Bomb Mafia -- Game Over

[SpyreX]

BECAUSE I AM PLAYING LIKE JUNK MAN AND I CANT FOCUS

I don't think there's a "trick" to my power. What it is IS an ace in the hole against shenanigans.

Which is pretty nice. I mean, seriously, once I show the freedom I'll have to get killed DESPITE myself.

Which is almost a win.

[Fate]

SCUM WOULDNT KILL YOU IN A MILLION YEARS.

YOUR ABILITY IS JUST "LOL THATS NICE. GUESS WE CANT DO DAYBOMB SHENANIGANS WHICH REQUIRE US TO CLAIM SCUM ANYWAY"

[SpyreX]

Thats not the important part of it AND YOU KNOW IT MR.

And ben has kicked back a full bottle of crazy this game so I'm not sure where you going with.

I just got paranoid all over again while I was smoking that Hit is scum and Jack's "move" and the beginning was an oops in communication.

[Fate]

BEN IS ALWAYS FUCKING CRAZY AND ALWAYS BLUNT AND ALWAYS WRONG.

"HURRR DURRRR IMMA BOMB TOWN"

ITS JUST A BENCLAIM, NOT A SCUMCLAIM.

POLICY LYNCHES ARE FINE AND I PLAN ON POLICYING THE FUCK OUT OF KATSUKI NS ANTB AND THE REST.

IF HITO IS SCUM HE CAN WIN THIS GAME FOR ALL I CARE.

[SpyreX]

Actually THAT whole side of it gives me more ben-town than not because its so ridiculous.

The progidial son and for all the bluster the raw amount of NOTHING is what makes my eyes raise.

And yea I'm not even pretending to lynch Hito. Just paranoid.

WOOO

[Fate]

WOOO PARANOIA RUNS RAMPANT AS THE SCUM LURKS

AND THE BOMB TICKS

AND THE LEMON SQUEALS

"WHAT IS FATE WHAT IS FATE? I WANT TO KNOW I WANT TO KNOW"

AND

THE CLOCK TICKS ON.

[SpyreX]

When does the bomb go bomb

[hitogoroshi]

Seven and some change days from now. Feb. 15th, 3 AM.

While we're waiting we can pick our favorite lynchin's target. I'm still thinking NS, though I'm curious to see what Fate has brewing on AV.

[Fate]

VALENTINES DAY ALL I WANT IS A HEART THAT WONT BLEED ANYMORE

WHOAWHOAWHOAHOWA

WHOAWHOA

AND THE DAY PRESS ON LIKE CRUSHING WAVES
LIKE MEMORIES OF DYING DAYS

I DONT HATE YOU
BUT I JUST WANT TO SAVE YOU
WHILE THERES SOMETHING LEFT TO SAVE

WHOWAHOWHAHOWAHOWHOAAAA

ONE THOUSAND MILES AWAY
THERES NOTHING LEFT TO SAY
BUT SO MUCH LEFT THAT I DONT KNOW
WE NEVER HAD A CHOICE
THIS WORLD IS TOO MUCH NOISE

I DONT HATE YOUUUUUUUUUUU

I DONT HATE YOU NOOOOOOOOOO

[Fate]

Seven and some change days from now. Feb. 15th, 3 AM.

While we're waiting we can pick our favorite lynchin's target. I'm still thinking NS, though I'm curious to see what Fate has brewing on AV.

THERES NOTHING BREWED. THE TEA IS FINISHED.

HOW MANY LUMPS WILL IT TAKE FOR YOU TO SEE THAT?

OH YEAH I SAID I WAS GONNA DISSECT HIS POSTS.

WELL FUCK HITO, WHY THE HELL DIDNT YOU KEEP UP THE DISNEY LAND TRIP MEME?

[Fate]

Last time when I was scum with AV he was pretty obvscum.

I think blatant rolefishing falls into that category.

Eh, I'm specifically not rolefishing you. I don't care what role you have, and I don't think you should claim it. But you earlier said you had a Bomb related PR and I want to determine whether this post was a joke or not. Ambiguously softclaiming like that as scum lets you (a) revert to a VT claim if you feel it or (b) spend time thinking up a PR claim, and (c) discuss with your buddies which of (a) or (b) you should do. Don't say

what

your power does, just say PR or not. If you hadn't made that "joke(?)" post about being a PR I wouldn't have been all over your grill so much but it sets up too much WIFOM for later.

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Hito, do you think lurking is a scumtell?

I'd 100% lynch NS on a TMH scumflip, but I think Ben is scummier by virtue of what he has posted (as opposed to what NS hasn't posted) so I'd rather see BM hang if TMH is a mislynch. You yourself said we can't afford two mislynches today, and town can lurk just as much as scum.

