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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:47 am

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molestargazer wrote:Do you think that all RVS votes have no worth to the rest of the game and are, in effect, pointless?
No, I just meant that it wasn't critical or anything. I had no reason to vote MS other RVS reasons, so seeing my vote miscounted doesn't seem like something to make a big deal about, that's all I was saying.

I think the hydras should have to disclose their account names as a rule, but if no such rule exists *shrug*. I don't rely on meta very much, so it doesn't seem like that big a deal to me.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 5:49 am

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Well lets start lynching this pain in the ass.

unhunt hunt: Generichydra


Obstinant players are anti-town and more often than not, scum. Pulling teeth for easy things is not something I enjoy...next I'll be struggling for rationale with a vote.....no, no, no lets string "th
em"
up now.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:37 am

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And why does it really matter who's behind Genarichydra??
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:55 am

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:And why does it really matter who's behind Genarichydra??
Even without knowledge of why I'd want this information....shit say for meta reasons, or anything you want....there is zero reason to be difficult in this request.
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:57 am

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Wow, my shotgun and trying to understand this conversation is giving me a headache.

Is hydrak and Genarichhydra both hydras?
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 6:58 am

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There is 'zero' reason why they have to tell us this. So why the pressure for it? It has nothing to do with being difficult. Maybe they just don't want to tell us?

Fine with me. It's just a player with DD to me, and not al that scummy besides becuase they won't tell us the names of their alters.

I mean really??

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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:05 am

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Yes, they are both hydras.

Only Hydrak told us who they were in the sign up thread.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:36 am

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Benmage wrote:Obstinant players are anti-town and more often than not, scum. Pulling teeth for easy things is not something I enjoy...next I'll be struggling for rationale with a vote.....no, no, no lets string "th
em"
up now.
Why is not saying who we are anti-town? I do not think anyone has really answered this yet. If you want to pretend that this is just an alt you can do that. If you are looking for meta stuff, this head barely even plays anymore.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 7:59 am

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Okay, I've never even heard of the possibility of this situation in mafia before, and if it has nothing to do with the game set up/play then it shouldn't really matter (don't believe that being unwilling to share identity matters since that should not indicate alliance aside from meta which isn't reliable anyway).
Obstinant players are anti-town and more often than not, scum. Pulling teeth for easy things is not something I enjoy...next I'll be struggling for rationale with a vote.....no, no, no lets string "them" up now.
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Even without knowledge of why I'd want this information....shit say for meta reasons, or anything you want....there is zero reason to be difficult in this request
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fos: benmage[/]

Due to the fact that I'm hoping context has something to do with obstinate players proving to be scummy. They may turn out to be scummy but in context so far, how this was brought up, it doesn't seem so/I have no reason to be intent upon a hunt at this point.
Albeit, it's early in the game and some people are still hunting for random reasons.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:12 am

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:There is 'zero' reason why they have to tell us this. So why the pressure for it? It has nothing to do with being difficult. Maybe they just don't want to tell us?
I just gave meta reasons as a reason…hence greater than zero…Why would they want to hide it?
Midnight's Sorrow wrote: I mean really??

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Great point…*sarcasm*

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Benmage wrote:Obstinant players are anti-town and more often than not, scum. Pulling teeth for easy things is not something I enjoy...next I'll be struggling for rationale with a vote.....no, no, no lets string "th
em"
up now.
1) Why is not saying who we are anti-town? I do not think anyone has really answered this yet. If you 2) want to pretend that this is just an alt you can do that. 3)If you are looking for meta stuff, this head barely even plays anymore.
1) I answer this in the quote, you quote….being obstinate is anti-town/scummy.
2) When I see alts I aim to find out their main.
3) So why do you even care? I don’t think that has been answered yet.

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the rvs is stupid anyways. No reason to delay.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:39 am

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GenericHydra still has to explain why they're withholding their identities.
Benmage wrote:
Midnight's Sorrow wrote:And why does it really matter who's behind Genarichydra??
Even without knowledge of why I'd want this information....shit say for meta reasons, or anything you want....there is zero reason to be difficult in this request.
I think this is quite true, but the original premise for your vote (obstinacy is scummy) seemed weak. Initially, it seemed like you were more interested in attacking the annoying rather than scummy player. For this you seem mildly scummier.

