scum reads, but doesn't explain his other town reads. He then votes RD over the theory of Slandaar-scum.
This vote seemed weak to me. He will support a RD, Mala and Buld wagon.

349- looks like a classic action of "Stop looking at me"! This makes me think he's caring at what people think of him, as he has something to hide. In addition he wants to derail the Bub wagon, but doesn't really push an actual case on any of his scum reads.

vote: Charter

He's at L-1..

I trust DC as town and if Evan hammers Charter, it's a bus on his buddy.

[Demon Core]

RD didn't even give a reason why Charter was possible scum, but clearly labeled him that in his list.

LV also did this to an extent.

[Malakittens]

That's correct. Yah.

[Demon Core]

Alright, I've made my decision.

VOTE: charter

[RichardGHP]

Fifth and Final Vote Count of Day 4

• charter (4)
  : Benmage buldermar Malakittens Demon Core
  
• Benmage (1)
  : charter
  
• Not voting:
  Evanjalin

With 6 alive, it took 4 votes to lynch and to end Day 4. Deadline for this day was in (expired on 2012-11-27 13:00:00).

charter has been lynched on Day 4. He was a

One-Shot Bulletproof Townie

. It is now Night 4. Actions must be received within 48 hours from the time of this post.

[RichardGHP]

Corteleona's already small population had been whittled down to just a few survivors. They woke the next morning to find another two bodies, leaving only three surviving. The good news was that one of them was a member of the Mafia, and both of them had guns. It appeared as if they had shot each other. Now, they knew they had to find the last mafioso among them, or Corteleona would be completely defenseless. It would end one way or the other today.

Demon Core has been killed on Night 4. He was a

Town Vigilante

.
buldermar has also been killed on Night 4. He was a

Mafia Goon

.

It is now Day 5. With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch and to end Day 5. Deadline for this day is in (expired on 2012-12-06 21:00:00).
You are in LyLo.

[Evanjalin]

Woo! Go Demon!

I remember thinking before that Mala had to be town, but I plan to think through it again (especially taking the 1-shot bulletproof into account).

It's late right now though, so I'll do it in the morning.