In either case, I think that instead of Spy using his power today, we solve the above conundrum by getting whoever we decide of those two to L-1 with the person who is being wagoned voting for themselves*. Then the person with the bomb passes the OTHER person of the two the bomb and then hammers. So that IF the bomb goes off over night, it takes out whichever of the two we didn't lynch. If it doesn't, we can decide what to do a'la Spy the next day. Anyone other than the bomb-holder hammering will be considered a scumclaim.

*self-vote is necessary to prevent scum foiling us.


So, for example, NS gets to L-1 with NS on his own wagon, then ??? passes Ben the bomb and hammers - or vice versa.

SCUM.

REEKS OF SCUM PLANNING SINCE HE HAS NO ACTUAL SCUMHUNTING TO DO.

MAKE NO LOGICAL SENSE FROM WHAT I CAN SEE.

WHY WOULD THE PERSON THAT IS BEING WAGONNED HAND THE BOMB OFF AND HAMMER? IN WHAT SITUATION DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DO YOU WANT TO IDEALLY HAVE TWO SCUM DIE? WHY WOULD SCUM TOGETHER KILL EACHOTHER?

AND WHAT IN THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH SPYREX'S ROLE?

DONT ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS SCUMBAG. TRY OUTING YOUR BUDDIES INSTEAD WITH YOUR LAUGHABLE CONTENT.

ALSO LOL "IF IT DOESNT GO OFF WE'LL USE SPYREXS POWER" THERES NO TOWN TRAIN OF THOUGHT IN YOUR PLAN.

NOT EVEN A SINGLE FUCKING SIDE CAR.

YOURE AS BAD AS SCUM AS EVER AV, AND THE REASON I LOST DEFCON MAFIA FOR FUCKS SAKE.

[Fate]

OH I FORGOT THE ACE-KICKER:

Eh, I'm specifically not rolefishing you. I don't care what role you have, and I don't think you should claim it. But you earlier said you had a Bomb related PR and I want to determine whether this post was a joke or not. Ambiguously softclaiming like that as scum lets you (a) revert to a VT claim if you feel it or (b) spend time thinking up a PR claim, and (c) discuss with your buddies which of (a) or (b) you should do. Don't say what your power does, just say PR or not. If you hadn't made that "joke(?)" post about being a PR I wouldn't have been all over your grill so much but it sets up too much WIFOM for later.

I WAS JUST SCUM WITH YOU. WHEN DID I DISCUSS A SINGLE FUCKING THING IN THE QT?
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I WAS JUST SCUM WITH YOU. I PLAN TEN STEPS AHEAD. I DONT NEED TO "STALL" TO MAKE A FUCKING FAKECLAIM.
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DO YOU THINK IM SCUM? YOUR FENCESITTING BULLSHIT IS JUST THAT. THERES NO "FATE IS PROBSCUM! WE MUST MAKE HIM CLAIM LEST HIS ANTICS RUN WILD!"

INSTEAD THERES:
"WELL IF FATE IS SCUM ITS BETTER FOR HIM TO CLAIM DEFINITELY EITHER PR OR VT NOW. THAT WAY HE CANT CHANGE IT LATER ON HURRR DURRRRR. EVEN THOUGH THIS LINE OF THINKING DOESNT MAKE SENSE BECAUSE A)IF FATE IS SCUM THEN B)FATE SHOULD FULLCLAIM AND I SHOULD

NOT

BE FINE WITH SIMPLY A "VT/NOT" CLAIM"

MY GOD IS HE SCUM.

DOES ANYONE NEED THIS CLEARED UP?

HES SAYING "FATE SHOULD CLAIM PR OR NOT IN CASE HES SCUM"

BUT IN THE SAME FUCKING POST SAYING HES FINE WITH ME NOT FULLCLAIMING

SHOULDNT AV WANT ME TO FULLCLAIM IF HE THOUGHT I COULD BE SCUM UNDER THE PREMISE THAT WE ALL MASSCLAIMED TODAY?

NO.

HE DOESNT WANT TO INCUR MY WRATH BY ROLEFISHING, SO HE SAYS THIS MIDDLE GROUND BULLSHIT.


HE IS THE LYNCH TODAY.

NO FUCKING QUESTIONS.

ASKED.

[hitogoroshi]

WELL FUCK HITO, WHY THE HELL DIDNT YOU KEEP UP THE DISNEY LAND TRIP MEME?

I actually wrote something in response, but I immediately felt ashamed and deleted it.