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I didn't quite understand Midnight Sorrow's vote. You seemed to defend Generic but then... voted Benmage? What did Benmage do that
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 8:59 am

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Now that I read the player list again, I would be completely fine with policy lynching BlazezRb, Chronopie, or Midnight's Sorrow. Seriously.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:01 am

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I'm just really confused. GenericHydra is two players playing on one account?

Hunt: Benmage


While I'm confused as hell over the GH situation there's nothing in the rules about him having to disclose any information. But I don't like Benmage using this as trying to get a bandwagon going.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:04 am

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Nero Cain wrote:I'm just really confused. GenericHydra is two players playing on one account?

Hunt: Benmage


While I'm confused as hell over the GH situation there's nothing in the rules about him having to disclose any information. But I don't like Benmage using this as trying to get a bandwagon going.
What is there to be confused about?

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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 9:12 am

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Yes, Nero, they are. It's not an uncommon thing.

Hydrak is also 2 players playing on one account.
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:38 am

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Benmage wrote:
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Chrono is a viable policy. No to sorrow, don't know about Blaze.
If you did... you'd want to policy lynch him even harder than chrono :P
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:42 am

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ReaperCharlie wrote:
Benmage wrote:
@RC
Chrono is a viable policy. No to sorrow, don't know about Blaze.
If you did... you'd want to policy lynch him even harder than chrono :P
Well trust. If shit sucks, shit will get lynched.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:53 am

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ReaperCharlie wrote:Now that I read the player list again, I would be completely fine with policy lynching BlazezRb, Chronopie, or Midnight's Sorrow. Seriously.
I might be fine with a policy on Chrono too. I don't know the other two. But I would hold off on policy for right now. I think that would only be helping scum early if we just tried it at the beginning.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 11:59 am

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I don't understand why I'd make a good policy lynch.

- Significantly more often than not, I'm town (like 85:15)
- I'm usually vanilla
- I have a clear history of being
mislynch
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/meta discussion

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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:05 pm

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Chronopie wrote:- Significantly more often than not, I'm town (like 85:15)
WIFOM
Chronopie wrote:- I'm usually vanilla
WIFOM
Chronopie wrote:- I have a clear history of being
mislynch
bait.
this is your own fault.
Chronopie wrote:I mean, I know I'm not the best
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and you provide yet
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:18 pm

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Benmage wrote:
Midnight's Sorrow wrote:There is 'zero' reason why they have to tell us this. So why the pressure for it? It has nothing to do with being difficult. Maybe they just don't want to tell us?
I just gave meta reasons as a reason…hence greater than zero…
Why would they want to hide it?
I can think of many reasons why they would want to, Meta not withstanding. Plus Meta sucks anyways.

@Hydrak:

It was more a knee-jerk reaction tbqh. It was kinda unnecessary to push something for those reasons.

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0.o Wth did I ever do you to incite that reaction?
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:22 pm

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Midnight's Sorrow wrote:@RC:

0.o Wth did I ever do you to incite that reaction?
:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

you serious?
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:25 pm

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If your talking about Obvscurm. obviously I acted that way so I could get votes so I could use my ability ....:?
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:32 pm

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Can we stop with the RC thing for being ReaperCharlie. I know thats his acronym originally but its kinda confusing for me. Can't we call him Reaper for one game?
Although the border between madness and genius is very narrow.


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Benmage
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Mon Jul 05, 2010 12:36 pm

Post by Benmage »

Sorrow,
I don't think meta alone is fantastic, but I'd at least like the option to do so... what actually bothered me and warranted my vote was that I too could not think of a reason as to why not..and difficult behavior for simple requests is something I want to avoid altogether as a whole.

Here's an all too often example of where my peeve comes in:

Someone votes player A, saying something like buddied, scumslip, agrees with others statements, or some piggybacking nonsense...Then I come in and as for facts...I usually get resistance followed by responses like its in isos, its all there, go read it your self..some more nonsense...when I finally pull enough strings they usually come to the realization that they have no clue why they are voting...sometimes an epiphany occurs and the player becomes a better player learning how to formulate a case...or I catch some piggybacking scum... Either way I hate doing it, its a waste of time and if I can avoid a precedent of being obstinate forming I will do so.

As town we generally don't have a lot at our disposal. Information is our greatest tool and we'll need as much as possible. Resistance in this arena is scummy.

And Reaper can be Reaper now...but you'll have to be robo or copter...cause you as RC will confuse me.
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