tvellalott wrote:Someone smells bad and it’s zipperfish.
After starting the wagon on me, which I didn’t initially find suspicious, I see several little tells within his subsequent posts which indicate he might be scum.
POST #33
“I agree whole heartedly.”
Subtle buddying towards Thor regarding an apparently random bandwagon…
“I get the sense that Finner is a townie trying his hand at scum hunting.”
Overt buddying toward Finner. Finner stated in his answers to his own questions that this was only his second game. In otherwords Finner is a newb. I’ve employed this tactic as scum myself before. Buddy up to a newb and take them all the way through the game.
Part 1 - Buddying with Thor
Yes, when taken out of context, it does seem like I'm buddying up to Thor. What you failed to include in your fail-quote was the the razz simile, indicating I agreed with the "gold, win, and chocolate truffles" aspect of Thor's post. I may have been the first to vote for you, but Thor is the one that started a wagon.
Part 2 - Buddying w/ Finner
I don't think Finner being a newb has anything to do with this, because, yet again, you are taking my words out of context. Thor said Finner was his #2 scumspect, and I was disagreeing with him by saying I felt Finner's posts up to that point made him look townie to me. Stating you feel someone is town and explaining why is not a scum-tell.
POST #37
This entire post is full of buddying towards Finner and disreputing Thor.
I'm not seeing why you feel this post is scummy. I was attacking what I felt was a legitimately scummy move from Thor. If you have a problem with my attack on him, then please detail what it is you have a problem with.
POST #45 & #49
More buddying and semantical arguments.
Again, both of these posts are me wrestling with what I feel was a suspicious move from Thor. I found it odd that by page 2 he had found enough evidence to legitimately have two top scumspects.
POST #64
Despite changing your vote to Subterfuge AFTER my posts and clearly being a very active player , it isn’t until other people have suggested my original posts weren’t helpful that you FOS me. You also subtly buddy Thor here, perhaps to counteract all the fail-disreputing earlier…
This is an outright misrepresentation. I voted for Sub in post #54, your first D1 posts comes at #59 & #60. Thor was completely correct in his post against you. There wasn't anything else I could have said that he hadn't already said, so I FoS'd you to show my willingness to vote you should you continue posting 0 content.
You also have this constant WIFOM thing going where you keep ensuring everyone that “if I was mafia I wouldn’t play like this” (POST #46 for example)
Yeah, I can see post #46 was a mistake. I shouldn't have posted that, but its a general observation I hear all the time. Thor's post reminded me of that, so I responded to him in an offhand manner without realizing the implications of WIFOM. As a rule, playstyle shouldn't be taken into consideration against a player, and that statement from me would be best left alone as its WIFOM.
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In conclusion, I have to wonder if you are using a double standard. Here are some other examples of "buddying up" that you seemingly don't find worth mentioning:
Thor665 wrote:
EI can be town today, good catch on zipper's FOS - that is weird, and he should address it. I might need to shift my vote, but Subterfuge is working hard to keep himself exciting.
roundabout wrote:
zipperfish
comes off as sounding very genuine. I suspect good things of him. "Perhaps I'm reading into his words a bit too much, chasing ghosts if you will," comes really close to sounding suspicious, and if it weren't true I doubt he'd be willing to risk the negative response admitting that his actions could be a shot in the dark might bring.
#67 by Finner could be said to include buddying up with about four people.
I could go on... just a little curious as to why Tvellalot choose me to accuse, when just about every player is guilty of doing the same thing in some form or annother.
Retired GM of Px2 - It's like a book club, but with bullets.
“If Passion drives, let Reason hold the Reins.” - Ben Franklin
You seriously feel a need for an answer to that question?