Preview Edit:

Hey, that actually is pretty convincing. And for the record, I kinda-sorta followed along with DEFCON 2, so there's that too. If TMH is a misbomb, I'll join you on AVWAGON2011. Just so long as whichever one of us survives tonight doesn't forget about NS on the morrow.

[Fate]

OH SURPRISE SURPRISE FATE-TOWN FINDS SCUM AND MAKES A CONVINCING CASE.

JESUS HELL MAN. ARE YOU REALLY BASING YOUR OPINION OF ME ON A GAME WHERE I GOT MODKILLED DUE TO BULLSHIT?

[Fate]

P.S.

NO ONE'S EVER GONNA FORGET ABOUT NS. WHICH IS IRONIC CONSIDERING HIS NAME.

ITS SAD HIS PLAY MIMICS HIS PATHETIC OUTLOOK ON LIFE AND SELF-WORTH, BUT HEY IM GETTING TO PERSONAL AND SHOULD PROBABLY STOP.

OR SHOULD I KEEP GOING AND PROD HIS ASS INTO POSTING?

HEY NS, WHY ARE YOU A USELESS SACK?

[hitogoroshi]

JESUS HELL MAN. ARE YOU REALLY BASING YOUR OPINION OF ME ON A GAME WHERE I GOT MODKILLED DUE TO BULLSHIT?

Bwah? No, I brought that game up when you mentioned something in the vein of "able to outwit hito on multiple levels of strategy" in a thread that was not this one. Being modkilled is tripping over the lowest hurdle in the strategy race. You're a better

mafia

player than I am, but that was the miss strategy pageant.

I just wanted to see exactly WHAT all the noise was about with AV because NS is the smiley lurker type that I hateses

[Fate]

D'Awwwwww
>_>
<_<

[RedCoyote]

Going to start looking for a Katsuki replacement. NS is on V/LA until Wednesday, but if he doesn't post after that he'll probably be replaced as well.

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Vote Count 2.11

• Benmage

  (3) (

  StrangerCoug

  - themanhimself - Nobody Special - StrangerCoug)
  
  
  themanhimself
  (1) (

  Fate

  - Katsuki)
  
  
  Katsuki
  (1) (Benmage)
  
  
  AurorusVox
  (1) (Fate)
  
  
  Nobody Special
  (0) (

  Fate

  )
  
  
  Fate
  (0) (

  StrangerCoug

  )
  
  
  Not Voting
  (4) (SpyreX - AurorusVox - hitogoroshi - AntB)
  
  
  
  Bomb possessed by: themanhimself (No Passes Left)

With ten alive, it takes six to lynch.

Current Deadline: Feb. 26th, 2011 at 1:30 AM (CST)

[Katsuki]

Whoa whoa what?...

[RedCoyote]

When I prod you, that means you have to give activity...

[Katsuki]

I believe I sent you with a message as to why the prod was unwarrented. I got no PM in response.

Anyhow no time tonight, give me a day or two to catch up.

[RedCoyote]

If a player receives a prod, they have exactly 24 hours from the time of that prod to show activity before a request for a replacement will be made.

I don't know why you want to be argumentative with me here. All I want is my players to play the game. You said you were going to be V/LA until Sunday/Monday, so I prodded you on Sunday and you didn't post on Monday.

[AurorusVox]

Eh, I'm specifically not rolefishing you. I don't care what role you have, and I don't think you should claim it. But you earlier said you had a Bomb related PR and I want to determine whether this post was a joke or not.

Is it really pro-town either way?

I stick by my position. Fate not

full

claiming is good because it doesn't tell scum how high a priority he is for NKs in relation to the other PRs. But if he doesn't claim at all, he has a gap open for later in the game. I don't like the gap.

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REEKS OF SCUM PLANNING SINCE HE HAS NO ACTUAL SCUMHUNTING TO DO.

"Actual scumhunting" as in, TMH is scum, Ben is scum, NS is scum? I've said all these already. One of them might be SK, there might be 2x2 scumteams. Either way they're the bad guys.

WHY WOULD THE PERSON THAT IS BEING WAGONNED HAND THE BOMB OFF AND HAMMER? IN WHAT SITUATION DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DO YOU WANT TO IDEALLY HAVE TWO SCUM DIE? WHY WOULD SCUM TOGETHER KILL EACHOTHER?

That's not even what I've said you idiot. READ MY POSTS DONT JUST SPAM ALLCAPS LOLOLOL.

The person being wagonned doesn't have the bomb. Let's play it with examples.

1) NS is at L-1 with NS on the wagon. It is important that NS is on the wagon so that he doesn't quickhammer himself as scum and decide who goes into night with the bomb.
2) AV has the bomb. AV passes Ben the bomb and hammers.
3) Ben now has the bomb at night. If the bomb detonates over night we control who has it.

Ben/NS are interchangeable.

AND WHAT IN THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH SPYREX'S ROLE?

Because Spy's role diffuses the bomb - using the above plan as a potentially town controlled night kill > diffusing the bomb to confirm Spy today when he can be confirmed tomorrow.

DONT ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS SCUMBAG. TRY OUTING YOUR BUDDIES INSTEAD WITH YOUR LAUGHABLE CONTENT.

Sorry but I'll respond to your shit ALLCAPSRAGE with logic thanks.

ALSO LOL "IF IT DOESNT GO OFF WE'LL USE SPYREXS POWER" THERES NO TOWN TRAIN OF THOUGHT IN YOUR PLAN.

Why? We can wait to confirm Spy until tomorrow. If he gets confirmed today he'll likely just get killed off.

YOURE AS BAD AS SCUM AS EVER AV, AND THE REASON I LOST DEFCON MAFIA FOR FUCKS SAKE.

Lololol. The reason I got caught in DEFCON was because three posts THAT WERE WRITTEN BY YOU were intercepted that put me in a position of confirmed scum. Kthx.

Also I play townie much better when I'm scum. /shrugs

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Oh, more?

I WAS JUST SCUM WITH YOU. WHEN DID I DISCUSS A SINGLE FUCKING THING IN THE QT?

We discussed things during the night phase. Yep.

I WAS JUST SCUM WITH YOU. I PLAN TEN STEPS AHEAD. I DONT NEED TO "STALL" TO MAKE A FUCKING FAKECLAIM.

In DEFCON we knew what all the roles were. Here scum probably don't have fakeclaims (RC's mod meta), so you'd need to fabricate one as scum.

DO YOU THINK IM SCUM? YOUR FENCESITTING BULLSHIT IS JUST THAT. THERES NO "FATE IS PROBSCUM! WE MUST MAKE HIM CLAIM LEST HIS ANTICS RUN WILD!"

Why does nailing you down as PR/not only work if you're scum? I don't KNOW 100% that you're town. I'm covering my ass for later on

in case

you're scum. If you didn't want this hassle WHY did you make that LOLOLOL I'MA BOMB PR KTHX post?

I don't see why people are okay with this. I see wiggle-room softclaiming and I pursue it.

[Fate]

Why does nailing you down as PR/not only work if you're scum? I don't KNOW 100% that you're town. I'm covering my ass for later on in case you're scum. If you didn't want this hassle WHY did you make that LOLOLOL I'MA BOMB PR KTHX post?

I don't see why people are okay with this. I see wiggle-room softclaiming and I pursue it.

Im not interested in your text walls wars. You're scum and I and everyone else knows it. What is your read on me? OH WAIT, you still don't have one. "covering my ass" IN AND OF ITSELF is a scummy thing to say.

"Well just in case Fate is scum I want him locked in a claim of PR/VT, but I don't want a fullclaim."

IS 1010230103% LESS LIKELY THAN

"I know me trying to force a claim out of Fate when no one is interested in pursuing it would beSCUMMY as fuck, but I want to know what kind of PR he is at the least, so I can deal with him. I'll dress my reasons up in some logic that looks nice and makes me seem concerned townie."

HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

IT ONLY WORKS IF IM SCUM BECAUSE IF IM TOWN THERE SHOULD BE NO NEED. BUT OH YEAH YOU DONT HAVE AREAD BECAUSEIF IM TOWN THEN YOURE ARGUMENT EATS ITSELF WHOLE, AND IF IM SCUM MY ARGUMENT THAT YOU SHOULD WANT ME TO FULLCLAIM STANDS.

SO YOU TOOK THE MIDDLELANE TO SCUMTOWN.

HAVE A NICE DEATH.

[StrangerCoug]

OK, but sticking themanhimself, whom, according to you is town, with the bomb still stands.

Which I've proven I've done as town.

Which noone can sit here and logically think any scum has the balls to pull off something like that....I'd like to think I could, I didn't/haven't ever been that badass. I'm glad you hold me highly enough to think so.

Again, I don't give a damn about your meta. If you want me to reconsider my vote this far away from deadling, I want a town motivation for what you did in your next post. No WIFOM games, no fancy tricks, just why it's protown to kill people you think are town. Because I can think of

EVERY

way it helps scum. What you did makes me less confident of TMH-scum, but in any event, if you are both the same alignment, especially both town, I am going to jump off the Sears Tower.